Due Oct ~sow's a'roasting!

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Hellllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooo..............here i am, sorry but waited for ages for somone else to do it and i can't find it if they have!

I think from chatting to other people that different age gaps bring different problems. With a small age gap I think it can be harder physically as the toddler still needs a lot done for them but because they don't have the memory of being on their own the jealousy is less of a problem than it can be with older children. Once there is a gap of more than 3 years the fact you can reason with the older child can make it easier plus they are doing a lot more for themselves but you don't get the break when they sleep and jealousy can be a bigger issue.

My theory for having them quite close was that it will be harder more intense work for a couple of years but the fact they were close would mean it would get easier sooner as they would be more likely to have stuff in common and then amuse each other... Please no-one p*ss on my bonfire if I am wrong!!!!

lololol Muppet it never ends from what I know. DS still asks "WHY"

Why...
do I have to go to bed
Do i have to do homework
Do we have to move
Do i have to throw old toys away
DO i have to go to school today
Can't i watch the baby being born
Can't i go out and play
Are you so unfair
Can't I have a laptop
Can't I have a new mobile

Think that should give you an idea lmao.

My mum works in a school and has always said every 2 steps a child takes forwards they take 3 backwards!!!!!!!! enjoy it lolol

Alice lol there is a 5 yr age gap between my brother and sister and a 17 month age gap between my brother and I.

My sis n bro are closer than me n him and get on a lot better. hee hee hope bonfire still burning

RUNS

Good afternoon everyone... moan alert!!!

Woke up in a bad mood this morning, I think it is because dh has gone away today for 10 days!!! and I am knackered and ds is doing my head in atm. He has been crying over the slightest thing this morning and whining which is really wearing my patience to the absolute limit. Luckily he is now in nursery till 5.30.

Alicet - he has gone on a driving holiday to spain and portugal with a load of other blokes, it was booked before I found out I was pregnant otherwise I wouldn't have let him go.

Had mw appt this morning, she took my bloods again but prob won't get results back till see her again. She prodded my bump and then told me lo had turned and was now breech.... arse, bugger, , . he has been fine all the way through, when I had 3d scan head was down and I think that was at 28 weeks. She tried to get me in for a scan to check, but they won't do it till I am 36 weeks, which is 3 days away, but I have to wait till I see mw again in 2 weeks time to check position before they scan me, but I'll be nearly 38 weeks then!!! then I will have to wait for a scan and then an ECV if he hasn't moved... what if he comes early, it'll be too late to do anything then won't it??? She also told me that bump is all baby and I don't have much fluid round him, so that is going to make it more difficult for him to turn isn't it? I hadn't considered the thought of a cs as all had been going swimmingly up until now.

I am frustrated, moody, tearful (holding it back just atm) and dh has buggered off. Just been to Sainsburys and bought loads of comfort food.

Right, time to research all this breech business...

Sorry its all a me me me post.

My SIL agrees Alice. Her ds1 wasn't jealous of dd but now he's a bit more savvy and she's a bit more careful leaving them alone together. Her ds is now 2.8 and dd is 10 months.

I find Ollie mentally demanding atm and I am really looking forard to him going back to nursery next week. (I used to feel guilty that I didn't feel guilty about him being at nursery but now I know it's good for both of us!!)

btw - when is it a good age to introduce 'stanger danger?' I've done it at school but never introduced it to a child
-my child and so don't know when. Any good books about this subject?

MrsFish - the guidelines state that if a baby is confirmed to be breech that you should be scanned at 36 weeks, and offered ECV for no later than 37 weeks ... will try to find the reference ... the ladies on the breech watch thread are an absolute mine of information!

As for the age gap thing, there's 5 1/2 years between me and my sister, and as children we hated each other ...we get on (just about) now, but only when we spend short amounts of time in each other's company.

