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hi, im due on the 1st of october with 2nd after 3mcs in the past 18m. anyone else?

Oh whoops I am so sorry to hear your news. What a horrible 2 weeks you are going to have. It is shicking how many people these things happen to istn it. I hope you get lots of support here and in RL, take care of yourself.

Beanie and Mrs I hope you are both doing ok.

Tachimum....a plastic pint glass????????? I feel positively dignified now Still you do eat green and blacks chocolate so that kind of cancels out the wee story

Hi MissNatalie, so nice to see you here. How is it going? I too have veiny boobs, good look eh. Fingers crossed you might not get any other symptoms, although I know it is reassuring to have them. I went through a period of about 6-8 weeks when I was feeling sick all the time and ridiculously tired but I seem to be coming out of it now.

I am shaking my head at the stories of people with 5 & 6 kids, Zephyrcat and Buffy you have my full respect. Just 3 more between you and you could re-enact songs from the Sound of Music

And finally....I had a csection and the more I think about a VBAC the more scared I get. I have lots of family history (which I am sure I will end up boring you all with later) which have convinced me that I will never give birth vaginally. I also think I have a right angled stomach from the section so why potentially mess up my fanjo as well! Oh well, worry about it nearer the time I suppose.

Im away this weekend so have a good weekend everyone.

Hello. DH and I have had an exhausting and scary 24 hours. I started to bleed and get cramps last night just before I went to a work function. It was probably a good thing that I went as it took my mind off things but by the time I got home, there was a lot and DH and I really thought things were over and we cried and cried and neither of us could sleep The bleeding seemed to lessen in the night but I still felt lousy and we both felt resigned to the worst fate. I called the EPU and they booked me in for a scan at 3pm. Both DH and I spent the day under a blanket on the couch, just waiting. The bleeding started again around lunchtime which made us even more anxious. When we got to the EPU, I had drunk so much water that I was in agony and could hardly move. The sonographer actually said she was surprised I could walk and to drink half as much next time. Anyway, the sac was still there, unaffected by the bleed and quite a bit bigger than last week 14mm instead of 11.4mm. We still couldn?t see the yolk, fetal pole or HB but it wasn?t really a good time for an internal scan so we are to go back next Friday to see if anything has changed. She couldn?t work out where the bleeding was coming from; there was no fluid or masses seen. I guess these things can happen. Anyway, safely home and feeling much better about things. I know our chances are still only 50/50 and that the bleed could be related to the pregnancy and that the sac could be growing regardless of a baby but if there?s still hope, I?ll grab it and use it to get me through the next week

Now going to catch up on how you all are?.

Whoops I hope you're feeling ok as can be. You know where I am anytime xx

MrsMcJnr hi honey sound like a horrendous day,, but seems like a postive scan,. fingers crossed,,

i am still having sickness, took ds to a baby dance singing group today and was gagging the whole way through just awfull,,,

but hopefully a good sign, 1 weeek 6 days till next scan very very worried,

hi everyone else, to many to mention all individually but i am keeping a eye on all your posts and have fingers crossed for us all

whoopsfallenoveragain- thinking of u ,, xx

Mrs that sounds like good news to me. My friend had a bleed from a tear inside her uterus and she bled so much that one night she woke up and thought she had wet herself. SHe now had a beautiful healthy 5 month old girl, so bleeing even heavy, isnt always a bad thing. your day sounds terrible and I feel for you and your dh. Both of you take care, Im thinking of you.

Whoops & Mrs Mrs sorry to hear you are having a hard time of it. Her's hoping you get some good news when you go back.

Welcome missnatalie.

I have had a horrendous migraine all day and even threw up with it. Phoned DD's schoool to let them know as I normally go in to help out on a Friday afternoon. About 30 minutes after my phone call they called me to say that DD had fallen over in the playground nad had a nice big egg on her head. THey asked it I could go and get her or did I want the DEputy head to bring her home. I opted fer the latter as we are only five minutes from the school. The pair of us sat carled up on the sofa under a blanket all afternoon. She watched Cbeebies while I dozed.

I hope everyone else is well.

I am going to the Sheffiled Spa meet up this weekend, so won't be on until Sunday night.

Take care all.

I?ve caught up now?

Hello Whoops ? hope the pains have died down and I?m sorry that the scan went the way it did, believe me, I know how it feels. Have faith and hope, a lot of good growing can be done in 2 weeks and if you are anything like me, the positive thinking makes the days easier to get through than considering the dark side. Sending you huge hugs and lots of hope.

