due MARCH 2007-thread no ?????

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i cant see a new thread so i thought id start another one!

I was all ready to do LOADS this morning but my banger won't start.

So I'm here wasting time again instead

Last night I was dreaming about really crusty mouldy ripe walk away by themself cheeses. And you were in there Foxy, in an abstract kind of way.

I'm really aware of the baby being bigger now. I know he is head down and can feel him stretch and push against the top with his feet.
Last night every time I sat down everything dislocated and I could hardly walk each time I got up to do something. Was sore too, but ok again this morning.

Diva does the noise fill the whole house or are there quieter rooms you can escape to?

Rosy - oooh what was I doing? Were we eating the smelly cheese together? Hope we both had a glass of wine with it! Do you think you dreamt about the cheese because you can't have it?

The only person I've dreamt about so far on this thread is Kitty - who was tall and skinny in my dream with long wispy hair and slightly hippy, surrounded by children! (ducks and runs away giggling)

That was B4 I saw your DVD kitty

you cant have smelly cheese?oops...

rosy-the computer room is quiet so i ended up in here playing some stupid game till 11.30pm(mn is too quiet at the weekends to be entertaining).but the noise goes all theway up to the top floor back bedrooms.luckilty it didnt wake the lo's this time.

my bp was fine this morning so the headache is probably stress-related or something.the thought of the impending school holidays is too scary.

ooops just saw the time...got to pick up ds2

Moss, if you haven't already gone, have a great time in Chester. I definitely want to go away for a weekend before the baby arrives if possible.

Diva, you poor thing with your BP. Really hope it doesn't get worse and hopefully improves.
And that your karaoke neighbours develop laryngitis any time now... .

Had terrible sleep Friday and Sat. On Sunday for the first time I thought - I don't think I can cope with this, or having a baby, or being even more sleep-deprived come March..... The feeling did pass by about tea-time but it was a bit worrying. I can really see why new mums get PND! I'm trying to do what the books say and use pillows to get comfier but I don't even think it's the bump (cos it's not really big) that is the problem, more just my body being weird. How bad is it to lie on your back at this stage by the way? I often wake up and I am on my back so there's not a lot I can do about that, is there? Is it less bad if your head is propped up a bit, which mine generally is now. Can I just ask all with children, once the baby's actually born, if you got pregnancy insomnia did you find you still had difficulties sleeping even when you in theory could, ie when the baby was asleep? Or are you so knackered you go off instantly!?

LO is tickling my right rib non-stop this morning. It's funny.

Do you think we should open a book on who'll be first to pop? I know Leo has said she'll have to have the twins a bit early so might be a good bet, but somebody could be an earlybird naturally too - just hope it's not me!

28+4

Calli, try putting a pillow underneath your back but to the side. This lets you lie on your back, but not completely flat ifswim.
Another good thing to do is put all your spare blankets and duvets under your sheets. It's soooo comfy and does add extra support.

As far as preg insomnia and after is concerned in my experience I have never slept soundly all the time the babies were feeding during the night, but especially during the first 2 months. I have always had then sleep next to me for ease of feeding and I find I sleep very lightly indeed. Infact I still do, which is so annoying, but I think that's part of being a mother (sorry)

Callie - I also sleep with newborns next to me - for the first 6 months actually, for ease of feeding. Dh has to sleep elsewhere for a while .

I have to say that our babies have always slept well during the night, only waking to feed, which gets less frequent as their tummies grow bigger and they can hold more milk. When baby is born you need to nap during the day when you can, to make sure you get enough rest.

Being PG though is unique in the amount of discomfort it gives you. If its not needing a wee, then its a wriggly bump keeping you awake.

Callie -I am getting used to functioning on 5 hours a night's sleep, I just dreading having to step it up a gear come march! But come 9pm I do turn into a very angry person. But DH is learning.

Diva - I hope they stop their wailing. My neighbour likes to listen to pan pipe version of easy listening "classics". Luckily only during the day at the moment, I feel sorry for the dog when he's at home alone, when he's not at work with me, their is only so many times you can bare "raindrops keep falling on my head". But seriously, I hope something happens in your favour.

Lunar - I hope you start to feel better and work stop being ass hats to you soon. Not a fun time for you at the moment, but bless your DS. May find out about aquanaetal at Warwick pool for the new year... If you fancy a splash around.

Have a good one Moss! Our dog, Scooby, Loves the kennels. It broke my heart the first time we left him there, but he didn't seem in the slightest bit bothered and looked rather happy to be going!

well, in a week we'll be "enjoying" christmas, I reckon it will take me hours to eat my dinner as there just seems very little room in my tummy for anything else but LO at the moment, Must remember to take gaviscon to MIL's!

oh, and we so underestimated the size of our tree this year.. or thought our lounge was bigger than it is! our tree is rather rotund! 5ft tall and about 30ft wide! LOL, no room for anything else but tree!

