Due in Dec 2007. Enough already, bring on the babies!

[suey2]

hellloooooo?

Squirming? Yes, but also kicking, moving the furniture around (other organs I suppose) and generally being active 23 hrs a day.

I actually shouted "oooh! aaah!" yesterday after a double kick both sides (one baby).

Wow, made it through all the messages since sunday, now can barely remember them - bloody preg head. Thelady - go on hols, you deserve it (nice bump piccy - I'm a nosey moo!) I've not taken enough bump piccys at all. When you guys were talking about nausea yesterday, about 1pm Mon, I'd just been sick,(freaky) 1st time this pregnancy, then almost passed out, felt awful and very woozy, DH took me home (a benefit of us working together) After seeing the doctor this morning he reckoned it was hypertension with the baby moving around trying to engage, felt a bit of a fraud cos I felt ok this morning, but was very scared yesterday as I've been fine (albeit tired) so far. See MW on friday morning to see if baby's moved or is still transverse - I reckon she's not moved as all kicks are down below and tickling my bladder (not fun) Really cannot wait for M/L next friday woohoo!! - Getting treated to a lunch out at work for leaving, that will be really nice. Neuro, hope you got your rest, I know how you feel though, yesterday when I could hardly focus on my screen, I still felt I had to finish off the days orders - I hate passing my work over to others, but balls to it - if you don't normally take the piss with sick days, they cannot whinge when you have a couple of days near the end of your pregnancy.

oooh my milk band came today, feel like it's a step towards breast feeding. I get excited about the simplest things..

WTF is a milk band ???

Enough already of the press-ups under my rib cage! I swear this girl is going to come out walking she's getting so much exercise inside there.

Had my DD's hair cut after school today. She make such a fuss about it, sigh. But looks so much better after with her curly mop.

Oooh, just taken delivery of another load of friends' freeby cast-offs. This time including a bouncinet chair thing which is cool. She also brought back some of the stuff I'd lent her including Avent breast pump and steriliser and baby gym thing-y (looking a bit faded now after passing through 3 families!)

Hi everyone, thanks for the welcome. I'm definitely feeling better, although still a bit queasy.
claraq - i live in Wellington, same as buzzybee, but i'm actually from christchurch. have only been back here since january after years and years in the uk.
claraq, skidaddle, I too am worried about having a bed full of children. both my DS's often turn up in the night and I'm really keen on feeding baby in bed, so that won't work. and they both like to come for a long hug in the morning and it would be dreadful to not let them do that because there was a sleeping baby in with me. I need to work on this...

Morning people!
Hsd a doozy of a nightmare the other day, I was in labour and the baby was breech! It was all going horribly wrong and the docs couldn't decide if I needed a c-section!
I too have an athlete in the making! I'm pretty sure Turtle has engaged, I feel hard kicks just under my ribcage, and strange fidgets at the top of my pelvis which I think is Turtle waving!
Off to the Midwife tomorrow, so will know then!

Morning all,

Hmm I don't have a sore rib or feel kicks up there - I hope my baby's not breech/tranverse..

Hi piglet - glad you made it over here

Ambi - what is a milk band or was that a typo?

Caz10 - at your baldy DH/foreign correspondent
Yes, I feel more squirms that proper movments now - think that is usual once you get to this stage

Shells - Yes sleeping arrangements are beginning to really play on my mind. Do you have any plans about what you will do? I certainly don't want to banish my DD from our bed in the morning as I love early morning cuddles

I had a complete meltdown last night and was sobbing to DH for about an hour . I feel quite terrified that this baby will change my relationship with DD and that she will resent me for bringing a new baby into the equation, and that I could (as books I've read say is common) fall out of love with her a little bit. I just can't bear the thought of that and almost wish I wasn't having another baby at times (but then feel terribly guilty for wishing something so awful on my defenceless little unborn child ). I just feel like what I (and DH) have with DD is so perfect so why are we jeopardizing it? I know I am being ridiculous but it doesn't stop me feeling this way. Do any other 2nd/3rd timers share my irrational thoughts?

macdoodle milk band

skid, pg hormones are evil aren't they, no expert (first timer) but I think it's a perfect rational meltdown, and one I know I'll experience in the future. (I'm currently in the "what if I'm a bad mum?" stage) I reckon these things have a way of working themselves out. of rib kicks from everyone though - had enough of fanjo booting, and everytime it's like LO's saying - I will not turn, I'm gonna be an awkward one (like her mum)

Frightening thought of the lady due on 4th - like me already having her baby It's a bit bloody real isn't it,

Morning all...

