Due in February 2017....thread 5!

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Thread five for the chattiest bunch of preggers ladies you've ever had the pleasure of encountering. We're greeting the second trimester with excitement and apprehension, and lots of questions, humour, reassurance, empathy and advice.

Fourth thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/2684139-february-2017-thread-4-are-we-the-chattiest-bunch-or-what

ubercorn, she sounds like a twunt, good for you for standing your ground re the prescription, I hope they fill it for you without any more fuss. My GP surgery only has midwife appts from 2-3pm on Fridays, which I just couldn't do, but luckily I can see them on a Monday at the local children's centre, thank god, otherwise I would end up just not going to the appointment at all!

Uber that's fecking ridiculous, so glad you stood your ground!

I hear a lot about midwife only being around for like, and hour at places, how ridiculous is that?! What if there are five women who need to be seen? Surely they can't fit you all in! Here its every other Wednesday from 9am until 1pm and I thought that was a small slot!

Thanks laceylee, and stay away from google!!!

London, I think it's completely rational to be wary of a home birth if it's your first.

In fact, I would recommend NOT having a home birth with your first to anyone and everyone. And I'd also advise against MLU birth for first if it's not on the same premises as the hospital labour ward. My first pregnancy I was classed as low risk in every sense, and I went into spontaneous labour at 40+6, progressed normally through labour, except for a long time pushing and needing the ventouse. Up until that point everything would have been fine and normal, except that for absolutely no foreseeable reason I suddenly haemorrhaged seriously and even on labour ward with a consultant already in the room, immediate intervention, multiple administrations of the syntocinon injection AND drip I still lost 3 LITRES of blood in minutes and could easily have died had I been at home without doctors and extra drugs on hand and very quickly being given blood transfusions. There was no way to no before hand that it would happen. It happened due to having an atonic uterus, which sometimes just happens. Big babies contribute, long labours contribute, but the only definite risk factor they can pinpoint for a life threatening PPH is having had one in the past, and with a first pregnancy and labour there's just no knowing what could happen.

I don't want to scare anyone, losing quite that much blood is not normal or common, but PPHs are far more common than you might think, and it's something that was never mentioned in my NCT classes and 5 out of 8 women in my NCT group had a PPH, 2 of us requiring transfusions.

I should add that anecdotally I do know that plenty of women opt for home birth for their first and have everything go fine and well and they find it a wonderful experience. I can only offer my experience and I now feel quite angry that my midwife last time tried to convince me to have a home birth as I was 'low risk.'

Poor you wispa that must've been so scary. I like the idea of a home birth and it'd be great not to have the drive to hospital (about 25 minutes for me) but I feel I need to be where the drugs/ doctors are just in case. My mum is a MW and even she doesn't want me to have a home birth despite this being my second. Maybe I'll consider it if I ever have baby no.3.

Oddly not for me, topmammy, I wasn't really aware of what was going on and was very woozy, but was certainly scary for DH, as he was handed a newborn and then left alone with her in the room as I was rushed out, no one told him where we were going, what was going on, and no one updated him for half an hour! And there he was just waiting there no knowing what to do. So he called his mum! I definitely think he was more traumatised than I was!

wispa I think it's definitely more common than the midwives and NCT let on - I lost a fair amount of blood during c-section (about 1.5l), I didn't need a transfusion but one of my NCT group did.

I don't mean to scare anyone though - I've heard so many people's birth stories since having DS and most had much less traumatic births than mine!

I suppose though if you have no reason to think anything is against you or going to go wrong based on the info you have at that time, if you feel more comfortable at home you just have to go for it!

Im about to turn 16 weeks and bump is definitely growing but so weird when I lay down, my actual 'bump' is all over the place, sometime high, sometimes low, sometimes hard, sometimes soft, sometimes more to one side than the other!! Is anyone else the same??

Who was I talking to about dogs and babies the other day?? This thread moves so quickly I can't find it! haha

I missed the dogs and babies chat completely! What was it all about, then? My two have an Instagram hashtag, I'm such a sad dog-mum

wispa that's interesting and I feel for you poor DH. That would cause m DH to have a nervous breakdown.