Keeza thank you for your nice message yesterday and for giving me hope today ? it did feel like I?d wet myself to be honest LOL at the picture you painted of the state of yourself at the end of your last pregnancy ? bring it on I say! Have a lovely weekend.

Beanie2bump - sorry to hear that you are feeling so sick and tired. Thanks for your post, hope the days pass quickly for you and that you don?t get too anxious. Always here to chat if you need to.

Hey Honeyapple - we spoke too soon about the lack of bleeding didn?t we?! Hey ho. You are always very nice to me

Winnie ? pretty windy here too! thanks for the good wishes. Poor you with the migraine, nasty. Sounds like you and DD had a nice snuggly time though, hope her head isn?t too sore either! Enjoy the spa.

gemmamc ? the whole point of these forums is that we can share whatever we like, I?m sure you?ve never said too much and that what you have said helped other ladies in similar positions.

Buffy ? Liking the sound of the carrot cake more than the coronation chicken what?s a vbac? Glad to hear you have a booking in appointment and a scan booked. I?m still waiting to hear about my booking in appointment but don?t think I?ll chase just yet, could be bad luck.

PolarMummy ? We haven?t told many people but a few that we felt bad about lying to about me not drinking etc. We?ve only said when we thought we wouldn?t get away with it though. We haven?t told family members other than my little sis who we stayed with a few weeks ago because for DH?s family, it?ll be the first grandchild and baby for a long time and we can?t bear to see their disappointment if it all goes wrong after being so excited. My folks are abroad and so it?s easy not to say until it?s much safer to.

Ifm ? thank you for your positive thoughts ? are they still that way after my latest saga?! It must have been awful for you, what you?ve been through. Thank you for re-living it for me, hope it didn?t hurt too much.

Hello Mumpbump ? hope your Mum is feeling much better

Taichimum ? thanks for the thoughts for me The psyche does have a large role to play in symptom spotting I think!

Welcome MissNatalie hope the scan goes well on Thurs and you see the HB .

Ejt ? hello what?s an hbac?

Hello to anyone I?ve missed?

Hello folks, just wanted to send everyone big hugs and positive thoughts.

MrsMc and Whoops, I am thinking of you, hang in there.

vbac viginal birth after csection

Ah, thanks Beanie Needed those hugs thanks PolarMummy

Morning, can I have a moan? I?m feeling really lost and it?s making me grumpy. [scan] After the first scan and the news at that, I put all my books and info about pregnancy away vowing just to take each day as it came but after this second scan, I?m feeling really fed up and deprived of the joy of reading up on what is happening in my body and to my baby. As it?s my first pregnancy, I?m so interested in all that but just don?t feel I can relate it all to me at the moment. I haven?t got a clue what is going on/meant to be going on due to my dates and measurements not matching. I am 8+6 today based on my probable OV and 9+2 based on LMP and have known about the pregnancy for over 5 weeks, which feels like an age. Has anyone else felt like this? Thanks for listening

whoopsfallenoveragain...I am sorry to hear about this. Take good care of yourself in the next 2 weeks. Good luck

MrsMcJr - - sounds like you had a pretty scary experience. I am crossing fingers and thinking about you.

missnatalie - welcome!

Everybody else, I hope you have a nice and relaxing weekend free from gagging or too much knicker checking

Is anybody feeling faint at times? I was walking in the street the other day and after coughing quote heavily (have a cold) I saw lots of little stars and had to lean against a lampost in case I fainted (I didn't). Mind you, I tend to have low blood pressure so this kind of things used to occasionally happen when I wasn't pregnant. Just wondering if anyone else has this, or should I call the GP?

Yesterday I was really busy with lots of things and I enjoyed the fact that I forgot for a few hours that I am pregnant, so I stopped worrying too! I guess that's one of the tricks to reduce the worry - although it's hard to be busy when you are also getting tired very easily.

Gemmac, I keep feeling faint too, particularly after walking up stairs. It's quite a common pg symptom but if you're worried it might be worth talking to the GP. I think it's because you grow extra blood vessels etc and it takes a while for the volume of blood in your system to increase to fit. Are you taking your vitamins? I always get dizzy before AF because I am borderline anaemic, so I'm taking my Pregnacare (even though they make me feel nauseous). Tried taking them at night but got very very vivid dreams!

