Due in December 07 - look at that bump!

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Morning all,
Like the new name Abmerooni - although I didn't think your original one was too too similar!!!

Bouncingturtle - I have a large rash on my left arm and a smaller one on my right arm. Not so much itchy, but it's noticeable. Got m/w appointment this morning so will ask her then. Got my bloods - better remind m/w that I pass out everytime it's done!

morning

good luck at m/w app Amani (especially hoping you don't pass out!)

am not good at all today - have a stack of work that if I get through quick I'm going home... head is full of cold, ds was up throughout the night and fast asleep when I left for work v
def feel like I have sand in my eyes so can identify with who ever said that yesterday and also feel slightly sick, not sure were thats come from but washing up last night made me retch just like when I had morning sickness... it can't come back can it? I though it was just a beginning of pg thing? its prob just because I'm ill and sleep deprived

Good morning everyone.
Skiddaddle (I just re-read the last few posts and saw yours about seeing little Hitlers in the hedge; are you sure you haven't been taking LSD?!): the reason we thought our dd was breech because I had an extra scan at about 28 weeks. She was breech then and I didn't notice any great change from then on to the way she was lying. My DH is now an "expert" and is convinced this one is breech as well but so far I have always been told it is head down. The reason the midwife wasn't sure with dd was because her head (up underneath my ribs) apparently felt like a bum. I have had the same thing a couple of times this time so now am definitely going to insist on extra scan when I go to the see the consultant at 36 weeks.
Personally I know so many cases of a breech baby not being caught until the mum is in labour that I think a scan at 36 weeks should be standard. If you are in any doubt at all, ask for one. Better to know in advance so you can either try and get it turned or book in for an elective - much better than an emergency!

Inisy - I think sickness can come back later in pregnancy and I think tiredness can make it worse. I was up at 4am this morning raiding the biscuit tin as I was feeling sick and hungry (as well as achey and crappy in one hundred other ways!), which was very similar to early pregnancy. I laid there afterwards nearly in tears thinking how can I get through the next 7-9 weeks feeling like this?

HUMMM I am NOT going to the midwife this afternoon as my bike has a puncture. GRRRHHHHH. I am going next week whihc is even more of a nightmare because of parent's eveing - anyway....

feeling sick too- put it down to not having much space in my belly but still eating the same size portions!
Much better today- a good night's sleep has done wonders. REally cannot lie on my back anymore even to read for 10 mins though.
Trying to resist buying winter coat- DH has offered to lend me his flasher's mac so will see how it goes. I looked bloody ridiculous today with my mac fixed with one button!

feeling sick too- put it down to not having much space in my belly but still eating the same size portions!
Much better today- a good night's sleep has done wonders. REally cannot lie on my back anymore even to read for 10 mins though.
Trying to resist buying winter coat- DH has offered to lend me his flasher's mac so will see how it goes. I looked bloody ridiculous today with my mac fixed with one button!

sorry you can't get to appoint cazzy

claraq - hope sickness isn't homone related, 7 and half weeks left at work so need to keep going for a bit longer yet, going to ask mum to have ds over night if still not better at end of week so I can get sleep and feel better
good luck getting your extra scan, sounds like you have a good case for one seeing as dd was breech

Am back from m/w.

Everything ok -love hearing the heartbeat again! Thankfully didin't pass out, but felt mega dizzy after the bloods so rested before making my way back to work.

Showed m/w the weird patches on my arms and she took additional blood samples as she said it might be cholestasis which is somehow connected to the liver ???? (need to read up on it)

Asked about Group B Steps testing as I had it in my previous pregnancy and since neither my baby or I were given antibiotics during or after labour I am not going to be tested for it.

insywinsy - defo go home and rest hun!

Hellooo helloooo

Winter coats Neuro (possibly) useless tip - Sainsburys have got either 25 or 35% off their clothes range at the mo. Or they did recently. Anyway, I bought a little swing, slightly A line jacket (it's very Jackie O dahlings) which looks smart for work, is a lovely teal colour and has 3/4 length sleeves. It covers my most of my bump and due to the cut is v v comfy and non restrictive. I love it as i'd imagine like most preggy ladies i get hot on my walk to and from work, so having air on my wrists and getting some air up under my jacket via the bump makes it kind of airtex. Anyway, it was only 35 pounds and everyone has admired it. NOT saying everyone has to go out and get one, but for you Tube ladies especially it's ace. Also it's a wool mix so warm enough for chilly days but not overly warm and despite me folding it up and ramming into handbag doesn't appear to crease. I love it.

