The March-ers (2019) #2

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Eek! On thread 2 already...welcome over everyone!

ErikaSt she is 3 so I should realise that silence means trouble but my bed was so comfy

@Wineandchoccy - my cousins little one (now 6) has slept over at ours on a couple of occasions and always find the silent non-sleeping moments the scariest!

Those if you who have had a scan and found a sticky bean and heartbeat - have you then told everyone or are you still waiting for the end of the first trimester? I'm thinking about once we've a heartbeat I'll tell a select few (close family and the boss) but leave the big announcement until mid-late August. Already been trying to work out a cute 'bump' Christmas card (we did printed personalised ones last year and it made it so easy!), I'm sure there'll be people for whom the Christmas card will be the big reveal too.

@RachaelT although we had a scan yesterday with a heartbeat I'm only 6+3, in fact the embryo was actually measuring a few days behind that (which I'm doing my best not to read into - the sonographer wasn't concerned so I shouldn't be) so still feels very early to be announcing. We have a private scan at 8 weeks and if all is good then we'll announce to family and close friends as and when we see people, but will still leave the proper announcement until after the dating scan. I tried to find some stats on likelihood of miscarriage after problem-free scans at 6, 8 and 13 weeks and although there's some discrepancy the numbers I fixed on were under 5%, 2% and under 1% respectively, so still a way to go!

I'm still hanging around...!

@Murphyrocks I'm not sure if this is in any way reassuring coming from me, but my Dr said even at the end of 5 weeks if there is a heart beat and it's got a 97% chance of going full term. I think it's quite a nice statistic to hold on to, even if it's perhaps a bit generous. Think positive until you have a reason to doubt :)

@RachaelT I had told quite a few people. Ive also now told a few people there are issues and it may well have mc-ed. I've generally had immense support from these people. Perhaps it's because of the people I picked. Don't know. Even if I have to do this all over again, I'd still tell those people because they've been awesome. I'm guessing that your reticence to tell people is because you are fearful it might go wrong. From my point of view, having been reasonably open with people about it going wrong, I've found a support network of ladies who have been in a similar position and for the most part that's been good. One or two unintentional twat comments from my friend who is pregnant but has never experienced mc but she's just trying to be positive so who can blame her. I've always said that if I was working I wouldn't tell the boss, but actually I can see there is a big advantage to telling them. And in fact if I did work for a company rather than for hubby I'd have had to have faked illness to cover this up anyway!

Thanks @frankiefumbles, would rather stats from an actual Dr than Dr Google! And I was thinking whether it's 3% or 5% that's actually a lot of women in the context of how many are pregnant so not surprising to know someone in that percentile. So glad you've been getting support - I agree I've generally been telling people I would be looking for support from in the event of a mc so don't see a problem with telling them about the pg. In an ideal world I wouldn't have told my boss so early but events conspired against me and he's been really good.

@Murphyrocks try not to worry too much about the dates from the scan. I spent the first trimester freaking out last time as I was reading “behind” right from my bfp (used a clear blue weeks predictor). I had an early scan at what I thought was 8 weeks and turned out I was only 7+1. Went for my 12 week scan and had to go back as I wasn’t far along enough. I had to go back when I was 13 weeks and they dated me at 14+2 which is the cut off day for everything! The moral of the story is I went on to have a very healthy boy 13 days after my due date but this time I certainly won’t be as hung up on things. Our bodies our wonderful days but don’t always work like clockwork.

Hi everyone, mind if I join?
I tested positive yesterday afternoon a few days before period was due so didn't expect a positive at all. Did a digital test this morning and came back positive 1-2 weeks pregnant. Should be 4 weeks +2 for doctors and due 22nd March but with my last one I thought he would be due 23rd March and they said at the scan that I wasn't that far along and was actually due 2nd April. So I don't really believe my own dates this time!

Thanks @Orville82, just new territory for me as ds was always reading ahead on dates (and still on the 99th percentile!) so difficult not to worry this one is a little behind. But so difficult to read at this stage anyway so sure it's fine!

Is anyone worrying about cleaning products? I read something online about not using ones with chemicals, only natural ones. But I'm hoping this is just people being over cautious!?

@orangekitkat13 Yes there was a lot of news earlier this year that household cleaning products can be as bad for lung function as smoking. This included shampoos and the like! I try to use natural products as much as poss anyway. I avoid SLS and phthalates in my own grooming products. I mostly use white vinegar for cleaning - I never use bleach as we have a septic tank. I also didn't wear nail varnish while pregnant or breastfeeding because of the formaldehyde in most brands. But I am a very cautious person and it is personal preference. The key thing is to research and make informed decisions. If the risk is very small you may of course choose to take it, but it is good to be aware of what carries a risk!

@Bas27 and @Jenfur congratulations and welcome!

I'm finding that my nausea / general crappy feeling gets worse if I don't eat so I've been eating regularly. Sometimes I can eat a horse, sometimes just a little but either way, something is going in my mouth lol. Managed a McDonalds today!

@Wineandchoccy 😂😂😂 love it!

@orangekitkat13 yes I'm careful with cleaning products, particularly in the first trimester, for me that just means using rubber gloves and antiseptic wipes rather than sprays that you can breathe in, as well as keeping the area ventilated. Personal preference though. I use natural solid shampoo and conditioner anyway so hats a non issue for me.

