Dec19/Jan20 IVF Graduates

[BambiOnIce80]

Graduate thread for all the amazing ladies who have endured infertility and are hopefully now starting a new chapter🤞

@Littlelot @Viletta @candycornlover @FlapJackered @Wimbledon1

I got my BFP on Tuesday the 28th and am feeling pretty symptom free today (so obviously panicking that it's all going wrong! 😣). 7 week scan due to be Tuesday the 18th and it feels like a long way away with symptoms going awol! 😥 POAS this morning and it looks spot on for where I should be, so trying to take some comfort from that 🤞🤞🤞

@Viletta not thought about next steps if it’s over, we have 2 Frosties I think, maybe one, lesser quality but 🤷‍♀️ But yes would try again 🤞🏻

Oh @Minster2012 I'm so sorry to hear this. It sounds like you've been through so much, today and generally and you must really feel you are due a bloody break! As @Viletta said, just maybe it's a late implanter? We've nearly all had the pains so that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Will keep everything crossed for you for good blood results tomorrow and even better on Friday. 🤞🏻🤞🏻💫

@Minster2012 I am so sorry you have had such a worrying day. Life can be very cruel. I am keeping everything crossed for you that it turns out ok. With my mc last year they scanned me and couldn't find anything, thought it was ectopic, operated and realised it was actually where it was meant to be. So scans aren't always right especially at this stage.
I will keep everything crossed the hcg brings better news. X

@CupcakeEater I am so sorry to hear this. That is very sad news. Take good care of yourself and give yourself some time. X

@Wimbledon1 I actually am self employed so work from home. Let's just say the last two weeks haven't been the most productive 😬. I felt much better yesterday too so I am hoping I am coming out the other side. 🤞 That is good you're feeling good (bitch 😂) although watch out for those coughers. I saw on the news someone tackled someone coughing on an aeroplane. Maybe you could do the same. Just take them out! 😂

@DobbieFreeElf my sister had the same thing and did have some bleeding but the baby is absolutely fine and is now 30 weeks. I know it is hard but try not to google. Most people come onto forums to discuss when things go wrong so I think it is quite a skewed view.

Urgh I am getting fed up with the pessaries and leaking constantly. Only two more weeks left of them but it feels like a lifetime!
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@Minster2012 that’s completely shit ☹️ Hope you get some answers from the HCG today x

@FlapJackered thanks for the reassurance. I did read that they are more common in ivf pregnancies but the can’t rule out that it was caused by the fall last week ☹️

Yes @Viletta google is the devil! All of you remember this when you have your little ones in your arms!

I did actually always believe that MN was a very toxic place before I started fertility treatment and found you lovely lot 😊

Oh @Minster2012 and @CupcakeEater I am absolutely gutted to hear your scan updates 💙 I'm going to keep everything crossed for your hCG update @Minster2012 and hope that the private scanner was right and it was tricky to see because of the scar tissue 🍀🤞🍀🤞

Thanks for thinking of us @Chooklass and @Lily999 🥰 DP's family are spread across Lazio, so not in the Northern hotpots (thankfully 😪). His mum says there's one positive case in their medium sized town so far, which doesn't seem too bad when you think that Lothian has 7 positive cases when I last looked yesterday! 😷 I must admit I was a bit scittish when I had to catch the bus yesterday and didn't want to have to touch anything! 🤦‍♀️ I'm the one with a sniffle though (probably just a cold 🤞), so I'm kind of looking forward to the government bringing in the 7 days isolation for even mild symptoms in potentially a week and a bit! 😂 Come on - it would be amazeballs to get 7 days of self isolation off work enforced by the government right now! 😬

Your big reveal sounds like it was amazing @Lily999 😍 I do keep running through how we're going to tell mine and DP's parents, but then we want to get the trisomy risk result/12 week scan out of the way first... 15 days and counting to go! 🔮

Hopefully the feeling rough will do one soon @FlapJackered 🤞 I've found I'm way better since 9 weeks hit 👍 The nausea has all but gone and I'm just a bit more tired than usual - otherwise feeling pretty normal (which obviously has me panicking that it's all going wrong! 🤦‍♀️).

@FlapJackered I too am sick of the pessaries and leakage!!

@Minster2012 @CupcakeEater so sorry to hear your bad news, hope you're both coping ok.

I am currently still doing my 'constant stream' of good tactic for sickness and also now added on travel sickness bands which I am currently trying to decide are they working, or is it just coincidence today that I feel a bit better!? Fingers crossed it's a cure!!