Amie your tree sounds luscious. Next year I want a big massive real one that fills the room!

Fox I don't remember us eating the cheese, I think we were just drooling and dribbling over it, slurp....ooh I'd love to scoff some with a glass of wine.

I co-slept with dd from birth, then there was all this advice about not co-sleeping so started with cot for ds2 but at age 1 brought him in with me for about ten months because his sleeping was a disaster with the excema problem. Not sure how to approach things this time....I want one of those babies that sleeps through from a really early age!

Hi everyone!

Thank god term's finished. I'll have to go back in January, but only in a supervisory capacity. Let the good times begin...

Lol at your tree Amie. We got ours yesterday. It's 7', and quite wide. DH got in a right flap because he tried to stand it in a really flimsy pot. When he eventually got it upright, we decorated it, and it waited until we'd finished to fall over! Being the hormonal mess that I am, I burst into tears, which DH took as a personal criticism. [sigh]

All is well now. The tree's in a bigger pot, I've gained a (probably temporary) sense of persepective & DH is in Paris for his work Christmas Do (alright for some).

I feel like I've got permanent PMT at the moment. Has anyone else turned into a raving lunatic? I want my right mind back, please. Poor DH...

Dolly: I shall text you when I finish mucking around on the net! Hope you're better.

Sorry to hear some of your neighbours are a pain. The neighbours we've got now are lovely, but DH used to have studio flat, and for the last few months he lived there a girl moved in to the flat above his who tramped aroud in platform heels on the very thin floor, came back drunk and rowdy at about 2am every day and played early Madonna at full blast until about 4. When we asked her to turn it down, we were informed that if we didn't like listening to bloody 'Like A Virgin' at 3am on a Tuesday we should move to an old people's home.

She was quite overweight with a turned-up nose and big nostrils.

We called her Pig In Space.

DH pointed out that I've got stretch-marks yesterday (a fact of which I was blissfully unaware). They're on the sides of my tummy. I'm thinking of them as battle-scars, and am suitably proud.

Pinkranger - wow - what fantastic news! Both you and Trace are back in the saddle - hooray! Really, really pleased for you.

EDD 3/3
29+1
Boy

rosy-those type of babies are only achieved by starting bedtime routines at birth and always putting the baby down awake at the same time each night IME.dd2 slept through from 3 months,but was only waking for one night feed then straight back to sleep from about 6 weeks.i decided after having ds1 in the bed with me from 2 weeks old till 4.5 years old that i was never going to co-sleep again.

I reckon it's also a case of you get what you're given, some are live wires, some sleep and sleep. Whenever mine are born I cross my fingers and toes really well and just wait.........

It's pot luck as far as the sleeping goes I'm sure. I remember ds sleeping (if I was lucky) from 8pm-6am by the time he was about 1, and only sleeping for about a 2 hours at most in the day, whereas one of his contemporaries was sleeping 6pm-8am, with another 4 hours of naps in beween. So ds was awake for twice as long each day! If it happens to you just think positive and remind yourself that they're cramming twice as much life experience into those first few months and they'll benefit from it eventually. (She says wondering what's in store given that this bump is even wrigglier than the last one was at this stage!).

A bit of a result today with work - not only had doctors advice to not go on the long trip they had planned for me later in the week, which they now don't have much choice but to go along with, but they're also talking about recruiting someone temporarily from the uk to cover for me, so much more likely I'll still have a job aferwards. Got antibiotics from the doc too, so hopefully things will start to improve on that front too before long.

Amie - someone else to go along with is just what I need to make sure I do go to the aquanatal so I might just take you up on that!

Callie - my mom always reckons sleeplessness in pg is simply training for having a newborn!

I am resigned to poor sleep here, either I wake needing the loo, DH wakes me getting in from a xmas do or DS wakes me.

DS has a cough and a temp so last night was particularly bad. Been to the docs so now have the challenge of getting the antibiotics down him.
I didn't cosleep when he was small and only do so now when he's sick. I can't sleep properly with LOs in the bed.

hi guys
sorry, I haven't had time to read the messages but will try to later. things are a bit hellish round here right now. my mum has a malignant melanoma and is having some of her lymph glands tested to see if it has spread on 27th. fingers crossed not but it is not a totally early stages cancer and sounds very scary. I'm a bit freaked out, you can imagine.
also not helped as my gdad was diagnosed with motor neurone disease a month ago, he comes out of hospital in a week's time, so someone's got to sort out his care too, so my dad is struggling a bit under all the pressure
love to you all, hope you're all ok

Morocco - really, really sorry to hear about your mum. I hope she gets the best results possible back from the tests. That's a nightmare thing to happen anytime but especially when you're pregnant and just before Christmas. Keep us informed.

