We're handholding for the newly graduated viroids and handing out hooyahs to badly behaved miroids. Between womble pains and boobs with veins, some of us are still managing to shag! It's JS Grads 47!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 47th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 46th grads thread is here

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 60th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Here is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates.

Noooooo fuzzy I'm not ready!! I'm only at 7cm on the epi no! And the baby is only about 5 and half lbs atm. It needs to stay put!

I wasn't ready either lil and hadn't even begun reading my hypnobirthing book, unpacked the car seat or written my birth plan. Annoyingly DD had made up her mind though and proceeded regardless!

Do you really think labour has begun?

No I don't think so. I think it's wishful thinking. It's the second time it's happened and my back has been playing up a bitire the last few days so maybe things could be happening but I'm not that lucky!

DD was due the day before your due date and she came along a fortnight early...

thanks for the link, lil - looks really helpful!

Off to my cousin's wedding today, weather is looking a bit dubious... Anyone else got fun weekend plans?

fuzzy stop! You're getting me excited

Eek sock not wedding weather but hopefully it will go well anyway for them.

Feeling v sulky today. My brother has booked a holiday for the date I've booked christening and has just realised. Not a holiday they've had to pay for, they are just tagging along on her Bros holiday for the weekend for free as there is a spare room where they are. I'm trying to change it to the weekend after but not sure I'm going to be able to. Really angry with them as I've been Saying for months the christening would be late July/early august! I think I'm probably being oversensitive as it's more than a christening to me. It's a celebration of what we thought we'd never have in my head. And I can't stuff cake to make myself feel better.

On the up side the nursery is completely finished and the cot and crib are made up with bedding ready and raring to go

Just checked out the stats list...have we heard from disco or feathered?

Hows everyone doing? Ive had my best friends from home staying for the weekend and feeling much more cheerful. Also had a really good day food wise and eaten my first full meal since getting preg! Happy days.

Eeek lil! Any more pains? I'm worried about early labour as in laws will be coming over for a visit and will only leave when I'm about 37 and a half weeks....i do not want to have a baby with them here! Unlikely though I guess.

Lil I think Feathered has commented on the FB group. Really hope things work out for the Christening.

Glad you are feeling more cheerful Canters and I hope you can start having lots of full meals now.

Wedding was lovely, though the weather did mean we had to spend the whole reception inside and couldn't really go out in the venue's lovely grounds. It was the first time I'd seen lots of the extended family since we "went public" with my pregnancy, so lots of nice congratulations etc! And DH got tired and bailed out of the evening party bit before I was ready to!

Now frantically trying to sort out all the endless faffy paperwork for my upcoming appraisal...

Lil I used to get periody type pains in my pelvis if I over did it. I found lying down for 15 - 3o mins made it big off. Talked to midwife and she said it was basically my body yelling at me to slow down. also had horrific back ache from like 32 weeks

Girl-bees for both Feathered and Disco. It has been a busy week!

Glad you have got your nursery sorted out Lil. We still need to give ours a lick of paint and a new carpet but we are planning to keep little yoga in with us for a few months and take our time with it. Hopefully your brother will be able to attend the christening but even if he doesn't it is not necessarily a sign that he is not excited and happy for you.

Glad you didn't get too tired at the wedding Sock.

I've been getting very mild period pains for about two weeks now but as they have yet to intensify, I am just taking it as a sign that my body is getting ready in at its own time and pace.

Eek that means I'm now 3rd!! terrifying!

lil sorry about your brother, is it a definite that he won't be able to make the christening?

Have had a hard couple of weeks over here... First with my gran passing suddenly, and her funeral. Then dp's uncle died. And we found out dp isn't eligible for and paternity leave at all... Luckily he can take unpaid leave but it will do us in financially if we're being realistic... And then we had a call from dp's aunt who is worried about his mum and thinks we need to take her to the doctors and ask for a referral to a geriatrician about possible dementia. All whilst trying to sort out the house and unpack properly and get organised before the baby arrives... not a great couple of weeks!

On the plus side, we are both really enjoying NCT; the other couples are all lovely, and our course leader isn't preachy about how things should be done.

We've got another growth scan this Thursday, hopefully babybeckett is still on the 10th centile- they said last time if he's still following that line they probably won't see us again for a month instead of 2 weekly...