Well my beta HCG has come back at 1420 so it’s lower than it should be but still showing a “pregnant” level of around 6 weeks (should be 7+4) and so need to repeat late tomorrow then be in limbo again til Saturday.

Could be ectopic, could have stopped growing & now declining could by some miracle be a late developer though I have no reasoning why and I’m trying not to google.
The ultimately frustrating thing is that because that was in a different hospital (my one for oncology & endocrine) now my hospital & clinic for the IVF won’t continue the HCG testing and care for that, they say as I’ve gone elsewhere I have to continue it & gave me a lecture on why I should have refused the scan I was offered

@Minster2012 erch so hard to be in limbo. I hope everything will turn out good, but it seems reasonable that you are preparing yourself for all outcomes. Fingers crossed.

I heard Czech banned travelers from the UK, I feel for people cycling abroad. I am glad we managed to get our bfp before this whole travel band started. Must be devastating not knowing when you can IVF again if you are abroad.

Our trip to Italy has been cancelled. DH is I'll we are sleeping in separate bedrooms just in case. It's not corona just a random thing.

Hope you are all taking care of yourself!

@BambiOnIce80 you must be now crossing the line from embryo to fetus!

Excuse my French @Minster2012, but your IVF clinic sound like a bunch of arseholes! 😕 Of course you were going to accept the scan at the other hospital when you were so worried! I don't think now is the time to lecture you when you're still so worried and trying to find out what's going on - I'm raging for you 😠 I'm sorry you're having to wait for more bloods to find out what's going on, but I'm keeping everything crossed for an upward trend on your hCG 🤞🤞🤞

I was wondering how plans were coming along with your Italy trip @Viletta, but I guess it's better safe than sorry (not much consolation, I know!). I'm 10+2 today, so I think that makes me 2 days into foetus-ville! 😄 I had a dental check up yesterday (just routine) and it was quite nice not having to pay! My dentist was like "oooh good, there's a couple of niggly things I've been putting off suggesting, but you'll get it for free now so let's get some appointments booked in"! 🤑😂 No idea what happens if it's bad news at the 12 week scan/trisomy risk result... trying to think positively though 🧘‍♀️

Yes I know @BambiOnIce80 I’ve just said to one of the 2 friends that know, it was a very highly emotionally charged situation (let alone being full of extra hormones too) & when faced with a situation like that and also knowing I struggle with childcare for our toddler especially as ppl don’t know what’s going on then I go into “right let’s get yourself sorted ASAP mode” and so when the sister was literally on the phone to their sonographer saying “they can scan you tomorrow here at 2.45pm but need to know now (previously they had said Friday & I said I’d leave it then as I had no childcare) & I knew our son was in nursery weds so I was free then what am I going to say “oh hold on let me just call hull and hope I can get through & they can call their EPU & get an appointment instead?? Errrrrr no.

I agree that it’s fucking shit. It shouldn’t matter who took the blood. My clinic we’re happy to accept my hcg report from Saturday on Monday... and who is going to refuse a scan if they’re in a position where they’re worried?? Ridiculous

Ah well, least I’m not the only one...we will know more on sat so I’m internally wiling HCG levels upwards!! 😂🤞🏻Hoping the Indian ive just had will send skywards!

Good luck with your HCG today @Minster2012 Hopefully the spices have given it a boost! 🤣

Not sure what to do with DS today! I’ve just realised that Boris’s new “measures” say to stay home if you have a cough or temp. Well DS always has a cough, literally always, I’m pretty certain he’s asthmatic but they can’t diagnose that until a kid can do a peak flow meter (usually about 5) and he’s regularly given steroids when his wheezing is bad. His school has an inhaler for him and every day will let me know how much he’s been coughing, usually “a bit”. He was coughing last night in bed quite badly and he’s coughing this morning a usual amount but am I supposed to keep him home?!

@dobbieFreeElf thank you, obviously it’s sooo frustrating we aren’t going to know til tomorrow. I may have googled ectopic pregnancies to see what we need to prepare for the worst too. maybe phone 111 and ask their advice? I think there would be a lot of asthmatic ppl who are both more at risk and coughing more? It’s only preschool right? So not going to miss loads of education but not ideal for you childcare wise

It really does need to step up containment wise. I was talking to DH last night as part of his business is on event hire but only a small part so we think we are ok, but loads of other businesses could be catastrophic. Also one thing is schools but ppl who work in large offices are just as much at risk but we figure that adults take more heed of hand washing I guess 🤷‍♀️