As for cravings, I think someone mentioned fish in tomato sauce. I'd forgotten that one! I got it last time but not this time. So far, I just seem to be craving beef-flavoured crisps. I didn't think it was a craving until I realised I'd had a packet every day this week and don't normally eat crisps very often at all.

Am also with those of you being snappy at their DHs. God, mine is lucky to be alive! He also wanted me to be 'up for it' the other day. Which part of 'I FEEL CRAP' does he not understand?! lol

Just find it annoying that I don't get cut any slack for being pg as yet. Almost 2-year-old DD, full-time job, and pg - and he still expects me to cook every bloody night.

Harrumph!

Don't want this to turn into a 'my DH is crap' thread though - because he isn't really.

Well - best get on... Hope everyone has a great weekend. Will catch up next week.

P.S. If 'vbac' is a vaginal birth after c-section, will I be a 'cbav' then?! Don't know what I'll do if they say I can't have one... I think that's my biggest worry, really - that and being a sphere already. I didn't lose all the baby weight either - but it's not bothering me that much apart from my trews being uncomfortable. I reckon I'll either adjust to my 'matronly' figure at some point, or will go to weightwatchers or somesuch if it annoys me that much. For the time being, I can't wait to have got to the point where people know I'm pg and I can let it all hang out, so to speak!!!

Can we have a poll? who has seen their midwife and had any checks done, like blood pressure etc? I haven't heard a thing from the MW about booking in yet.

hi mrsmcjr,sorry to hear you had a crappy day,hope the scan shows you more next week!will keep fingers crossed for you!

i had blood preessure taken at gps,was low,which explains why ivebeen feeling dizzy!

seeing mw next saturday,and got scan sometime during teh week,have to wait for a ophone call!

Can't keep up with the lightening pace of this thread. Sorry not to reply to all but am short of time.
Mrs M, if it makes you feel any better, my booking in appt is at 16 weeks. Have got a scan at 12 +3 though.
No wonder you feel fed up. This all must be so stressful for you. I think they should do internal scan even if you are bleeding. Don't most people go for early scans because they are bleeding anyway? I know it is all a bit undignified but it is better than being stressed. Sounds like your DH is being supportive so that is good. When we have had some upsetting times it has always made me love mine even more and brings us closer together.

Hi-

I have my 1st midwife appointment in 2 weeks time- when I will be about 8 wks PG. I think it really varies depending on where you live. I was in London for my 2 DC and didnt see a midwife till I was practically giving birth- it was all GP appointments. I was actually quite surprised when I rang my doctor and they told me the midwife would ring me- and then to tell me I'd be booked in so soon.

Last night DP started talking about the baby and what hospital etc... anyway, I told him I wanted to have a home birth- bit worried he would say NO WAY!!!- but actually, he was really excited at the idea. Have no idea how supportive the midwives here will be about home births- I think it depends a lot whether or not the midwife is available at the time to come to your home. Anyone had a homebirth or here? Would love some info.

Went out for a walk today- then got home and had to lie in bed for an hour- this is TOTALLY unlike me! Kids kept coming in and jumping on me though- I think they think I am being a weird at the moment.

The other day DD asked me-
"when are we going to have a real baby?"...
I said maybe we would be in a while...

Hi all,

I've got a rare treat - dh has taken ds to a birthday party - I quite fancied going, but didn't think I'd be that welcome if I threw up all over some poor person's house! Means I have the house to myself, and as I've done my jobs (sorted out our car insurance - saved us £50 too) I'm feeling quite smug (if sick).

It's bizarre, I can't even think about certain foods without gagging - ds loves bananas, and I'm allergic to them. Usually, I can handle them as long as I wash my hands straight away - just recently, I only have to see the damn things and I'm throwing up! DS hasn't been bought any bananas this week!

MrsMc - you are having a harrowing time of it, aren't you. Hopefully things will calm down soon, and the rest of your pregnancy will be boring. I must admit that I feel like I've been pg forever too - time is crawling! Hang on in there ....

p.s. hbac is home birth after caesarian - which from experiences so far is only to be attempted if you can stomach a fight! I think I've mellowed this year - this time last year, there was no way on this earth I would ever give birth in a hospital unless in serious need - now, since I've had counselling to deal with ptsd, it seems a lot more do-able - although they'll not be strapping me to the bleeding bed - and as for inducing me - not a chance - they come near me with that and I'll be suing for assault!

buffy & gemmamc - I'm a low bp sufferer too - and have been really dizzy (though not so much after acupuncture) It sucks!