Finally slept the whole night last night so very pleased as I cant actually remember the last time I had a full nights sleep.

Has anyone seen Amani, she hasnt been here or Jan thread?

Skid - I am having irrational thoughts as well. Firstly, I am not sure how I can love another child as much as DS and secondly because of the issue with family and all that worried that I will keep this baby to myself too much and then neglect DS and he will hate me. A million and one things really.

DS has for the last two nights been playing up at bedtimes. I had him in a great routine and by 7.30 he would fall asleep in his own room by himself, albeit in his rocking chair rather than bed, but that was the next step. Now he climbs out and comes into the living room. I really wanted him settled before baby gets here. Last two nights he has come to bed with me, which I dont want to get back into for much the same reason as everyone else. Think I am going to have to actually sit with him till he falls asleep.

Anyway - hi to all.

Thanks ambi and MM - still feel irrational and weepy but glad I am not the only one!

MM - we still sit with DD until she falls asleep at night which I am slightly ashamed of as I think people think that we are ridiculous not to have got this sorted yet (and they're probably right!). She has never been good at settling herself (maybe because I use to feed her to sleep when she was a baby? don't know) and she cries if we leave the room when she's still awake. We have tried different things - gradual withdrawal and DH has tried leaving her to cry but nothing has worked (mostly because we give up too soon I think) - so you are not alone.

Re your DS getting up and leaving his room - DD did this too for a while and we had a few awful nights when we just took her back to bed over and over and over again while she cried but she now never ever gets up once she is down. It's painful to do, especially when you're 7 months pg but should be effective if you can bear it

no, haven't seen amani - have you swapped emails with her yet? Maybe you could contact her that way?

We are friends on Facebook so will check that we didnt get round to the numbers thing yet.

Thanks I will try that. I would rather sit with him and him go to sleep at a reasonable time than end up taking him to bed with me as I really need my sleep and he fidgets so much.

Hello, bet you feel like a million dollars for sleeping through MM

Oh Skidaddle, I know how you're feeling I felt so guilty last night thinking, oh god I'm not going to know what hit me when this one comes along, with dd being nearly 8 I forget how much hard work is involved for how long!! And I must admit I thought, opp make the most of the peace and quiet..then felt really guilty, like I didn't really want the lo

Insy - re: Moltex from spirit of nature, they just told me they are out of stock but hopefully just for a few days..its a good rice for them but not if they don't arrive in time! And thanks for the consolation about moving, I don't know how I'm doing it either. Packed up about half a house on my own so far and no help cos dp working 13hrs a day to get new house ready. My back and ribs really hurt from the bending but the house isn't going to pack itself! Guess we'll look back and go - woah how did we DO that??!

Wow ambi that milk band looks organised! I used to just flop out whichever boob felt the fullest

Well have a lovley day everyone, the sun is shining oop north, this is giving me motivation to pack pack pack

Morning everyone,

The sun is shining here as well today, makes everything seem so much better.

Skidaddle, I'm very emotional at the moment as well. Cried to DH last night that we need a new hoover ! (We have an upright Dyson which is about 18 months old but is so noisy it literally gives me a headache everytime I use it and the small Dyson is 8 years old and knackered.)
I haven't really been worrying about how I'll feel towards DD when this baby is born but I feel sad for DD that she will not be the only one anymore. I think it's her age at the moment, she's such a funny wee thing and full of life but hates me cuddling or holding other children. I'm trying to decide if it would be a good idea to get her a wee set for her doll (like a highchair, car seat, changing mat etc) so that she can do things for her dolly when I'm doing them for the baby or if it would just be better to involve her with the baby as well (she can pass me th e nappy, get the baby's coat etc).

Wednesday again! I feel like the weeks pass so quickly at the moment. Aquanatal for me at lunch time then a friend is coming round with her DS (same age as DD). So just making some mini muffins at the moment.

Hope everyone has a great day

lizzer do be careful!
I am sitting at home with some nice packing man working around me. I must confess to being a little weirded out by the whole experience- at least i got to go out and have my 2nd last brazilian before due date- next time i go will be 39 weeks!

i know just what everybody means about added emotional-ness at the moment. i seem to be okay during the day but by bedtime i'm often distraught. last night's topic was dh driving on his own for the first time (only passed his test in the summer) to family business outpost in north yorkshire. was hysterical, begging him not to go. ridiculous.