I could never consider a home birth. I couldn't even have an outdoor wedding the driest month of the year in Miami as the remote chance of rain would have driven me mad.

I'm a hope for the best, plan for the worst in life kind of person. I wish it weren't so but now I'm in my 30s of come to know and accept who I am!

I totally respect what other people feel most comfortable with though. I totally can see the pros of home birth.

Well I am getting a dog in mid Sept and we were chatting about training and jealousy etc. But I am getting serious with the training in the early days to make my life easier later on and really looking forward to training a dog... we were wondering about dog jealousy when a baby comes on the scene or if anyone had any tips?? xx

With regards to the home birth chat, it is something I am going to do my hardest to aim for...well that is how I feel right now and have done for a long time so lets see....totally happy to be proven wrong.

I just wouldn't want to miss out on the experience I ideally want for the what if's..but if there was any risks pointed out beforehand I would of course play it safe... xx

I often find myself re-visiting the idea of home birth in my head. I was in hospital last time & hated it, felt really trapped & just wanted to be at home. I was induced so didn't have an option, but the worst part was being on the ward with all the crying babies after (mine 'had' to be woken up to feed) and then despite being told I was fine to go home at 6am having to sit around until 6pm before all the paperwork had been done to allow me to leave. I had a 36hr active labour so was in hospital for 4 days in total- it was just way too long.

On the one hand I think it would be nice to just go to my bed afterwards & not have the stress of hospital, but on the other I think if I do have a normal labour then 1 night in hospital wouldn't be that bad & actually might be helpful to have people on hand to look after the baby while I get some sleep....will prob just bottle it & go to hospital!

Also, can't remember who it was who mentioned heammoraging but all the first time mums I know who had nice home births (only a couple tbh) did end up being rushed to hospital in ambulances straight after for that very reason.

Has anyone had a water birth? I'd ideally like one and am lucky enough that my MLU is situated in the hospital next to the maternity ward so that I can switch to the ward if I need pain relief, I've heard it's more peaceful but none of my colleagues here have had one.

shell i had chicken breast 6 inch on Italian herbs and cheese. After my pret sandwich and cheeseburger

Kikis why no prepacked sandwiches? Waitrose cheese and onion were all that kept me alive in the first few weeks!!

Anyone suffering from heart palpitations? I'm getting them almost daily atm

Sorry that was meant for topmammy

Morning ladies! The hospital stay is the bit I'm dreading the most. I've had a couple of horrible experienced in hospital. At my hospital if you're on the low risk ward you can have a private room for £30 a night, and your partner can stay over. On the high risk ward it's £100 a night + £30 for your partner to stay, but those rooms are allocated on medical need first so might not be available. I have a feeling I'll end up high risk.

All went well at my scan and booking in, they've moved my due date forward by two days, now the 24th. The baby was being a bit tricky with the NT measurement, I had to go for a walk and go to the loo, but she finally managed to measure it and the measurement was good, 1.4mm but obviously need to wait for the bloods too. I still can't quite believe it. I genuinely thought this would never happen.

Yay flipper! That's a good nt

Scottish I love the idea of a water birth and my unit is the same setup as yours. Just hope I can get in the pool then the time is right

scottish I was thinking of a waterbirth also. Need to look into it

I had a waterbirth with my little girl. It was great! I found it relaxing and private. They have a pool on the high risk suite at my hospital so I could use it even though I needed a bit of extra monitoring. I went into it as soon as I arrived at hospital at 8cm and stayed in until the birth 2 hours later. I would thoroughly recommend.

I'd like to investigate water births too. When do we start planning the birth properly? Is it at the 16-week appt or later?

Also, Subway?!?! Yuk!!

Morning ladies. It's my birthday today and last night I was awake quite a bit with weird popping feelings in my womb area. I've had some grumbly feelings as well and thought I had a tummy bug but after a bit of googling I think it be baby movements!? What a nice present if so! has anyone else noticed this at 16 weeks (almost)? X