Due in Dec 2007. Enough already, bring on the babies!

[suey2]

hellloooooo?

I swapped 'wildness' for total sensibility. Been there, done that. Unlike a lot of my friends. Don't think that many will settle down and i kind of worry about them, but it's their lives...think they'll just miss out though on doing the family thing and will regret it.

Each to their own

Yes it is strange how we form opinions of people just by reading their posting.

lol at skid dream.

Yes I am MixedMama still coming to London. Can't bloody wait either. Going to have a reunion with some old friends and see my sisters and ex step sister. Really excited. Plus all the Christmas lights will be on won't they?

Actually i want to have a couple of really good facials. I usually have Guinot ones, but would love to go and get something equally effective but bit different. Oh and i want to get my eyebrows done with a piece of cotton. London ladies - any pampering tips please on where to go as I ought to book in the next week.

I've cheered up a bit at the thought of some serious pampering as i had to cutback this year on facials due to working less and i really miss them

neuro - just got back from mw app and she wrote hb count on my notes (assuming we all have the same green notes) mines 12.3 same as at 10 wks - yours might be on there?

I also have a lot of friends like you - we're the first ones to have children and even though I was 24 when we started trying for ds it took us well over a year - I worry sometimes about friends who say how much they want kids and there is plenty of time but I know some of them might not ever get round to it and like you say regret it

suey - didn't imagine you sounding scottish - would be really interesting to meet everyone wouldn't it

I get my eyebrows threaded fab. Are we still going to meet up with Beller.

Re: grandmothers - when you get hold of an interesting oldie, they are a brilliant wealth of information. I found more about (2nd World) war times and what went on from my granny than any book or tv prog. She told me about how awful it was all these young men she'd been at school with never made it home. The man she'd been in love with had died in the war. I knwo she loved my grandpa but he wasn't her big love. And hearing about how exotic the american GIs seemed. Not to mention all the scandalous things that went on behind closed doors. And the Italian ice cream man that came door to door in summer.

It's fascinating hearing about it all.

Of course there are the bad old people too, and there are a huge number of extremely rude ones that live in my area. They are wealthy and old and so ill mannered. AND they barge past me, obviously pregnant, in the local m and S store.

Neruo - it's called threading (where you get your eyebrows done with cotton thread) and it's brilliant and quick.

I shall inspect my notes when i get home. My latest HB count won't be on there though.

MM i'd love to meet up with whoever can meet up!

Skidd - blimey, have just caught up and reached your latest message - I really hope I won't be posting about my escapades with terrorists and bodyguards but I have to admit it has been praying on my mind a little these past few days as well .

Have been chuckling at all the poo-related stories, both in relation to child-birth and our toddlers. My DH is obsessed with poo (I think men tend to be) whereas I don't think it is something to discuss in public. Until you have a baby that is!!

Claireybee - my dd also won't let DH change her nappy. She'll play with him endlessly all day when he's at home, telling me to "go away mummy", until she fills her nappy and then suddenly it's "mummy do it" (often with the help of some random toy like her doll or Postman Pat).

Neuro - hope you get the rest you need. If it makes you feel any better, I am totally exhausted too and my iron levels are apparently really good. I think late pregnancy is just exhausting so with low iron levels too you really do need to take it easy.

34+2 today - or to put it another way 5 weeks and 5 days until due date.....

where can i get my eyebrows threaded in London? i'll be staying in Fins. Park area.

Skidd - what was I like in your dream btw (as we are talking about our impressions of each other).

Green lanes in Haringey....failing that come to walthamstow.

Neuro - I agree with you about old people, they can be so interesting, a living history lesson. I will never forget my great grandfather telling me how he saw Queen Vistoria once! (he was born in the 19th century...). But on the other hand there are some horrible snobby and downright unfriendly old folk round here too - they live in these massive mansions and look down on mums like me who dare to push my buggy into shops.....

Neuro - at your boss - take the rest of the week off! You are growing a baby and that is a more important job by far than any other! Have you spoken to docs about your breathlessness?

