Due in June 08 - the rollercoaster continues...

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Morning everyone

Hope you're all OK today

Deb

makecakes I'm glad you mentioned this, because one of the reasons I am so worried is that DD kicks my stomach a lot - when I hold her, when I'm changing her, sometimes quite hard, to the point that it hurts...am hoping that because there is so much protection round the beans they will be okay...? It's very difficult to avoid her

I walked head on into a concrete bollard and my bump took the full force, when I was about 28 weeks last time and the midwife said they are more protected than we think and are quite tough...

Littlewifey so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. When you are ready feel free to join others like yourself on this thread.

Hi to all my old pals. Visited new OB/GYN yesterday and he said get to BDing. It'd be nice to fall again fast (with a healthy bean) because I'm still in the "baby" mindset. What's a two/three month setback on the delivery date anyway .

Josie your DD and my DD have obviously been communicating. Mines been a nightmare for several days. Whacking us upside the head on few occasions during her tantrums. I've an appointment with a new babysitter today so I can "take a break" from the madness too. Hopefully the sitter will be a good one and DH&I can go out on the town Saturday night. Fingers Crossed X.

Miss you guys. I'll keep lurking .

Thanks Josie and gardenangel- mc makes a girl paranoid evidently. Dog is a Jack russell, so only about 6kg, but she puts effort into every bounce. Will have to be more careful in future....

Hi everyone, was on this thread when I got my BFP but then got so nervous that I was imagining my pregnancy (or that something had gone horribly wrong and that there was nothing there... not helped by frantic googling) so decided to stop posting till I'd had a scan and could believe it was real.

Well had my nuchal scan yesterday but like Deb I have to go again. The baby (there was one!!!) was lying in the perfect position for the test but was five days younger than thought (so alas I'm not at the lovely 12 week, sickness is going to vanish, stage) so they couldn't do it. I have to go back again next week but I am only happy about that as it means I get another look at the baby with no extra cost! It was amazing to see (though upsetting when the sonographer pressed hard and the baby went nuts!) as I was so certain there would be nothing there. So I really understand everyone else who isn't believing and is longing for the scan. I wasn't due one till 18 weeks which is actually why I booked the nuchal test (costs about £130 over here). It really seems our thread is in the scanning stage now, can't wait to see everyone's pictures. I didn't get one , hope they're nice and give me one next week. Do you have to ask?

Really, really sad to hear littlewifey's news, one of my best friends went in for her 12 week scan a few weeks back and found out that the baby had died weeks before. Like you she was expecting the worst but I don't think it makes it any easier. She was absolutely devastated. I do hope you are being looked after now, she took a week off work which really helped I think (she's a girl who probably hasn't taken a day off in her life before!). She chose to take the pills, I really hope it happens naturally for you soon though. My friend got her period back a month after the scan and is now trying again. My fingers are very firmly crossed for both of you.

Deb, gorgeous photos. I'm going to Switzerland after Christmas and your beautiful snowy photo made me so excited!

Josey, sorry you're feeling so awful (I hate that burnt throat feeling), hope you feel lots better soon.

And I hope your neighbours pipe down Upsidedowncake. I lived in a basement flat for a few years when I lived in London. A lovely couple lived above but they had an extremely heavy footed (though cute) 3 year old boy who liked to wake nice and early, and then every Thursday the couple had a dinner party that went on till at least three with lots and lots of shouting and laughing and music. It was as if they were in my flat. I used to be in tears every time, screaming at the ceiling till I lost my voice!

Dylansluckymum, so very sorry to hear about your friend but how wonderful you were able to go out there and be with her and tell her how much you love her.
On a lighter note, my sympathies with the spotty skin, I am the same and I just feel so teenage and hormonal. Lingered by the Clearasil aisle the other day and had horrible flashbacks!

Hello to everyone else!