Mind you, there's going to be 5 years gap between madam bean and ds ... however, that was through circumstance rather than planning - I was advised not to get pg for at least 2 years after ds was born to allow hormone levels to stabilise ... and having suffered hyperemesis with ds as well, I couldn't cope with the idea of having a toddler and being pg with the possibility of the hyperemesis again.
As it works out, it means that I'm going to have time to devote to the baby as ds will be at school during the day ... it also means that my childcare bill will be less when I get back to work!

DS has a friend over this afternoon ... and he's being a little bugger! Hopefully they'll have to settle down and play nicely, otherwise I'll have to phone friend's mum and ask her to come and get him!

MrsFish - have just looked properly at the breech watch thread - and realised that you've already found it!

Ejt - The mw tried to get me a scan for next week, when I would be 36 weeks, but they told her to just see me in 2 weeks, if she still thought it was breech, then they would see me for a scan. I'm not sure what to do now??

tbh I don't know whether she is right or not, I have a hard lump on the right side of my bump which I presumed was the bum, but she reckons its too hard and small to be the bum, but at the same time at the same height on my left side I am getting lots of kicks and hardness, which I presumed to be his feet/knees etc. I'm not feeling any real movement below the belly button, god knows whats going on. Might just bury my head in the sand to save worrying and just wait and see, its all I feel like I can do atm.

Hello all

ejt - I love the way you seem to know everything about everything to do with pregnancy ! You're a great resource!

MrsFish - there is still time for baby to turn and there seem to be plenty of things you can do to get him/her to turn, or at least encourage it. And, you don't have to have a cs with a breech baby if you don't want one. It may be worth trying to find someone with experience of delivering breech babies naturally if that's what you decide you want. Hope the comfort food is working . I'm sitting here trying to work out what's what in there, but I just can't tell - I think s/he may be lying across-wise at the moment.

I think I've got the biggest age gap on here (at least with no other kids in between) - DD will be 12 and a half when LO arrives! I wouldn't have planned things this way, but I have to admit I don't envy you guys with toddlers to cope with either.

Boots on-line have currently got their washable breast pads on 2 for 1 if anyone's interested.

Waves and hugs to everyone!!

A x

Hi Apricott - I did a lot of reading when pg with ds ... then with the 2 mc, and the need for me to fight for a vbac, I've had to take on lots of info ... glad this stuff is useful for somebody!

I'm also pretty good at remembering random pieces of information ... dh thinks I'm scary with it!

However, at the moment, ask me where I've put my keys, and I don't have a clue!

Thanks for the info on the breast pads!

MrsFish - the spinning babies website is pretty good at showing you how to map your baby's movements ... mind you, you probably need a lot of time on your hands!

DS has had his friend round this afternoon, and although they've had some spats, most of the time, they've played together really well ... it's been bliss: I've sat and read in the garden, while they got on with it!

Hi girls

Ok you have got your way Im off to get checked after dinner. I cant really not go as when i have checked BP today its been up and also LO isnt very active. Im sure im over reacting and will feel really stupid when i get there, but better to be safe. MW on the phone was very nice, so hope i get her and not bulldog from other day

Will update you when i get back.

Lisa

good luck Lisa x

best of luck Lisa- don't take any crap of them x

good luck lisa - thinking of you!

Good luck Lisa..I really hope everything is alright and if you get the bull dog tell her to go chomp on another victim; you are doing what is best for your little one and she is being paid to do her job not grumble about it.

LES!!!! Bonfire spitting a little but valiantly trying to stay alight thanks to muppet!!

MrsFish ? absolutely typical that ds plays up AND you get the news that lo is breech on the day your dh goes away. Any chance you could make another appointment to see your mw next week in order to be referred earlier? Seems mad that they are being so picky for the sake of 3 days and that mw can?t just call in 3 days to book the scan?. Thinking of you?

Ejt ? yes a big plus on the cheaper childcare!! Our for 2 will be only just less than our mortgage so think the next few years are going to be the skintest we?ve ever been! Still at least we?ll feel like we?re rolling in it when ds goes to school (if we get him into a decent state one anyway!) although sure we?ll spend it soon enough!

