Due March 2007 - Heading for the third trimester

[Booboobedoo]

Thought I'd start a new thread as the other one's about to run out.

Amie, we paid for a private room with ds2 but I missed the fun of other mums!

Rainbow - you're a lot more organised than I am!!

Boo - I bet you anything they typed the account number wrong and it went into some other person's account! That's happened to me before now. It is traceble so don't panic - it hasn't dissappeared

Eids - Hi to your DD 2 and give her a big birthday hug from me

Piffle - glad to hear your pain is gradually reducing. Make sure you take it easy.

Kitty - how are U today?

Thanks for the words of encouragement girls. My only fear is that someone's got hold of the cheque and fiddled it. Don't know what our comeback will be then. Got to wait 7-10 days to get a copy. Am not going to think about it any more.

£134 for NCT Rainbowgirl? Ours cost £200! Plus £39 if you actually want to be a member. (Sod that). We're going for NCT in January - booked in to some classes just across the park from us. I'm sure NHS would be fine, but I don't want to go to the hospital for classes - not relaxing enough.

I met my friend's 3 month old the other day, and she cries a lot. Her first one was really chilled out, and my friend is convinced that this one is more tense because they moved 3-4 weeks before she gave birth. Has anyone else heard any theories about stress in the mother causing stress in the baby? I know cortisol crosses the placenta when you'r stressed, and a certain amount is to be expected.

Piffle: my BF is a doctor, and is very reasuring about paracetamol being safe during pregnancy. Just get yourself through this as best you can.

everything is cheaper out of london i'm finding! yes for the £134 i get NCT membership for a year also, newsletters etc.. not bad really.. i'm nervous about going to the classes alone but they are daytime classes so hopefully won't be all happy clappy couples

Boo don't say that about stress!!!! i've been about the most stressed ever in my life in the past 3 months and i'm hoping for a really, really calm baby boy to complement my manic dd .. i'm relying on the old adage about 2nd babies being easier (any truth in this anyone?) .. i think you can get too worked up about the effects of stress, i also think that the human body works wonders, i mean, by rights, i should be throwing myself off a bridge the way i feel so broken hearted, but some days, despite everything, i feel almost, dare i say it, happy? i think you just don't get quite so stressed when you are pg. i think your body doesn't allow it.

i try and do 10 - 15 minutes a day of really positive, focused visualisation / relaxation with the baby - hands on my belly - talking or singing to him, just reassuring him i am there and that i love him i think this kind of positive affirmation can also counter the effects of stress...

have i convinced myself yet?!

Rainbow girl all that singing is bound to counteract the stress! You good mummy!

Oh for 10-15 minutes a day to do anything other than work. My workload has gone crazy this year (think 70+ hours a week as normal) - and now they've just told me that my deadline for NEXT Friday for a project I'm supposed to be doing on top of that has been moved back a week. No sleep for me for the next couple of nights then. Guess I shouldn't be on here now, but I'm still too angry at them dumping this on me to actually get on with making any rational decisions right now.

Booboobedoo / Rainbowgirl do you think I should sign up for NCT classes? They don't do them in St Helens any more, so my nearest classes are Liverpool or Warrington, bit of a trek and it means I'm less likely to meet other local Mums-to-be. But are they of any use other than that?

LunarSea you poor thing that does sound like a long day I thought I was working for Marley & Scrooge but I'm only on about fifty hours a week!

Do you plan to go back to work for them after your leave? My employers' attitude was one of the main reasons I have decided there is no way in the world I will come back here. After my six months I'll look for part time locally.

[Would love to be a SAHM but can't afford it - said this to DH once and he nearly cried he said he felt so guilty he didn't earn enough god I felt awful I hadn't meant it like that at all]!

missmoss - My Dh feels the same. I actually earn more than him and it makes him feel very inadequate. Makes me feel quite Butch tho'!!

Rainbow - I think you need a LOT of stress for it for affect the baby. My experience is the second child is a lot lower maintenance than the first, as the first is kind of spoilt by having you to themselves.

Kitty - e-mailed you earlier but it bounced back, have just tried again

Ooh, sorry Rainbow girl - that was thoughtless of me! My friend thinks it's cause she had the stress of the house-move so close to the birth, but it may well be nothing to do with it!

Msrlmoss: this is my first so I've never been to classes before - one of the others would know more than me. However, have heard that the main thing people seem to get out of these classes is making friends locally, so maybe you'd be better off just going to your closest one. I'm in London, so have a huge choice locally.

Foxy I'll give it again here just with my very slow and inept texting I wrote it wrong [email protected]. No email there yet.

yaaaaaaaaah bllks, first time I've really got on here for ages (although I do think about you all quite often), just wrote a really long post and managed to lose the whole thing!!!!