Sorry for the me me me post viroids... Apparently I needed to vent some! Hope everything is okay with you all

Sounds like you have had a very topsy-turvey few weeks Kate. I hope baby Beckett growth keeps steady to give you one less worry. Glad you are enjoying nct. I found my nct leader was presenting us with options more than preaching as well.

I had a tour of the birth centre yesterday and really hope I end up delivering there. They definitely encourage a more natural approach (with G&a and pethidine if you want it). Gx for no complications developing in the next few days or weeks that would prevent it.

Oh Kate you really are going through it. Hope things start to get easier and the aunt is just being overcautious.

Country the latest round of cramping was 4am this morning lying in bed.... and I sit at a desk all day for work so not really over doing it physically. Need to step up the walking and ball bouncing now I'm off work though.

First day of mat leave and I've had the worst sleep of my life. It's like a gift because I can nap!

Yoga if we hadn't done it before baby arrives it would never have got done! We've decorated our entire house except the hall stairs and landing since we moved in last May. This week the kitchen and bathroom should be finished and dh will finish painting utility and downstairs loo this weekend. Then it's just silly things like putting pictures and mirrors up left to do. Oh and the big clean! I can't wait for the work to finish so the house can feel properly clean again!

Congrats feathered and Disco! Whoop whoop!

Periody pains sound like a good sign Yoga, fingers crossed!

Oh dear Kate, sounds like a horrible few weeks –I hope things start to get better for you and scan goes well on Thursday and like Lil said, hope DH's aunt is being overcautious too. That's not a phone call you needed to hear at the moment but I guess it's better to investigate these things even if scary.

It's something that runs in our family and I do find myself symptom spotting with my own mum/auntie. Any mix up about dates or arrangements makes me think what if ... but actually so far I think they are OK, just me being Mrs Paranoid.

Glad NCT is going well, I wonder if we have the same course leader?

That's poop about paternity pay –we found out DH gets one week's pay but the second is statutory pay, £130 or similar. This just seems stingy to me, would it break the company to just pay full wages for a week? Loosers.

Well done Lil on full home redecoration! We moved in 6 years ago and it's taken that long to get every room sorted. We are now done apart from woodwork in the kitchen –my mission for this evening! :) oh and the kitchen floor needs regrouting but no way am I doing that, DH is being nagged.

Just back in work from holiday today (well, if you can call a few days away in North Wales a holiday.) Basically ate loads, watched DH drink loads and napped. Also managed an excellent face tan, too cold to expose any other body parts though!

Holy crap. Just realised I am fourth on the list now –how did that happen!? Feeling very pregnant now and most clothes have begun to make me look even huger in a very wide way, went out for dinner last night and literally felt like a beach ball afterwards.

The list is getting shorter and shorter! Sorry you've been having such a rough time Kate and I hope the next scan goes ok.

Saw the midwife today, but just for a routine check, so nothing very exciting happened.

Hope everyone is ok, I'm just back from 6 days working in France, often 16 hours days and I struggled so sleep so was constantly knackered. Got dating scan next week and it will be a relief to be more open and talk about it. Got a party on Friday where I need to appear to be drinking but not. Won't be able to get away with saying I'm not drinking. Think I may tell someone so they can take my drinks for me.

Stealth alcohol abstinence Black! I tried that ... my friend noticed immediately! I think in a busy room nobody will notice though, just put in a fake stagger to add to the illusion.

I am getting into the stage of staring longingly at people drinking cold white wine ... with condensation on the side of the glass ... mmm, wine. There will be a bottle chilling ready for July!

Question ... has anyone had or is anyone considering a home birth? It was something I thought about at the beginning but DH was freaked out by the idea ... however, now we've got into thinking about it all and the realities of the hospital environment DH is the one suggesting the idea.

I don't know, I DO really like the idea of being at home for as long as is possible, but knowing about friend's experiences I'm aware there is a relatively high chance of being whisked off to hospital in an ambulance which seems more stressful than going to hospital in the first place. Alos and I would feel forever guilty about taking a risk with the baby if anything went wrong.