Oh dear an entire paragraph about a jacket.

La la la!

And glad your MW appointment was good Amani. Hearing the heartbeat is so cool.
Bad luck Cazzy - can't you play damsel in distress and get someone to fix your tyre for you? Come on make BIG EYES at someone!

Also, I feel enormous! I am with you Suey on still eating normal sized meals. It's like my brain goes on override. I remind myself i don't have the space for a proper meal, but...I want to eat it all.

The baby downstairs was left to cry from 4.30am until 7.30am today. This happens 5 nights out of 7. Whilst i don't think the parents are abusing it, I feel it is being abused by lack of care.

I dunno. Every time i mention it to someone they sort of patronise me as if just because I am having a baby, i see myself as Baby Police or something. But this child is really distressed. I can hear it's poor little vocal chords going. The first thing i heard its father say was 'shut up'. Found it quite upsetting. Not sure what to do. Would any mums on here be able to leave their child crying hysterically for 3 1/2 hours?

thanks for the jacket info neuro! that definitely sounds tempting.

I only popped in there to get some coriander and came out with a jacket. Was quite impressed with a lot of it.

Neuro, OMG that's awful about the baby. I'm all for trying to get a baby into a routine but leaving it to cry for hours?! . I wouldn't dare do that, to me it goes against common sense if the poor thing won't settle for that long. Even if you think its good for the baby, it sure ain't good for the neighbours and for that reason alone I wouldn't do it.

Are you sure they're ignoring the poor thing, or could there be something really wrong with it?

Amani - as you had it before, surprised they won't test? Just because you were both OK last time doesn't mean it's not a real concern - I asked my MW and was tested (negative - hooray!) - it was a DIY job though - she filled in a packet, and sent me away with what looked like an oversize cottonbud in a sterile tube - basically, stick it up your fanjo to swab, seal it up (the stick in the tube, obviously, not your fanjo...), put the date on and hand it in at the docs.

If she is really insistent you can't be tested you can get private tests but they cost around £40 - try gbss.org.uk I think is the website

Neuro - are you sure Claire Verity isn't downstairs from you??!!

SAD has kicked in today - DD waking up saying yeuky day Mummy - it's not sunny jsut about summed it up. That and having to get my DH's old ski jacket out (which is too big for him!!) really maeks it feel like winter on the way. I've been humming and ahhing (??) over the winter coat bit - object to paying out for a maternity one - even if I could find one - but need soemthing. Poncho tastic me thinks may be the way to go.

Saw my boss yesterday and have brought forward my leaving date - next Friday just couldn't go until 2nd Nov and feel so much more chilled now just knowing I can finish early.

CAn't beleive it's nearly 11am already - yipee nearly lunch time - but with you too Suey2 re size you can fit in - starvin marvin but half way through give up - really annoying.

No crazy moods today Neuro??

[shocked] at the father saying 'Shut up' to baby - where is his heart?? I can't bear to see my DD crying at all, let along 3.5 hours!

Housemum - How comes you were tested? Actually was made to feel really small and stupid because I queried it. Am thinking of going down the route of private testing. Oh another complaint about the m/w - she left her office door open and while in the waiting room I could hear her making calls to other patients and very loudly dicussing itchiness in the downstairs region - whatever happened to pateient confidentitality??

Yes I agree Beanster - it really is awful weather today. I'd be suffering from SAD if I hadn't bought some new shoeboots from Clarks (I know, Clarks ) yesterday. My feet are toasty warm and dry and they look great. The total look is spoiled a little by my old black anorak that still just about fits, but you can't have everything.

Also had a really good sleep last night. Perhaps I've finally cracked it with the correct pillow combination. Have slept for the last 3 nights. What a difference it makes - I feel almost normal.

Morning All. What do you know about waters breaking? Is it uncommon for them to go before you've had contractions? I am worried they will fire out while I'm asleep and ruin my new bed!