On the sleeping front, it is comforting to hear everyone else seems to be in the same boat. I know what you mean about learning to operate on much less sleep. I've had to do that quite a bit in the past few years anyway with my weird work pattern, which I think is a good thing - if I'd done this when I was younger and working normal hours, I seriously would have thought I was being tortured!

Boo, exactly the same thing happened to my colleague with her tree - also after the decs were on it.

Lunar, great news about your work backing off - I hope things continue to get better for you.

Off to finishing writing my Christmas cards - last post tomorrow isn't it??

Morocco, so so sorry about your mum. It must be a really scary time you all. I can't imagine what you must be feeling now. Fingers crossed for the 27th.

morocco-hope everything turns out ok for your mum.what a nightmare for you all at this time of year.

callie-i think even the broken sleep you get with a newborn is better then the uncomfortable horribleness of this stage of pregnancy.theres no escaping atm,its not like you can ask somebody else to take over for an hour while you get your head down.i always find that when i eventually manage to get comfy,i need a wee.and dp keeps calling me a fidgeti said he would be fidgety if he had a small person growing inside him

i cant sleep with a lo in the bed either,ive tried putting ds2 in with me when hes got up at 5am but he wont settle,hes just not used to it.
mine have all stopped having daytime naps by about 18 months,and the dds havent really taken to daytime napping atall anyway(dd2 sleeps for an hour after lunch at the most),thats why i like to get them in a 7pm bedtime routine from the start.

Morocco, will be thinking about you and your family, its not going to be a very relaxing christmas for you! I hope you get some good news.

Diva that sounds like a good plan. I have the baby whisperer book which might help me, though everytime I read it I feel bad for being an 'accidental' parent
Though the whole excema thing messes things up because ds2 is the most placid, easy going child but he needed treated through the night when younger and I guess this baby is likely to have excema too for the first couple of years.
I am really going to try let the baby learn to go to sleep himself if possible. Trouble is when breast feeding it always knocks them off to sleep and then they get used to being breast fed to sleep...sigh. You'd think by my fourth I'd have it all worked out by now!

28wks2 (boy)

Hi - just a quickie as in a meeting at 10am

Morocco - just want to say I'm really sorry about your Mum and Dad, that's awful for you. Keeping fingers crossed for your poor Mum, what a worry, and for your Dad too

I'm feeling very "Bah Humbug" today. I've been letting nearest and dearest know that if anyone comes to me now wanting me to solve a problem that:
A) They could solve themselves if they could be arsed
B) Could actually wait because it is not actually important atall
Then I might have to knock some teeth out
The kids are so tired they didn't even want to go to the school parties today, dd2 has bad earache and has to go to the dr's. Whoever designed the dates for this term needs to be shot, stupid *

School and nursery finishes on Friday here. Back on the 8th January. I am looking forward to having them off...lazy mornings. Looks like I won't have dh around though, its his busy time at the restaurant. So I'm a bit sad about that. No point us going to Cork either, when he's busy we won't see him. So I am just going to enjoy the kids and my family 'alone'. But I'll be having a jolly christmas and I now its a really painful time for loads of people.

Hi everyone

It is still pouring down with rain in the tropics.

Sorry to hear about your parent's ill health Morocco ... do they live near you ?

All set for christmas here and quite looking forward to it and it passing, if you know what I mean ! Have friends arriving on Boxing day, bringing mince pies and other goodies.... hooray .

Starting to pack up the house and have spent most of the last week wiping mildew off our possessions. Nice.

Sorry to hear you DH will be working hard over Christmas Rosie ..as you say, you just have to get on and enjoy what you have !!

boy 28 + 2

rosy-i only bf ds1,which put me off for life.its easier to get bottle fed babies into a routine,i sort of discouraged the feeding on demand from quite an early age.

kitty-are you usually the sort of person who finds it hard to say no?sound like people are very demanding of you,when youve already got enough on your plate!

my kids finish tomorrow.i saw my councellor this morning and she suggested i plan some activities for them...like 'arts and crafts'.i pointed out that no matter what they are doing,if they are in the same room for more than 5 minutes they are guaranteed to start fighting.

27+6

Yeah breast feeding is definately a big commitment. It takes a long time, I find I seem to be feeding constantly and I get SO hungry and thirsty, far more than when pregnant. But I wouldn't do it any other way, though by ten months I have to wean them cuz its doing my head in by then! Some friends and family feed them happily for years though.
Kids always fight my sis swears by ignoring it and letting them deal with it themselves. She tells them she doesn't want to know!
Get yourself some big ear muffs Diva, and sing lalala. Then you won't be able to hear the neighbours or the children

Diva, I've started doing family meetings with mine. It's helping 'cos if we all agree areas that need addressing, say 2 or 3 a week and then when they break the rules which we've all discussed and agreed on and can say "but you said you weren't going to do that" etc, etc. Progress is slow, but it's a lot better than it was.