Also, I have no idea what labour feels like and although I'd like to believe it'll be like one of the stories in the hypno-birthing book the reality will probably be fairly different screaming for epidurals, opitates etc !

However, I haven't ruled out being at home for the birth. What are others planning and how did you reach that decision? I am very bad at being decisive.

Peenut, a home birth was and is never going to be for me- medic and know too much about what can go wrong- and I just couldn't risk it. However I'm sure if all goes well it would be a wonderful experience, and you probably shouldnt listen to me as I have a childbirth phobia which has got much worse since seeing a live foetus on the 12 week scan.

Has anyone else gone through a phase of feeling really disconnected from their pregnancy? I don't know how else to describe it but I'm finding myself feeling quite blah about the whole thing. I'm hoping my gender scan next weekend will help things but I have a sneaking suspicion its related to birth concerns as above.

Pee I never considered a home birth but my main reason had a lot to do with living in a not very sound proof, mid-terrace house with no curtains in the living room. Birth is one thing thing I don't want to involve my neighbours in .

Canters I don't think I really started feeling connected to the pregnancy until I began to feel kicks around 20 weeks. It felt very early having to tell work when I was around 16 weeks. Even now DH probably talks to my bump more than I do.

Canter's I still don't feel connected at 37+2, but I put that down to self preservation after everything we went through to get here. I'm still terrified it isn't actually going to end the way I want so I think subconsciously I'm not letting myself get too attached.

As for hone birth pee I would've considered it if we lived closer to hospital, but is at least a 25min drive without traffic. That and dh was against it and I got gd anyway so am too high risk. However from the info we got at NCT I don't think you are likely to be transferred. Things aren't more likely to go wrong because you're at home, in fact quite the opposite because you are in your own environment so more relaxed resulting in higher oxytocin and endorphins meaning labour should progress better. That's the theory anyway.

Ha ha! I wouldn't describe our house as sound proof Yoga... our neighbour's house/front door is in the front yard opposite ours! I'm sure in July the windows would have to be open and they'd have the treat of my grunts/shrieks/swearing/parading round the living room naked. We know them quite well but maybe not that well. Nobody needs to see that. Come to think of it, we have no curtains in the room I'd use to squeeze the baby out!

I totally understand Canters, I'm sure if I'd seen actual birthing nightmare scenarios I'd wouldn't even be thinking about it! (Although I know they happen but in my land of unicorns and rainbows I'm in denial) I did meet a midwife at an exercise class who wanted a home birth, which I thought was interesting as she must have seen everything that could possibly go wrong.

With the connection to the bump thing ... you are not alone. I've had weeks of feeling really worried because I didn't feel any sort of maternal longing towards the bump. Then others where I feel really weepy and protective towards it and a bit in love. It really bugs me that so much pregnancy information assumes you are feeling nothing but joy and love at all times, it makes you feel shit if you don't.

I'd quite like my emotions to go back to normal. Last night DH found me sat in the partially finished nursery weeping with the musical mobile on. I don't know really what was the matter ... I think I find myself worrying about absolutely everything, how I'll cope, how DH will cope, if the baby is actually OK etc etc, rather than getting excited at the moment. I just can't get my head around there being an actual BABY at the end of this!

Haven't caught up on thread yet- just had scan and been sent straight up to mat assessment :( babybeckett has dropped below the 10th centile, so now waiting for a consultant to review my scan. The first fucking scan dp couldn't come to. He feels awful for not being here, and I am stuck between reassuring him it's fine, and really really wishing he was here!

Will catch up on thread properly after I've seen the doc...

Hope everything is ok Kate, my experience is that scans aren't that accurate anyway.
Congrats on full term Lil, not long until you meet your baby and can eat cake.
Pee it's worth asking about home birth on the fb group, quite a few viroids have experiences to share. I wouldn't choose it myself because I'm a bit paranoid and wanted all the medical facilities in case of a problem. However, I did end up labouring up to 10cms at home (I didn't know I'd gone so far but I was trying not to go to hospital too early). It's hard to plan because you don't really know how things are progressing until you go but you might find a good combination of home and hospital, especially if you are hypnobirthing. I like the hypno philosophy of not fixating on any particulars about the birth, because so much can change. I guess if you are open to giving birth at home or in hospital that would work well.