The babies are here! September 2020

[LatteLover12]

Hi all 👋🏻

Here's a new thread so we can keep chatting through the sleepless nights and the many outfits they've already grown out of... 😄

Thanks @LatteLover12 I’ll get the Annabel Karmel one as well and give it a shot.
I’m with you on sleep rage, we’re bottle feeding and I still do all the feeds anyway. I got cross the other day because he claimed he’d been up all night worrying about a work thing and I said if that was true he could have given me a night off while he was up anyway. He looked pretty asleep to me during the night feeds 🤔. Definitely us ladies are made of tough stuff!

He’s just moving out of the 1month as well. Excited for the wardrobe switch up. With him being small he wears stuff long enough for me to get bored which is good news for the use I get out of it I guess.

@ShiningStarz as he starts to grow out of each size I’ve Had a few days where I put him in the gifted outfits that he hasn’t had chance to wear either because they’re too formal or because my mum bought him loads of little romper suits with shorts and it’s not been the weather for that! Means at least I can send thank you photos so they can see how cute he is.
In honesty I haven’t read the Joe Wicks book yet. I like his adult food because I’m a lazy chef and food in under half hour appeals which is why I thought I’d give it a shot. My SIL really likes it I think. The sample of the Ella’s kitchen purple book looked good though. If you register on their website they send you a little booklet, a weaning chart and some vouchers for their stuff if you wanted to try the ready made option as well. Obviously it’s advertising for them but I quite liked the things they sent out.

@Sara7455 that's great to know thanks. I'll register on ellas website :)

I'm pretty lucky with DP. He stays up until 1am with her and brings her to me. I try and go up at 10 which means I get 3hrs straight sleep. Really helps. Maybe that could be an option for you?

Iv been doing the same re. Thank you photos! I just hope I get the right person to thanks with the outfits :) hoping my photographic memory doesn't fail me 😂

@Sara7455 I know, they make you think it’ll last and it doesn’t lol. He had one night last week 5 hours then the next night every 2/3 hrs lol. This is 2 nights running though and it feels amazing aha.

@ShiningStarz it will happen with your little one one night and believe me you will feel like a new woman lol. Fingers crossed it’s soon for everyone!

@LatteLover12 we’ve formula fed from the get go. Husband has done zero night feeds as he doesn’t hear baby cry. I have tested this and put LO next to his head whilst screaming and DH doesn’t flinch just carries on snoring so yes I feel your rage 😂

@Lorna198 - two nights in a row sounds brilliant. Hopefully this is his routine for a little while now. You just feel so much better for that little bit more sleep! Love your test to see if DH hears the baby in the night 😂. Don’t think mine does either, he’ll wake up sometimes and say “oh he was good last night wasn’t he?” And I’ll have barely slept a wink. Quite the skill!

Omg @Lorna198 how can he not hear little one 😂😂😂😂

My DP sleeps in the spare room!! I reckon he would still hear her from there !! Iv already said I want him to take her all night next sat, I get the extra hour with the clocks changing!!!!

Anyone post c section feel like they've been hit by a bus!! Iv walked more than usual this past week, maybe 5 mile walks with DP and baby. Ever since my body has been sore, scar area and where it's numb extra sensitive almost like Iv worked my tummy muscles for the first time! Even turning in bed so sore. Iv my 6 week post

Post natal Check next week. Look forward to get signed off for driving and for maybe jogging. I really need to stop eating crap!!! Biscuits and cake and endless cups of tea!!!!

@MooseWL thanks for setting the facebook group up, I've sent a request to join. I don't post pictures of my kids online but facebook is so much easier for chatting!

Hi all, have been a bit absent because of the crazy first two weeks. Have requested to join the fb group, thanks @MooseWL for setting it up.
Our boy has no routine at all. We just seem to live hour by hour and haven’t achieved very much other than baby care. So glad I did some freezer meals in advance! He’s usually going about two hours between feeds but last night he managed to sleep for four whole hours non-stop! Nice to know they can sleep for longer, as a nice balance to the ridiculous cluster feeds.
Happy to be discharged from the midwives on day 10 as he was nearly back at his birth weight. Helped to reassure me that the breastfeeding is going ok. Have got the health visitor coming over tomorrow - what exactly is it that they do?!