For first timers who are planning to bf ? Apricott?s tip about 2 for 1 washable breast pads is a good one! The washable ones are SO much more comfy than the disposables and not really any more effort. And I tend to be lazy and go for convenience where I can!! I have disposable ones for hospital and the change bag but will use resuables the rest of the time?.

Lisa ? really glad to hear you?re going to get checked honey. Thinking of you and hope all is well x

Well I had a fab afternoon meeting up with chochobnob - she is a lovely lady! Won the heart of my ds too by giving him a fab train (which is a great coincidence as he has learnt to say train today after picking up fil from the train station this am! Ds was on full show off mode - very smiley and giggly and flirting with everyone in the coffee place! Dh would say 'that's my boy!'

See you later...

I've got one last lesson of the day arriving in 15 mins so wont get chance to say everything I want to just yet...I'll get back on here after I've had dinner and taken s-i-l her birthday pressies...(including a months subscription to match.com she's feeling really lost and lonely since turfing out NBG cheating hubby 18 months ago...they had been together since she was 16!...and was bewailing being on her own for her birthday when the ex was on his 4th g/f since the split...so I've decided a bit of flirting practise online will do her no harm!)
See you all later

Hi ladies, just wanted to pop my head in and say 'Hi' a mix of no time, tiredness and internet problems have kept me away but have been thinking about everyone and hope you're all ok!
I'm heading back to work after summer hols for two weeks on Monday then maternity leave starts - yeah!! Been 'diagnosed' with SPD and have to wear a dreadfully fetching brace and use crutches from time to time, apart from that pg going well.
Wish there was a summary button, how on earth do I catch up on months of thread??!!

Dh phoned at quarter to 6 saying he would be at least another hour at work before he does the 1 1/2 commute home

Friend popped over with

1. Moses basket
2. baby bath
3. loads of toys + books
4. Baby support seat for the bath

Don't we just love friends that pop over with stuff they don't need!!!

Hiya all

well pains from lower stomach are gone but now have griping pains in my lower back lololol wonder if this baby doesn't want to wait.

Midwife last appt she said he measuring 4 weeks bigger than due date, sooooo that means my dates were right and the hosps were wrong. I said 13th september they said 15th october.

Have just been to local somerfields and bought strawberried reduced and a tub of fresh cream...now i have a dilemma shall i keep some for dp or eat the lot myself lol.

eat, eat, eat.....

Have to say I measured (tape measure 'measured') bigger than dates with Oliver. Was in the grey area on the charts but was never referred. He arrived 11 days late...

Hi everyone - so much chat and not enough time to reply! Lisa, hope all is well with you though.

Things with us ok - DH is away (I'm thinking of you mrs fish - enjoy the peace and your tv choice!) but DS has suddenly decided to start really playing up at bed time. Always been great sleeper but was up and wide awake every two hours last night. Luckily DH was here so we took it in turns to sit with him adn hope he would fall asleep. Hoping it won't be repeatd again tonight. Can't cope with that every night.

Some good news - my SIL had a little boy yesterday; a great, straightforward delivery after her first nightmare EMCS. So for all those thinking of vbac, it can be done. This of course sent me into a whirlwind of maybe I should try after all and forego the elective but DH had a good chat about it all this morning and decided that we made the decision for good reasons in the first place so will stick to it and if this LO comes early we'll try and do it naturally. So so hard to decide though.

anyway - hope you're all ok and having a good evening. catch you all later.

Muppet,

I am not sure whether I want him to come on my dates or hospitals dates lol.

Just have a feeling it will be sooner rather than later.

Now panicking as I have got everything EXCEPT bottles....I am trying to find traditional shaped ones and can only find the new ones which are supposedly closer to nature.......if i wanted my baby on a tit i'd use my own...

Sorry for being crude!!!!!!!!

haha haha!!!!! on the 'tit' les.