Morning all, grey day here today .
Skidaddle I feel guilty sometimes about changing the family dynamic too. I want to take my DSs to the cinema on Friday and realised I won't be able to do that once LO is here, in fact we won't be able to do that as a family anymore once LO is here.
Lizzer, you are brave for moving so close to LO's arrival - don't over do it! DH was making noises about moving earlier in the year (despite the fact we have almost finished this house after 5 years!) but I put a ban on that as soon as I found out I was expecting! Thankfully he has now built a huge shed/workshop in the garden so we will not be moving in the foreseeable future!
Thelady, I meant to say to you before not to worry too much about the size of the baby from the scan. Both my DSs were born on the 90th percentile and they were relatively easy and straightforward births (and I am a small-framed girl). I am sure you will be fine.
Has anyone else tried measuring their own bump the way the MWs do? I was supposed to have an appt today (but there were none free grr...) and measured myself just out of interest - I seem to be coming up at 33 cm (will be 31 weeks tomorrow) ! Am hoping I have just got it a bit wrong although at just under 28 weeks I was measuring just over 29... I measured from the top of my pelvic bone thing up to the top of the bump.

Morning everyone, quick message as have rampaging child getting into everything around my feet...

Skidaddle - I blame that wretched book for how you are feeling at the moment I finally finished it the other day and wished I had never read it!!! You won't necessarily fall out of love with dd, but at least if your feelings do change for a while you know it is normal and things will get easier as time goes on. That's how I'm trying to think about it anyway!
Btw yes I think we are the same person. In which case it's your turn to clean the kitchen floor

Suey2 - can't believe you are having a Brazilian!! My skin is so much more sensitive at this point of pregnancy I couldn't even cope with a normal wax. have never been brave enough for a Brazilian, just seems a little undignified. (Mind you - can't be much worse than childbirth...).

Beckle - first time they measured me I was measuring a couple of cm's big; the 2nd time I was under - will see what they say this afternoon but it all sounds a bit vague to me. I reckon they are just checking that you are not enormous or tiny.

Insy I just had a neck, shoulder and back massage. I leant over on a pillow to start then lay on my side on the massage bed. Not quite as relaxing as a regular one (not quite as comfortable) but pretty good!
I know they say to be careful about things like foot massages as reflexology sometimes used to bring on labour - but surely mani/pedi would be OK?! And I definitely want to get an eyelash tint and brow shape done...

Hello everyone, hope you are all ok
Ds has just gone out for a few hours with mil so i've got a few spare hours, he will be back about 4.
Now should i go and sort out the cupboard upstairs thats full of bags of stuff from when we moved, or sit down with a cuppa and have a nice relaxing day??

Buzzybee - A massage sounds lovely. I was supposed to go a couple of weeks ago with my cousin for a pamper day but we had to cancel as she wasnt well, im hoping to re-arrange and have one soon though.

Suey - Cant believe you are getting brazilians done, i'd quite like to get waxed but dont think i could stand the pain

Am sure a mani/pedi would be fine Buzzy, just be careful about having your feet massaged! TBH I would love to be pampered a bit at the moment - am not feeling my best looks wise! Was thinking of having my hair coloured but my hairdresser will be on Mat Leave by now and don't know if I trust anyone else to do it!
Claraq, I think you are right about the measurements. They were not particularly worried at the last appt, they just looked at my notes and saw that the DSs were quite big and said looks like another big one. Just hope it is not too big, have heard lots of stories of third babies being much larger than previous ones!

Feeling quite tired still today, not sure the iron tablets have quite taken effect yet although they are definitely affecting my stomach! Also feel crampy today in my lower tum and back - anyone else? Feel like an 80 year old woman today!

yes, the lower belly ache is quite difficult- i get it after i have been walking for about 10 minutes. Quite fancy a big one cup bra for the bump! Maybe i will nick the wiltshire belt from work- we trial tested pregnancy belts at the practice a couple of weeks ago- and, OMG, this was sooooo comfortable. Ithink the serola is prob good early, but this was amazing- i would thoroughly recommend it for the SPD sufferers.
Think i will nick the tens, too- although i do tend to respond to heat more- we have these stick on patches which stay hot for 8 hours- used to use them for bad period pain and they were brilliant. Robinsons heat pads- you can get them from boots- may be worth it for the hospital bag