Verso - cbavb why not indeed?

honeyapple - ds said to me in all seriousness the other day 'mam, can we have a baby?' I made all sorts of 'maybe no, maybe yes' noises .... won't be telling him for a good while yet though - this one is due around his birthday, and if I let him know now, he'll be unbearable!

As for checks ... I saw my GP at 4+2, had my pre-booking appointment at 4+6, an early scan at 6+6 and my booking appointment at 7+4. My dating scan will be at 12+2 - seems eons away just now though!

As a family, we've had some really bad news in the past 24 hours - dh's cousin (his nearest thing to a brother he has, he was more or less brought up with him) has known since just after Christmas that he has a brain tumour - and found out yesterday that it's both aggressive an inoperable. Things are not looking at all good - they may be able to give him chemo, but it's unlikely. He's only early 40s and has 2 teenage sons amd a partner who loves him dearly. If you are the praying kind, please remember him and his family. DH is taking it really hard. I'm going to put a thread on the bereavement section of the site to ask people's advice as to what to write to them.

Hi ejt-
Sorry to hear about your DH's cousin. That must be really hard- especially when you are feeling excited about the arrival of a new child. I hope the bereavement threads help.

Sorry, what is ptsd? Have you had a home birth then? Sorry if you have already talked about this before- I'm finding it really hard keeping up with everyone on here.

I dont intend to tel DC for a couple of months about being PG. DS is 8yrs old though and not daft! So I dont think I'll be able to hide it for that long.

honeyapple - thanks for your kind words ... dh is going to see his cousin tomorrow - I can't go, as travelling in a car is impossible for me at the mo' - it's really sad, as we wanted to ask him to be godfather to our 2nd child - the thought they he may not be around to do the job makes me really sad.

ptsd = post-traumatic stress disorder. Usually something you think about where wars and other massive events are concerned - but for me it was ds's birth ... which was a living nightmare ending up in a c section. When I was pg last year (sadly mc x 2), I started to get nightmares and flashbacks about ds's birth - and was referred to the midwifery counselling service. As it turned out, I mc too, and I found the counselling really helped me come to terms with the really traumatic 2nd mc I had as well, as helping me lay the ghosts of ds's birth to rest. I haven't had anything like that yet this time around, but if I do I'll be back to the counsellor ...

right, going to go and bump the thread asking for advice on what to write in a letter to explain why I'm not there too tomorrow...

take care all.

ejt

Gosh ejt- you have been through it. I really hope this PG is totally straight forward and you have a great natural birth. My birth experience with DS was not the best, but fortunately I then had a very positive experience with DD.

thanks honeyapple - it's good to know that it is possible to have a positive birth experience after a horrible one!

Yes! Absolutely! I think it is such a shock to your mind and body the first time, but the 2nd time- your body is better prepared. My mum and my sister both had good VDs after emergency CS.

eijt -my birth experience sounds similar to yours. Failed induction, complete nightmare horror story 18 hours ending in c-section. I have thought about counselling and hearing your experience I might just do that. To help I have already fought hard to change hospitals and succeeded. Different surroundings and people will really help I think and for this reason I too have mellowed about the hospital idea and am hoping for a hospital water birth. I agree no strapping to bed and definately no induction. If they want to induce me I will fight hard not to, but will have an elective c-section if they refuse. I'm not doing that again for anything.

Honeyapple, I had planned a home birth. It is easy where I am in London, but might be more tricky in other places as a lot of hospitals do not employ enough midwives to cope with the rise in home birth requests.If you manage to get it approved, you get the best midwives too as they only send really experienced ones to home births and you get two. What a luxury. Some will even provide a birth pool and you just buy a liner. Midwives will come round and visit about 37 weeks and give you a home birth pack full of stuff they need really, but just so you are ready to go.They talk about your birth plan and tell you how to prepare the house. It all sounded great. They told me they would clean up everything after while I had a bath, make tea and toast for us, tuck us all up in bed together and then leave. I wish it had happened
The reason it did not is that my waters broke but after two days I had not gone into labour. This is rare so I think I was just unlucky. I also think if they had let me go for a few more days labour would have started. However, there is a risk of infection once your waters are comprimised and so they insisted I went in to be induced after two days.
Eijt -Would love an HBAC -is that not complete heresy in medical terms?