Absolutely hope you've spiced up your hCG result @Minster2012!🍛🤞🍀

I don't know if I've understood it right or not @DobbieFreeElf, but I thought it said people with a 'new' cough had to self isolate? I think you can get clarity on the guidance from 111 online (they've asked people to stop calling 111 about Covid-19 as of yesterday). I hope DS is ok.x

I've been having a bit of a weird couple of days with getting short of breath/struggling to breathe easily 🙄 Ventolin isn't helping, but temperature is absolutely fine 🌡️👍 I've had this happen once before and it was stress related whilst I was worrying about a potential health issue in the background... I'm stressed at work right now because we have a major inspection next week, but that happens yearly and it's never kicked off the dyspnoea thing 🤔 Then I had an epiphany on the train this morning - it's because I've been constantly worrying about the sodding trisomy risk for the last 3 weeks!😣 The scan/bloods are supposed to be 2 week's today, but that could very well be postponed with all this Covid-19 craziness 😷 Where I work has just cancelled all non-urgent outpatient appointments from Monday due to delay measures for Covid-19, so I'm pretty sure my scan appointment will be delayed as a minimum at my home hospital too 😰

So. I've decided I can't keep stressing myself out like this and I've gone and done exactly what I said I wouldn't... I've booked private NIPT bloods for this Sunday (which comes with a scan, so we should hopefully see if that little heartbeat is still flickering away 💓🤞) 🤦🏻‍♀️ I really can't keep stressing like this for the next 2+ weeks 😔 If it's effecting my breathing, god only knows what it could be doing to il bambino 😣 Can someone please tell me that I'm not crazy and I've probably done the right thing, given the circumstances?!🤯😬

Thanks ladies I’m going for lunch then onto bloods, wearing my lucky stork socks we got for our surrogacy & then sparkly unicorn doc martens of dreams (see pic)

@BambiOnIce80 I think the NIPT is a good call to settle your anxiety & therefore will always be money well spent. We did it for DS after he would lie still for nuchal & I needed reassurance on the diseases so i can totally understand it. If the money isn’t a concern then it’s your health & well-being first

@BambiOnIce80 I’ve had a few short spells of breathlessness which I’d assumed were down to expanding uterus pushing up on diaphragm? Also, our lung capacity is increasing to pump the extra blood around (a pregnant friend was getting it too and explained this to me). I totally get your stress over potential test/ scan delays though - might go same route as you. Doesn’t seem like much money after IVF costs! Our 12wk scan is at a small local hospital rather than Royal - no idea how that will affect things. When is your booking in appt? Mine is Monday.

Haha, they are the DMs of dreams @Minster2012 😄 Best of luck for today, c'mon Hcg, up you go!!

@BambiOnIce80 you are talking to someone here who has already paid for a private appointment because they didn't enjoy or feel satisfied with their first scan, so....definitely no judgement here. And absolutely I will be doing the same as you if my 12 week and trisomy risk doesn't go ahead. I'm literally sat in the waiting room for my booking-in appointment, and one of my questions is about how likely I am to get my 12 week scan. Not sounding great that your place has cancelled everything non-urgent though 😬

Thank you so much for being here @Minster2012 @Chooklass @Wimbledon1 🥰

@Minster2012 I have serious DM envy right now! 😍 I do love my black waffle cone soft top DM's, but yours are so, so shiny! 🤩 The NIPT isn't exactly cheap, but I'm fortunate to have finished paying off my 0% credit card last month which means I've got the spare cash to manage the unexpected expense 👍 Hoping your bloods have gone alright?🤞🍀

Thank you so much for mentioning the squashed diaphragm possibility @Chooklass - I definitely hadn't thought of anything like that! This dyspnoea thing is so exactly the same as the last stressy-health time that I think it probably has got something to do with it (and even if it hasn't I still don't think I can wait to find out if our scan is delayed! 🤯). I've gone for a place in Edinburgh for the NIPT, so I'll report back, if it helps? Very exciting that your booking appointment is so soon! 🤩 I was offered next Tuesday, but I couldn't take it because of this bloody inspection 🙄 Mine is the 24th instead at our local treatment centre (but the scan is at RIE 3 days afterwards, thus why I'm worried it'll be postponed 😣). Will your OH be joining you at the appointment?

Even more exciting that you're sat waiting for your booking appointment as we speak @Wimbledon1 ! 🤩🤩🤩 I hope this appointment makes up for the crappiness of the last one!🤞🤞🤞

@BambiOnIce80 if you can afford it then why not, and in the grand scheme of ivf it’s nothing! I do agree with @Chooklass though, I’m hugging and puffing like a train, I remember that starting really early with DS too but no harm in doing something that puts your mind at rest. I’m already panicking about it being another 10days until my next scan, but I’ve had no more bleeds and I’ve been much more cautious, no lifting at all now.

