February 2016 Halfway mark: Flutters into kicks into thwacks!

[haquoi123]

New thread, heeeeeeere we go!!

No one's tried to touch my bump yet. I was out on Saturday night and one woman there was rubbing another friend's bump all night. I was horrified and made sure I was a safe distance from the bump-rubber at all times!

I've had a couple of bump rubs a month ago and to my surprise quite liked it (I thought I'd be a hand smacker). At the same time, I was only just beginning to show and we hadn't told anyone so I was quite excited someone had noticed. Not sure if accept it now. Tbh now, I get so cross when people say 'oh you're pregnant, it's going to be awful when you get really big,' or 'you just wait for labour, ha!' or they try and tell me what labour is like. It's infuriating! a) I'm trying to keep positive and not freak out as it is, and b) of course I went through labour you insensitive arse, c) mother of a dead child here, just be happy I'm getting another chance! I tell them just as much as well. Possibly why no more bump rubs!

thanks everyone for the single parent support

calypso I think you are incredibly strong and a fantastic role model for your child. They are lucky to have you

haquoi people love to be the harbingers of doom, don't they?

Someone (in fact the bump rubbing individual of my previous post) after a checking that this baby was planned told me I must be "fucking mad" and "no way would she do another baby at our age let alone two" because of what a "fucking nightmare" it would be.

Eh, myob bitch???

Urgh, all those sleepless nights again.

Your youngest is at school full time now, you're free!

(To DH) Your eldest is 13, why start again?!

DH doesn't sleep because he's still fucking traumatised from waking up to find his 4 week old DS dead, yes his only (living) son is 13, and how is that relevant? Yes DD is in school, and I should have had a baby in August but we lost it.

Fucking fuck off, basically.

Till there with you in spirit telling them to fuck the fuck off.

Wow there are some really insensitive people out there :( we've not had anything that horrible said to us.

The worst one was: well thats you shirking getting a job for another 4 years

No, I don't work. Yes, DH does. Yes we rely on Tax Credits to a certain extent.

My ExDP gives me a good amount of child support because even though we split up, he wanted me to be able to continue being a SAHM. Also, paying for full time childcare for 2 babies would having been impossible for me.

DHs Mum stayed at home till the youngest was 11 and he'd like me to do the same, if circumstances allow and if I actually want to.

Why do some people feel they have to tell me how awful being a parent is? It's my first time doing this and a lot of people look at me like I'm an idiot for wanting children. I'm in a stable loving relationship, been married for 3 1/2 years, sorted out our house so why would we be so stupid to 'ruin it all' with a baby!

MYOB!!

Even my mum and sis keep telling me how difficult it will be and life will never be the same again. As if that had never occurred to me!!

till people are just arseholes, aren't they? I've had (polite) arguments with both men (?!) and women who try to convince me that hypnobirthing won't changing anything and actually you zone out in labour so anything bad just passes you by... And they just don't listen to my response that I zoned out in my labour and did really fucking well despite knowing my baby wouldn't survive and yet, hmm, what's this ptsd doing here?? Fuck off and don't argue with me! I've decided to get tough and really shame anyone who does that again.

Just had mouth watering moment where I managed to eat what my body wanted for once, drool! I feel like getting naked and dancing in a circle! Woo! Instead I have to dash off to work.

Also, just (re)discovered the city versa gt and Omg the folding function!! Has anyone used it? Just knocked britax smile off the top spot on my list!

I used Natal Hypnotherapy with my 3rd and I'm using it again this time. It keeps me calm and focused. It didn't help much with pain but seeing as I can't have any pain relief and I labour fast, it really works for me.

Also, why do people feel the need to tell horror stories?! My first birth resulted in PTSD and PNP, but I never ever go into detail, especially with first timers. I focus on my non traumatic but early induced with my 2nd and my stupidly fast 3rd labour because birth is scary anyway and I don't feel the need to scaremonger.

Oh life will be different, in a glorious way! I despise the negative nancies. Oh they cry all night, they never sleep... Yada yada. They're also wrinkly and adorable and smell amazing and make noises other than crying and they smile at you and smush their faces into your neck and grab you with their chubby hands... Nobody ever tells you the good stuff!