Well, I'll be back later or tomorrow!

The one thing that I have heard upon moving here is to sign up with a membership with NCT - a great way to meet local mums - most say they have come out of it with new friends (which I am searching for). I hadn't heard anything about the classes at NCT vs. the ones with NHS - can anyone compare them?

what went wrong with ds2?
maybe stress in the womb lays a part. I rather suspect that is the vibes you give to your baby post birth that actually make the difference. That and the fact some kids are more stressy/hyper than others.

Kitty - will try again or text you Are you around Friday early pm - I could give you a buzz then? I'll only have DD here so it'll be nice and quiet i.e. no bickering in the background

The NCT are great for meeting local Mums with babies the same age as your. I had probs BFing DS so my NCT group was a great source of support. They were terribly, terribly posh, but I think that was just my particular group as I've met loads of NCT members who are normal .

I've only had NHS classes - the NHS post natal group was geat for meeting people and comparing notes, becaise again you get matched with local women with similar age babies.

ps. agree that some kids are more stressy. DS is very highly strung, impatient and has a terrible temper (like his grandad). DD is cmpletely laid back like her Dad

Foxy, yes I should be around then, things change, so I'll keep you posted

hello all.

i went to nhs ante-natal classes with ds1.it was 9 years ago so i cant remember much but i think they were ok apart from giving me the impression all births were pretty straighforward

msmoss-i take it you are from st.helens?most people on here seem to be from london.there was a baby in hospital at hte same time as my dd2 from st.helens and she was a miss moss

boo-hope you get everything sorted.

i found my 2nd child easier but only cos i had to be in charge as ds1 was only 11 months and my life had been controlled by him till then!
i dont know about the stress thing.ive had stress in all my pgs but i suppose the first 2 were worse(in a violent relationship)and ds and dd1 were pretty difficult babies..but i dont know if thats cos i didnt have a clue what i was doing?ds and dd2 have been angelic little stars as babies.ds2 turned into a monster at 2 and im anticipating dd2 will be the same.

23weeks(girl)

Divastrop I do indeed live in St Helens, although I'm a Kirkby girl originally! Yes lots of people here do seem to be from London but I'm not holding it against them .

Actually I lived in London, in the "saff east" as they say for a while about four years ago. Didn't mind it so much but DH loathed it and ended up having a breakdown so we came back up here, as MIL lives in St Helens. I'm glad we did though, 'cos now we actually own a house which is something I thought would never happen in a million years! In an ideal world I always wanted to own a house before I had a baby but I also wanted to have a baby before I got to thirty. This way I will have just about managed it, unless he's late and then I'll be having a very special 30th birthday prezzie!

Harktheheraldfoxessing I earn just less than DH but for far more hours so I don't think I will ever be able to feel "butch"

Hello! Haven't been around for ages as we've had internet trouble at home, I've had work trouble (too much of it), DH is about to be made redundant and it all got a bit too much. Am feeling a bit more sane now though. Deeeeeeeeeeep breaths needed.

HAve only skimmed the last 2 weeks or so, so haven't really got on top of all that's been going on. Hope you're feeling better piffle . Kitty - really feel for you at the moment. Big hugs. Foxy - very touched by your story and by the way you;ve both dealt with it.

SOrry about your money Booboo. Hope it's turned up. Happy birthday to DD, Eidsvold. Hope you're well down under.

Welcome to all the new ladies. Hope everyone is well and happy. Birth - elective section for me if I can persuade the consultant. DD was nearly 10lbs at 41 weeks so am going for the big baby small pelvis option.

Must dash now. Need to do a tesco's shop to arrive tomorrow. Been up with DD since 4.30am and am whacked out. Love to all X

Hello! Haven't been around for ages as we've had internet trouble at home, I've had work trouble (too much of it), DH is about to be made redundant and it all got a bit too much. Am feeling a bit more sane now though. Deeeeeeeeeeep breaths needed.

HAve only skimmed the last 2 weeks or so, so haven't really got on top of all that's been going on. Hope you're feeling better piffle . Kitty - really feel for you at the moment. Big hugs. Foxy - very touched by your story and by the way you;ve both dealt with it.

SOrry about your money Booboo. Hope it's turned up. Happy birthday to DD, Eidsvold. Hope you're well down under.

Welcome to all the new ladies. Hope everyone is well and happy. Birth - elective section for me if I can persuade the consultant. DD was nearly 10lbs at 41 weeks so am going for the big baby small pelvis option.

Must dash now. Need to do a tesco's shop to arrive tomorrow. Been up with DD since 4.30am and am whacked out. Love to all X

doh! No posts for ages then 2 at once! Sorry about that