Thanks ladies you are right he's just a tiny baby and probably doesn't even know to be alarmed at a mask - I'm probably just being precious!

Omg @LatteLover12 my partner drives me nuts with this. I'm fine with him sleeping as I am EBF anyway but my god he gives me the rage when I'm exhausted the next day and he's like "Oh I'm so tired too I don't get a deep sleep with all the noise in the night" When he has been SNORING next to us for 8 hours. Deep sleep my arse. If he didn't take him downstairs for a couple hours in the morning so I could get some rest I would throttle him

@ShiningStarz I'm 4 weeks post C-section and generally at home I feel ok but if I go out for a walk it feels like I've run a marathon. Have just been going out with the buggy every other day and I have to stop every so often to rest - and end up taking painkillers for my back in the evening. On days I don't go out I'm fine but I want to build my strength back up I feel like an 80 year old woman at the moment. I still get twinges too like I did when my womb was contracting/shrinking I don't know if that's normal or not still at this stage?

So pleased it's not just me @flameprincess 😂

@Lorna198 that's unbelievable! How do they do it? Honestly, my DP appears to be able to sleep through any noise too. I might have started switching on unnecessary lights...

@ShiningStarz I'm 4 weeks post section and I've had a nightmare recovery & got prescribed antibiotics on Friday too. I'm still achy, my bleeding comes and goes, I've got nerve pain across my tummy and my scar has still not healed!! I'm so sick of it.

@MooseWL sent a request to join the Facebook group. Thanks for making one.
Hi ladies, catching up on the conversation. So jealous of everyone whose baby is sleeping 4 or 5 hours, my lil man only lets me have 2 or 3 hours a night. He breastfeeds so hard at night, it makes me feel sooo hungry. Sometimes I'd go downstairs at 4 or 5am for breakfast because I'm starving. Seriously waiting for the longer sleeps. The HV came 2days ago for the 6-8wk check and he is nearly 5kg now, makes me so glad that all the nighttime cluster feeding is not in vain.

Am I the only one who's little one still won't sleep on her own?! We're breastfeeding but she still wont sleep in her crib but only on us. It's starting to get frustrating now. Feel like we've tried everything but and suggestions welcome. Only things are she is still on 3 weeks so still so young and I'm on antibiotics which seem to be upsetting her. Should I continue with the sleeping on chest or let her cry it out and self settle?!?! I know about the fourth trimester and how much they need us but I also really need sleep!!!

Hello! How is everyone? I'm finding time is flying, I want it to slow down so I can soak up every second of my last newborn!

Update our end. Last weighed at 5 weeks and was 12lbs 7 🐷 now 6 weeks and still eating like me on a hangover 🤣. He's started to do some longer stretches at night (3.5 hours a couple of times 4 hours) but in general still feeding every 2/3 hours which I expect for the time being. He's still having awful diarrhoea but much better now I've cut out diary and gluten. Got a paeds app in Nov to discuss more and check it's not a digestive issue.

I'm still pumping only. It's working ok for now and my Elvie pump although expensive has changed the game for me. So much easier and I can get stuff done like wash up or do my skincare/ make up at same time as well as cuddle Ed, change his nappy, feed him etc.

He's sleeping next to me ina sleepyhead. I know they're not meant to but he won't settle in his snuzpod yet and I have to sleep! Going to try snuz pod again this week now his tummy is more settled.

@WillowT have you tried her sleeping next to you in the bed? Co sleeping is very safe when do correctly and I did it with my first two as they were the same.

@ChipsAreLife co sleeping terrifies me as my DH. We both move a lot when sleeping and DH is a particularly deep sleeper that he might forget she's with us.