They are so warm when they're in their little sleepsuits, so nice to scoop into your arms. Their little lips do the sucking motion when they're asleep. They also 'melt' into sleep. There are so many moments that are proper stirring moments. It's truly awesome that these little lives are so perfect, complete and utterly adore you as their mum.

DD1 used to do that ^ a lot. The moro reflex. She was a really skinny, short, slightly prem baby and she'd startle herself quite a lot. So frickin cute.

When they are breastfeeding and do the long slow jaw movements. Then have a milk drunk face after.

They trump really loud, and then cry become they've made themselves jump! yes I'm that chidish

DNeph used to do this really scrunched up face that made him look really angry, adorable on a newborn.

Theres many reasons I'm doing this for a 4th time

I think some people seem to love to be negative and hate it when other people aren't. One of my 'friends' always talked about how I had a hard time with my first, but actually I did hypnotherapy and although it wasn't quite the water birth I planned I still felt it was a good experience. She seems to want it to be bad! And of course your life is never the same again but in so many great ways, my ds (3) just gave me a big kiss on the lips and in my hormonal state I couldcry at how cute he is and how much I love him.

No bumo rubbing from people to me yet... Feel a bit left out ha!

Ordered the mongan method hypnobirthing book - just started it. Seems interesting. Has anyone else read it?

ratty I'm on the Katherine Graves version, but she studied with Mongan so it's very similar (although they're now apparently enemies...!) I think the general idea of it is fantastic as long as it works for you, if that makes sense?

Anyone been worried about reduced movements? Baby is normally very active but not felt much from her today but feel it's too early to monitor.

I've got the Katherine Graves book too, looking forward to reading it but slightly trepidacious!

Jellypi, the last week and a half or so I've had a bad cold and baby definitely hasn't been moving as much- now I'm getting over it, he's wiggling lots more again. It was worrying when there was less kicking though! Some people don't feel any movement at all until 22 weeks or so apparently because of how their baby's lying etc, maybe yours has moved into a difficult position? But worth calling the midwives if you're worried!

Thanks, my midwife is useless and said if I'm ever concerned to call the hospital but I'm hoping it's just that's she's in a funny position. I'm still getting kicks just less frequent and not as strong. I'm 24+5...

Call if you're worried. I'm hyper sensitive re movements (due to being a long term inpatient with DD1 and reduced movements being a big part of that) but at this stage (22 weeks) its neither here nor there - hardly anything today but yesterday the baby was moving every hour or so I already have an app on my phone to monitor movement and have done since 19 weeks

I've got Ina May Gaskin Childbirth Without Fear ready for this weekend, DDs are at ExDPs and DH will be busy building a walk in wardobe and other bits so I plan to lounge around, reading and playing Skyrim. I've never locked into hypnobirthing beyond having the Natal Hypnotherapy CDs, may have to give those books a read.

I have that Hypnobirthing book (the Mongon one) I must read it.

I also have "Childbirth without Fear" but mine is by Dick Grantly or something, there is a chapter by Ina May in it though, till , I wonder if it's the same book? I remember reading it with DS and it was good, it explained the way that adrenalin can affect labour and so on.

I also read some of Ina May's guide to childbirth which is ok but some of the case studies (in women's own words) were a bit hippy-dippy for me.

Birth Skills by Juju Sundin is another fab book.

Jelly I had hardly any movement on Sunday and was worried, turned out baby had just turned himself round and I couldn't feel his movement, he has now turned himself back round. This morning I had nothing and started to get worried, I poked and prodded like mad trying to wake him up, nothing, really worried, hour later he woke up and started kicking under my ribs.

I was weighed today, my starting weight was 57kg before BFP, today I weigh 72kgs at 23 weeks! I'm only a few kgs off DH now!!! So I've just had a pizza and now I'm going to eat crumble with custard.

I was 11st 2lbs at BFP and at 20 week scan/MW appointment I weighed 11st 8lbs. Dental surgery threw my appetite for a month and its not really recovered since, today for example I've eaten: 3 Weetabix, 2 lemon yogurts, a small cob with chicken and salad, a bag of Pom Bears and 2 Kit Kats. Urgh, not good.

Haha rufus that's the attitude, fuck the weight gain. Ive put on a stone since my bfp and couldn't give a toss. I'll lose it one way or another.