Afternoon all.
Littlewifey - I'm so sorry to hear about your loss, it must have been a horrible shock. I'm sending you lots of happy thoughts - good luck for the future.
Dylan - I'm glad you had the chance to say farewell to your friend properly - I'm sure it would have meant the world to her. When my nana died she was already pretty out of it when I went to say goodbye to her in hosp and I wish she'd been able to understand what I was saying.
Re all the scans. Because I had two early EPU scans at 8 and 10 weeks I may not get my next one till late Jan when I will be 20 weeks, unless I get a quick consultant referral at my booking in on Monday coming.
Once I've got my referral I think I'll be having them fortnightly, but it may be a while until that happens - v frustrating.
But apart from that it all seems to be going well. DH is really taking to the idea now, and I've discovered that he has a "thing" about pregnant women!
I'm slightly dreading telling my new boss when I go back to work on Tuesday but am resolved to just get it out of the way as then I won't have to worry about hiding it any more.
My powers of deception must be better than I thought tho as work gave me a swank bottle of wine as my leaving present and I was convinced some of them had twigged!
Anyway, spa was great yesterday - it turned out the jacuzzis were just areas of the main pools and neither enclosed nor hot, so I was able to enjoy them without worrying, and I slept really well last night thanks to the extra relaxation - think I'll go once a month from now on - it's £20 for a couple of hours, which is pretty reasonable imo - especially as I was probably spending that much a week on wine before I got BFP!
Anyway, have written a novel, so will say ttfn, and have a happy day all

Well I took so long writing my epic that about 50 people wrote in the meantime.

Makecakes, I really sympathise about the kicking. I posted yesterday because my first ultrasound had hurt so much (and tummy was sore the rest of the day) and I'm due for a tummy prod with the doctor today so was worried that all the prodding and soreness couldn't be good but everyone was very reassuring (though of course your question was much more sensible than mine!) and said that the baby is so well protected. Someone wrote something about being told by their doctor that even a fall down a flight of stairs wouldn't hurt the baby (I wouldn't try it but it was comforting!) Would try and get the dog to bounce elsewhere in future though!

har definitely ask for photos - we have to pay £5 for ours though...

Thanks Gardenangel, will do next Friday then. Silly you have to pay I think but absolutely worth it!

China - glad you enjoyed the spa, have been and kjoined our local health club to use the swimming pool, want to keep DD swimming during winter as she loved it in summer.

Only 2 weeks to o until scan

Makecakes and gardenangel, I checked with midwife because dp was worried about ds climbing all over my tummy and she said there is absolutely nothing to worry about. At this stage the baby is protected by thick stomach muscles, tough amniotic sac and fluid, and is still mainly tucked behind the pelvic bones anyway. Dp will not listen to reason and keeps telling me off for letting ds play on me but it put my mind at rest!

system thanks that is very reassuring....

We've just learned that Dh's mom has breast cancer. She has her operation at the University of Chicago on 10 December and dh is going to go over there.

Upsidedowncake - so sorry to hear about your DH's mum. Have they managed to detect it quite early? Your Dh must be pleased that he can be there for her.

We still have an aptly named thread as the rollercoaster continues with it's ups and downs.

Hope everyone else is OK this morning. I'm off for my 2nd attempt at the Nuchal fold scan this morning and have to take ds2 with me. i will get him to sit away from the monitor until the Dr has done his bit then maybe he can come and have a look at the screen.

Sorry to hear that upsidedowncake, sounds good they are treating it quickly. Let us know how it goes - how is your dh handling it?

On scans, appointments and children, I have a consultant's appointment the same week as my 20 week ultrasound in January, both on days ds isn't in nursery, and it's dp's second busiest week of the year at work. He will come if he can but I can't work out what to do with ds - could ask a friend to babysit but it would be an imposition 2 days running and not great days for her. Ds is 15 months. What do the rest of you do with smaller children and dr's appointments? It was easier when he just slept in his pram!

Upsidedowncake I'm so sorry to hear about your MIL. Hopefully she will make a fast recovery.

I often have to take DD2 with me to appointments, at scans she is happy to stand next to the bed and when I speak to the dr she sits on my lap.

I'm sorry about your DH's mother, Upsidedowocake. I hope her op goes well.