@WillowT I know it's so awful when they refuse to settle but 3 weeks would be too young for the CIO method - they are just too little to understand/self soothe. I remember doing this with DS1 and didn't attempt it till he was 6 months old and it was horrific then! (but kind of worked on day 3)

Is there anywhere she does sleep in the day at all so you can modify her night time? DS2 decided at 1 week after being fine in his Next 2 me that he hated it - so we've had to put his bassinet inside as he will sleep in that. Near early morning though he will then decide he hates this too so I do crack and let him in bed with us for a couple hours. That being said I am VERY aware he is there and sleep lightly so no risk of moving around, but the light broken sleep is better that nothing. Is there anywhere your DH could sleep for a few days emg settee just so you could try the co-sleeping to get some rest? It needn't be permanent but sounds like you need something at least in the interim and may be your gateway to getting her to not sleep in your arms only. Perhaps try in the day when there is less pressure?

Can I ask everyone a question re:nappies? Is anyone planning on trying reusables or have used them before? I didn't with DS1 but really want to with DS2, however at the moment he must need changing anything between 8-12 times a day. He pretty much poops every time I feed him. We are also having a nightmare with his nappies soaking through after 2-3 hours if he's not changed (think we need to size up am trying this tomorrow).

With that many nappies a day I'm not sure when to introduce cloth and how long each cloth would last? I did read online BF babies are meant to poop less but this doesn't apply in the early days so may need to just wait till his bowels settle down. I have a little lamb nappy I did experiment with last night but he soaked it in wee within an hour and that was with extra liners! I thought the point of them was that you only had to change the liner for a few changes not the entire thing?

I have joined the cloth nappy group on FB to ask this there too I was just wondering if anyone here was in the know.

@LatteLover12 @flameprincess i was walking downhill yesterday and tried a little faster walk into a jog for about 5 seconds and yep it was uncomfortable like my insides were jiggling!! Definitely think it takes the full 12 weeks minimum to heal xx

@flameprincess thanks! I know she is too young for cry it out method but just putting all options on the table

She sleeps in her pram and car seat but neither of these are suitable for overnight and when she's in them I obviously can't sleep! She slept a while in her Moses basket but now refuses that too 🙄 I think I'm going to have to put my big girl pants on and try co-sleeping

Sorry for the ranting, I just need to vent somewhere. I love her to pieces but really need her to sleep off me!

@flameprincess we are going to use reusables full time but when he's big enough for the birth to potty. I've got a few newborn ones to try so have been doing a couple of reusables a day until then - I'm horrified by the amount of waste that disposables create!
I've done a lot of research on them and there are lots of different types and it's getting a combo that works for you.
You do have to change the whole thing every time not just the liner, unless you're using a 2 parter in which case you don't have to change the outer wrap unless it's wet - what type are you using?
Have a read on the nappy lady for general advice.
As J has quite skinny legs at the moment (he's putting all his energy into length not insulation by the looks of things!) even some of the newborn nappies I have so far are too big.

I think it's going to be trial and error until you find a brand that works for you and your baby for absorbancy but that's more for wees as you still need to change after every poo. It might be worth waiting until they poo less, or mixing if your LO is pooing a lot!

@WillowT don’t apologise for ranting. You poor thing I don’t blame you if you’re not getting a lot of sleep. It sounds like co-sleeping might be worth a shot - I guess you’ve already tried making sure her bed is warm and smells of you etc?
Sorry I’ve not got a lot of advice just sending love. Each phase feels like a lifetime but it won’t last forever.

Morning early crew!

@WillowT DS will be 5 weeks on Wednesday and he still only sleeps on me. I kind of expected it because my older boy was the same but it doesn't make it any easier! We're just starting to be able to have him next to us rather than on top of my chest like a koala but it's hit and miss.

I just keep telling myself it's not forever (the 8yo defo sleeps in his own bed!) It's exhausting though and I'm sure it's contributing to my scar woes.

Thanks @Sara7455 ... we've tried everything it feels like!
Thanks @LatteLover12 good to know I'm not the only one...I don't know why but I feel everyone else's baby is sleeping in several hour blocks on their own and mine isn't and I'm failing. I think its just the tiredness talking as when I'm not tired I feel like a different person and not a failure!