Hey ladies....I sent a reply this morning that didn't go through for some reason!

Have had a busy day....picked up a new car and went shopping after it. Got home around 2 pm and having a rest since. Napped for an hour as the last two weekends have shown me I need a nap when I can get one!!

Glad to hear that everyone seems well! All good here today....5+5 and symptoms today are mainly: rushing to the loo (urination) not rushing to the loo (constipation) and heavy heavy achy boobs!!!! Oh and being v tired as has been most days of the week for past two weeks! Still i'm taking the fact that there are symptoms as proof that there's someone definitely in there!

I'm shattered today, just got no energy at all. Then I ending up crying because DH was doing everything and I wanted to play with DD but couldn't. Didn't think the guilt of having a second would start this soon!

I'm not particularly avoiding any cleaning products but I use worse at work (appropriate protection).

So I'm 6+2 and I have bright red bleeding with small clots and feeling quite nauseous. I think this could be the end

I'm not avoiding cleaning products and didn't last time - but then I have a cleaner who does the majority of work! Think you'd have to use a hell of a lot for it to have an effect and me doing a quick wiz round the kitchen doesn't worry me!

I'm exhausted today too. Have been on my own with DD all day (after taking her on her nursery trip yesterday) as DH worked. Absolutely shattered and will probably go and get in bed soon!

I totally hear you on the guilt @Bluebelltulip. I am really worried about how DD will cope when there is another baby. I do pretty much everything as DH works long shifts. So I'm also worried about how I will manage!

Scan tomorrow morning. Keep your fingers crossed for me! Too tired to be nervous but sure the anxiety will kick in tomorrow!

@KneesupGaston put a pad on so you can monitor the flow. Can you call your EPU and see if you can get an appointment? Is DH or someone with you? Crossing all for you xxxxxx

@kneesupgaston hugs and fingers crossed for you.

Supersharpshooter82 hope tomorrow goes well. I had a day out yesterday too which in hindsight was too much.

Thanks @Bluebelltulip and @SuperSharpShooter82 EPU opens tomorrow at 10am so I will ring tomorrow and see. I guess at this early stage time will tell anyway! DH is out this evening but he shouldn't be too late x

Welcome @Bas27!

I’m still very much on the hunger bus @ErikaSt Last time I didn’t get any nausea at all, which was great on the one hand but I did put on a lot. I saw a Dutch locum GP last night, just to get myself into the system. He said try not to put on more than 10-11kg so that I’m not a “bigger person” afterwards. His face when I told him that I put on nearly 4 stone whilst pregnant with DS 😂
Good luck for your scan tomorrow @SuperSharpShooter82 I’m also feeling waves of guilt about not being able to give DS enough time and attention post baby. Makes me tear up quite often. He’s my little pal and I love going out places and spending special time together.
Hoping that everything turns out to be okay KneesUpGaston - thinking of you

@kneesupgaston I hope it settles for you. Keep us posted xx

@KneesupGaston Please ring your midwife service asap, even if you haven't booked in yet. You should be able to get a referral to EPU. If not, try ringing the EPU direct. When I had brown bleeding and little clots they didn't refer me, but the moment it turned red they did. Unfortunately at 6+2 they probably won't be able to tell for certain what is going on as there may not be a heartbeat visible at that stage even if everything is okay, but they will be able to take measurements and then bring you back for a scan in a week and see if things have grown.

Hopefully it is just one of those things - you do hear of lots of people who bleed in early pregnancy and go on to have a healthy baby.

@KneesupGaston so sorry to hear it. Please remember 50% of people bleed in pregnancy, it can be totally normal and it will look like "more" if you see it in the toilet. It doesn't necessarily mean it's the end. As you said @SuperSharpShooter82 the best immediate plan is to pop a pad on to monitor it. The advice is that as long as you're not totally soaking through pass its likely to be perfectly normal. I know it's a gut wrenching feeling so sending hugs.

At this point there is very little that they can do to intervene but hopefully you will be offered a scan asap for reassurance.

There are plenty of other non-sinister reasons why you could have blood - for example sometimes there can be a little bubble of blood caught which will come out as red with clot and then eventually reduce in quantity and go to brown. My friend has been bleeding regularly around three days a week since 8 weeks and has made it to the magic 12 weeks and all is well for her. She has a little infection down there that they are trying to sort out with antibiotics.

Either way, as you go through this, please try to remember that you have done your absolute best for your bean, as we all do. I realise that telling you to relax won't help a jot, but sending hugs

So sorry to hear that @KneesupGaston, definitely get a pad on and see if it's enough to soak through and get in touch with your local Early Pregnancy Unit.

I'm the same @Bluebelltulip, usually very active with ds and struggling to even get off the couch at the moment never mind engage in all our normal activities, which of course makes me feel like a bad Mum. Mummy guilt is a b1tch!

Good luck for your scan @SuperSharpShooter82! Sure all will be well.

@fuzzywuzzy01 exciting on the new car, and symptoms all sound good.

Also don't think I said before but welcome and congrats to @Jenfur and @Bas27!