Systemsaddict - DD goes to a childminder twice a week so if I have an appointment on those days I'm fine. My scan appointment isn't on one of those days so either:
I will take her with me
DH and I will take her with us; or
DH will stay with her at home and I'll go to the scan on my own.

I haven't yet had to take her with me but not looking forward to it as she is at the stage of racing down corridors like a mad thing!

It's quite awkward isn't it? I too am reluctant to ask people to mind her as she is lovely but quite a handful. DH is self-employed so sometimes I get lucky and it's a day when he has some spare time, but I can't bank on it until the very last minute.

Ds is 24 months but I have taken him to scans and things. He is rather awestruck by the lights and sounds and so on. I also take stuff to eat, books to read and some kind of vehicle ...

My MIL is one of the strongest women I have ever met. She says that dh needn't go out, but my FIL was in tears last night, so I think it's good that he's going.

My MIL is talking in terms of 'this adventure ...', which fits in with your rollercoaster thing, Debs. And dh was saying that it's been a a hell of an autumn, between the ectopic, a fabulous holiday, getting pregnant quickly and now this ... I don't think I'd be so brave as my MIL myself. I really admire her.

upsidedown cake. very sorry to hear about mil. The distance makes it doubly hard

Re small kids & appointments, when I was pg with ds2, ds1 was just 17 months old when he was born, he came to every appointment with me, it was fine. When pg with ds3, ds1&2 were 4 & 3 and they both came to every appointment with me, and again, there was no bother. This time I have the luxury of school for ds 1 & 2 & ds3 is at a childminder 3 mornings a week, so I actually get to go on my own. Of course dh is away, so he doesn't get to come to any.

My next appointment and scan is on Thursday, I keep oscillating between getting the nuchal scan or not, One day I think yes, the next, no. How on earth do I decide. Of course the desire for reassurance is so strong, but it could go the other way, and get a high risk, but then have needless worry, cos high risk doesn't mean 'definate''. otoh, I could get v. low risk, and relax, but then, low risk also doesn't mean definately not.....

Upsidedowncake your MIL sounds like an incrediable person and thoughts are with your family at this time.

Our maternity hospital is being scarily efficient as just had appointment through for 20 week scan and consultant appointment and haven't even had first scan yet.

A quick question about maternity clothes, was skint last time so just got 2 pairs of god awful trousers in bigger sizes from Evans, do you usually buy a size up from what you may be normally?

no, maternity clothes you should buy in your normal pre preg. size

upyisdedowncake, I recently went throught the whole mil cancer thing at a long distance, so I probably understand quite well what you're going through if I can be of any help at all, feel free to cat me, or I can cat you if you want, just let me know. XX

Morning Everyone

Upsidedowncake, so sorry re your MIL my Mum had breast cancer 10 years ago she beat the Ba**d and is fantastic. On a possitive note they can do the operation which means they think they will beat it and its not too late, will be thinking of you it a tough time.

Debs hope you get on ok with your scan today.

On taking DCs to appointments, I take DD if I have to, though I got a booklet with my scan appointment telling me my do's and dont's I was quite F'd off at it really, it not only told me how to p in a cup but it said that children would not be admitted to the scan room so I can hardly leave a 2.3 yo to wander the hospital herself can I. If Dh is still home Thursday my Mum will take her if he is away my neighbour has offered so my Mum can come with me as I dont know this hospital at all.

sophiewd you should buy your normal size in Mat clothes but I always put on extra weight so need bigger mat sizes. I've decided to live in M&S outstanding value jogging bottoms as they are really comfy and very cheap only £9.50, as I don't work I don't need anything smart so they will do!

josey I can't beleive they won't allow children in! I'm sure they do, and just write that to put as many people as possible off.

Before this pg, with my other 3 pg I took either 1 or 2 with me every single time and I didn't get 1 comment in 3 pg. I mean seriously, if you've got no childcare, you've got no choice, what are they going to do, refuse to scan you, or like you said, leave her to wander the corridors unattended? Like goingfor3christmaspuddings said, it's just to put people ff, they surely can't refuse you.