Well I have been wondering if he (the baby) has got something wrong with it. Colic? I don't know what that is yet.

No crazy moods today nope! Although I am really tired so I dunno, i might be comical later.

I am feeling a bit vulnerable today though because I've just agreed on the price to sell my flat. It's been my home for 6 or 7 years. I've wanted to move for a year or two, but now it's come around it's a bit nerve wracking, I suppose because it's a massive change isn't it? However, I've been really lucky as it's going to be a private sale, no estate agents involved and going to a really nice new owner. I feel pretty zen about it and looking forward to being a bit more footloose.

Where's Mixedmama this week? Is she on hols?

Amani - I said I was concerned and wanted to be tested - whether the fact I knew someone whose baby was seriously affected swayed her decision, I don't know - perhaps she thought I'd get stroppy.

Mimicakey - apparently it's more common for waters to go after contractions but they can go first - I bought a single mattress protector last time just in case (a flat one that attaches with elastic to the bed rather than a fitted one) - I put this under my side of the bed from 36 weeks, I later used it on DD2's bed when night-time potty training. My waters went first, but was during the day. Would say that you should always carry a couple of maternity pads in your bag in late pregnancy - I thought when your waters went it was a huge gush, but that's actually later on in labour usually - the waters in front of the head (the head blocks the way for the rest) is more of a trickle that keeps going. If you hear talk of forewaters and hindwaters, the forewaters is the fluid in front, if the baby's head is engaged, the rest will come out at birth (the hindwaters).

Weather - yuk. Came upstairs to venture into DD2's room to try to sort it properly as it's a pigging mess but really cannot be arsed. My jeans are soaking wet on the washing line 'cos I left them out there yesterday not realising it was due to rain. Woke up this mornign intending to do a real cleaning blitz but gave up after the washing-up. And DD1's off school this afternoon as it's open evening later, so she will realise I do nothing when she's out! (And she'll want to MSN her mates meaning I can't idly pass the time on here...)

Thanks Housemum. I guess it's another one of those things that could happen in any number of ways! Good tip about the single matress protector though, I'd feel a bit bad making dh sleep on rubber sheets!

Re Group B Strep, a friend of mine got me a test that costs £36, can't remember the name but I'll look it up and post later. There's an extra swab in this pack tho! I'm going to check with mw whether they will take any notice of it though before sending away.

mimicakey - if you don't want to get a matress protector you could try the pampers disposable bed protectors (very useful for after too if you bleed heavily or move it up bed if you leak in night) waters can go with a gush or trickle think it just depends

well still at work - thanks for advice Amani but I'm one of these people who has a ricidulous unfounded loyalty to work, I need to get some more work done before I go - I'm also summing up courage to ask to take a day off a week in nov - prob is I'm already taking wed mornings off for antenatal classes in nov so I'd go to 2 and half days... I'm such a wimp

neuro - if they are actually leaving baby then thats horrible but maybe baby is ill and they are carrying it round and it still crys? (trying to give them benifit of doubt..) also know its horrible for man to tell him to shut up but I have done that to ds in past after several nights of no sleep, I feel horrible afterwards but lack of sleep makes you a horrible person sometimes (obviously its completely different if he does it all the time)

Housemum - I suspect chocolate is what you need I keep thinking about the room tidying bit too - DD is living on clothes piled on her chest of drawers at the mo coz her lazy arse mummy can't get round to sorting out all her too small clothes from her wardrobe etc etc etc - but every time I feel even vaguely inclined the feeling passes within a few mins. So much needs doing though before Button arrives and I'm getting in a bit of a tizz about it all - even DH has finally agreed we must get organised.

As for water breaking - with DD mine were so civilised. 07:30 Sat morning, woke up, into en-suite for normal wee and a bit more came out that expected - it was only then really that my contractions kicked in - maybe they had been going a bit while I was asleep but not enough for me to wake up? Bet this time it is far less civilised though and will no doubt be in the car/supermarket/bed etc - good hint about the pads though. One further hint though - DO NOT wear grey tracky bottoms once waters have gone and you're heading into hospital - as you keep leaking then for hours not a pretty sight!! - black ones this time

is it too early for lunch yet?