@Minster2012 good luck! Your dms are unicornfied just like the cupcakes DS and I have just made! (Random eyes are left over from halloween!)

And thank you for your advices on taking DS to preschool today, I did ask the ladies when I dropped him off if they’d rather I take him home I would and they said “but he’s always coughing”!

Yes, report back please @BambiOnIce80! My DP is coming along on Monday. He looked a bit sad when I initially said I thought only I could go, but spoke to a few friends who all took their DPs, at least for first one.

What a surreal crazy week it’s been?! I hope you can all get some head space away from the rolling disaster-movie-esque news xxxx

Hasn't it been crazy. Really feels like it's escalated to disaster movie status as you say. Was thinking we'll possibly all have quite surreal pregnancy experiences, likely no antenatal or NCT classes for many months...possibly not even being able to do things like sort out the nurseries because the homeware shops will be closed etc. It's all so odd. Obviously as long as they are right that there doesn't seem to be a risk to our beans then that is all that matters. But it'll be a hell of a story to tell them when they grow up, about how we were isolated for three months while they were harvesting!! 😂

I did take DH to my booking appointment today and it was a bit of a waste of a day's leave to be honest. But he said he was glad to 'feel a bit more involved in the process'.
They also told me my scan/test date. On 8 April at 13+5!!! I was not happy. Went straight upstairs to bookings and made up a fake holiday and got it moved forward to 12+5. At 38 I think it's slightly irresponsible to wait until nearly 14 weeks frankly but anyway....as @BambiOnIce80 said all of them might be cancelled anyway!!

Oh hell no to waiting until 13+5 for a scan @Wimbledon1! 😳 Imagine if they then had to postpone it because of Covid-19?! That would probably stop me breathing completely! 🤯😉 Sorry to hear that it felt like a bit of a waste of an A/L day for DH today - did he not have to answer any questions for the family origin questionnaire or anything? At least he felt more involved though 🙂

Interesting that you've been huffing and puffing too @DobbieFreeElf 🤔 I'm definitely starting to wonder if I've got it completely wrong 😏 Still pretty comfortable with having booked the NIPT test though because I am worried about the scan getting postponed and I don't think my inner crazy can cope with not knowing the trisomy risk for much longer 😣🧪 That's fantastic news that the bleeding has stopped - long may it continue! 🤞🤞🤞

Work is definitely shaping up like a disaster movie at the moment @Chooklass! I've never seen anything like it in the 18 years I've worked in the NHS - totally surreal 😟 I'll definitely report back about the scan on Sunday 👍 There's certainly no point in us both wasting £395 if it turns out to be 💩!

I was thinking similar earlier @Wimbledon1 - we’ll be having ‘Corona Babies’! You hear older folks describing themselves as ‘war babies’ - it’s still part of their identity decades later. Who would have imagined we’d be having such unique pregnancies when these threads started?!

There’s bound to be disruption to the usual level of pregnancy care we’d expect, which is a bit worrying. All the more important we have this group so we can share info and help each other through this crazier than normal journey! 💪❤️ X

@DobbieFreeElf those cakes look AMAZING!! and very good that preschool recognised the cough bring there already.

I’m wallowing at home with my alcohol free kopparberg. I told DH he could go meet his brother for a drink (who has 8 month pregnant wife & 1year old) who is over at MILs to let off some stress as that’s best for him, I need to be miserable, he needs to try to forgot a bit. We’ve faced the fact that we might have to tell MIL & BIL/SIL tomorrow if we find out ectopic as I will need to go to hospital & need him there & not toddler & my parents are on holiday 😬so need MIL to look after DS. It will be shit but necessary if worse case.

Ironically I’m watching “hospital” & to hear you ladies @BambiOnIce80 & @Wimbledon1 talk of disaster movies it’s a bit strange. It’s not like that here, trust me I’ve been to hospital nearly every day this week & 2 different ones in west & East Yorkshire & they look the same as usual in fact I parked up much easier (except when I bumped that guy but we’ll forget that! 😂) except everyone is using the sanitiser & washing hands

Our nursery have put out a statement saying don’t send your child if they have developed a new cough & I have got DS in for more days which is unusual but we haven’t got any confirmed cases in the East Riding so 🤞🏻🤞🏻Though we are looking at cancelling events 😬but they’ve said nothing about no antenatal classes 🤔