My LO definitely has sharp elbows/knees and often makes me gasp as s/he turns over. Is not really settled in one position enough yet though for me to have developed any tender spots although s/he does seem to have it down to 3 fave positions to be in now! (1 Back to back,feet down, head up and sticking out of my ribs 2 Back to front, sideways with bottom poking out on the left of my belly button 3 back to back, head down and feet in right hand side of my ribs)
Doesn't say much for my stomach muscles though that I can't often feel it when baby does a complete turn - sounds quite uncomfortable when some of you guys describe it!

sorry neuro, don't know. Have no hair. My indian pal swears by the lady at harrods urban retreat if that's any good to you?

Where is thelady? Last we heard of her she sounded like she was going into pre-eclampsia- i hope she is ok.

Must get on and do that cat thing- how shall we allocate who our text buddy is? I think i agree that it should be someone not too near our own due date

I agree that some old people are lovely and fascinating (my Gran was) whereas others are very rude! I have often had to take my buggy onto the road when a couple of ladies have been walking side-by-side along the path and I've needed to get past. If you say excuse me you just get tutted at like you have no respect for your elders! I find though that groups of teens are just as bad for thinking they own the pavement and in general people are not very helpful when you have a buggy.

neuro- i had a clarins 'mother-to-be' (for some reason that phrase makes my skin crawl) treatment at our local clarins place a couple of weeks ago. Utterly fantastic. Dunno where's good in london though, but that particular treatment was amazing- massage and facial in one- looked like i'd had an extra night's sleep for several days. i spent the last bit of the treatment working out how many i could decently squeeze in before 18th december!

Claraq- how amazing that your grand-dad saw Queen Vic - the most famous person/people I saw were.....urm Anthea Turner and Boyzone when my friend won a competition on GMTV

Suey2 - I'll have my mob on me all the time (other than the labouring bit). I'll want to be in touch with DD while I'm in hospital.

i think we should just CAT whoever we feel comfy with .... I would say one or two peeps each just to be on the safe side.

tbh i dont know if i could lie down for long enough to have a facial without feeling sick/ getting heartburn. have only had 2 facials in my life- one was at blisslondon which was awesome but heinously expensive

Neuro that's lovely you have such a good relationship with your grandma-I have to confess I'm not very good with old people alhtough i do find their stories facinating! Think its when they start losing their marbles that i don't cope very well.

I would be completely gutted if my children didn't make me a grandma one day-I'll probably be the mum asking when they are going to settle down every 5 minutes from when they turn 18!

Out of my close friends only 2 of us have children. The other one with a child has a dd a year older than my dd and is a fantastic mum, although still a party animal (where she gets the energy from i don't know!). Another couple are getting married next year and are planning a honeymoon baby but the rest of them are still acting the same way as when we were students which i find wierd cos for me so much has happened since then, but do sometimes get jealous!

What I find saddest though, is that one of my friends is absolutely desperate to get married and have children but hasn't had a significant other since we were 18. Must be so hard for her wanting it so badly...

Spending far too much time on mn today!

Oh yes forgot to add, I also have that painful patch under my (right) rib, although that vies for most painful bodypart status with my aching back at the moment....

forgot to say for anyone interested in home birth, mw didn't tell me much I haven't read except even though I've said I'd like to give birth in living room, get a matress protector as well in case I change my mind (will only do that if ds isn't around as our house isn't that big and people tramping past his door will disturb him)

need:
plastic sheeting
warm old towels for baby (hadn't considered this!)
bucket to be sick in (if necessary - was v sick last time, she'll bring yellow plastic bag for taking away all other waste)
old towels and sheets to lie on
biscuits and tea for midwife she even suggested a bacon sandwich

and a little basket or box with babies things in which is easily to hand, ie one nappy, vest and baby grow just so dh doesn't have to go running upstairs to dig them out

think that was everything - she was very laid back about it all

clairybee - my friend gets frustrated with her mum asking when is she going to be a granny, she's the youngest of 4 with no significant other, she says its not fair because up to the age of 23 they were telling her to concentrate on her studies, get good degree etc and now they want her to have found the perfect bloke and have babies...