Due March 2007 - Heading for the third trimester

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Thought I'd start a new thread as the other one's about to run out.

Hi gang

God some of you are having it rough at the moment - sympathy all round to those who need it. Hope the relationships/illnesses/money trouble/stress levels all sort themselves out soon.

I'm writing this in work so better keep it brief, but Amie in answer to your question, I'm a first-timer and I'm planning to do both NHS and NCT classes if I can squeeze them in. I'm signed up for NCT ones in Feb (really hope the baby doesn't come early...), don't know about the NHS ones yet but I'm seeing MW next week so hoping to sort all that kind of stuff out then. Incidentally, my NCT classes will also cost about £134 inc mmbship, but I'm in south Wales so no London premium to pay .

oh i keep thinking i've worked out who people are and then i see more folk who i don't recognise guess there are a lot of women out there having babies huh? hi to everyone i don't know.. well i went away and read about stress in the womb because i got worried (don't blame yourself boo i get worried about everything that's just what i'm like ) and they say that it's to do with levels of cortisol (?) , there was an interesting study done after 9/11 which showed some concrete evidence of babies in womb picking up on mothers post-traumatic stress, but interestingly it showed that before the 3rd trimester there was not much effect, it was as the babies got closer to term that they seemed less 'cocooned' in the womb and more susceptible to the mother's anxieties..

interesting stuff actually..

meanwhile, i shall keep singing

booked my doula today kitty you'll be pleased to know and she is really, really nice and has promised the package that you outlined, all for the bargain price of £250 (those West Country prices again..) so i'm really happy as i can afford that plus the NCT just about!

hope everyone is doin well x

Poor you and your dp Dolly .
Blimely some of us are really up against it at the mo.
Thank heavens we have each other as support. I really do appreciate all the words of kindness and advice I've had from you lot. Just knowing that you're there keeps me grounded and saner than I would otherwise be. so, thankyou

That's SO fab Rainbowgirl. I'm so very pleased for you. it really will make all the difference. Do you feel happier with the birth now that you know you have her as your support?

yep kitty i can't accuse people of blissful happiness now huh .. if you ever want to CAT me feel free by the way

I don't know how really. I would if I knew, I'll have scout around the old MN instructions !!

yes i do! i feel like at the very least, there will be someone there for me and that she will help me get prepared emotionally.. she said she had experience of helping single mums.. i talked to her quite a lot on the phone and started crying but that was just because she was so easy to talk to! it is definitely a relief. this way if dp makes a reappearance it will be a bonus, rather than me hanging on for it or relying on friends who have children/commitments and might let me down.. will take pressure off my mum too who might otherwise (mistakenly) feel obliged to turn up

haha! you just go to contact another talker, but it depends if you've subscribed to it (it's £5 a year or something?) i'm just funny about giving out my email address anywhere on the net that's all, is yours somewhere on this thread tho? if so i'll drop you a line anyway

Doula's say they like to mother the mother. If you have one you feel really comfortable with it is quite an intense relationship for that short period of time. It's strange but you allow yourself to be exposed so that they can look after you and that often means talking about issues that scare and upset you, it's all part of getting ready mentally for the birth. A good birth, as far as I'm concerned is very much a head thing as well as a physical one.

Yes it is , posted at 4.17

Off to bed now, night all xx

night

kitty-i second that(giving birth being as much about the 'head'thing).thats why i hated being drugged up,and found the last 2 so much easier.i kept thinking 'this doesnt hurt as much as its going to,i can cope with this' and before i knew it i was pushing.

seems like alot of people are having troubles with money/work etc here at the mo.so close to christmas as well
i hope everyone can get things sorted before babies start arriving.

diva i'm just hoping that if i can get myself into more of a positive headspace i can deal with whatever the birth brings whether it is a VBAC or (god forbid) another c-section.. this doula will hopefully be a godsend..

how's the packing going? good i hope..

got to head off to bed in a sec, night all xx

ooops .. nobody saw that huh? i changed my name to reply to this really harrowing post, awful when you read how miserable some people are feeling and there is nothing you can do to help, that's when the internet is bad

Rainbow, I did see it being a night hawk as usual and I've just read that thread you were on by coincidence. Oh my god, that poor, poor woman. I seriously hope somebody gets to her before she hurts herself because that's what it sounds like she's going to do. Now am very worried.

wwell good day all round here

get dd1 from kindy to find out - case of slapped cheek and different child - case of head lice - great when one is pregnant. thankfully looking at slapped cheek circumstances - unless the dds come down with it - It will be extremely unlikely that I will contract it. But it can be serious for women less than 20 weeks pregnant ( i am 21 weeks tomorrow) BUT they are contagious before the rash comes out.

Then get dd1 home and find a solitary louse in her hair..... bloody hell - get head lice treatment out thinking better do me as well only to read it can't be used in pregnancy!! I quickly massaged mousse into her hair (it is a natural lotion) and will wash it out later - then hopefully dh can do it next week. Off to buy tea tree shampoo and conditioner for me. Of course this all happens whilst dh is away. Hopefully back tonight.

Hello Rainbow girl (I don't know if we've met before), I too had an emergency cs with ds (a shock as I was the first in my family) and had a really tough recovery. when I got pregnant again I was absolutely determined that I would be able to have a vbac, went through loads of emotional things about the cs with ds. I feel like you, stuck between a wall and a hard place, totally filled with dread of having another cs, but full of fear of something going wrong with a normal birth (even more so as i'm having twins), its one of the worst things about having twins is that the likelyhood of a cs is much higher. But, as Marslady (a lovely mnetter and doula) said, every birth is different - I'm focusing on that and have support from my doctor ot go for a normal birth if possible. Great that you have a doula.

Diva, what happened with the house, I read a bit further down something about boxes - are you moving already??????

What has happened ot Anniediv?

Kitty - my ideal birth would be a water birth (ruled out with twins), I think you just have to be sure your doula knows what she is doing and make sure you have enough information about what to do. wWill be fantastic!
I haven't read far enough back to find out what's going on that is making you so unhappy, but I will do once I've written this.

Its quite quiet in the office at the moment so I'm going to try ot scan back a bit more and catch up on everyone's news.

All seems to be going well here with me. I'm usually in bed and ready to sleep by 9 and try to get a nap during the day as well, the last weeek or so I have been feeling better. Its reassuring to know I'm not he only one who is really tired. Anyone else feeling huge already? Its really strange, i only feel kicking and movement on one side of my belly, I expected to feel more with twins. I guess its just the other one is positioned.

Morning all

Dolly sorry to hear about your and DH's work problems, what crappy timing But its very good to have you back on the thread

Kitty - totally agree about a good birth being as much of a head thing. I think if you feel comfortable & confident you can cope with almost any thing. If you feel stressed it scars the whole experience.

Um - have forgotten what everyone else has said

Oh yeah - am getting [snvy] of your doulas and will deffo see if I can find one.

Just when I thought my money was under control this month, had a note in DS's school bag last night asking for another £60 for Mad Science Club. This terms sessions finish next week, so they're starting a new lot

I cannot deny him, he loves it so much and all his best friend sattend

Lunar - actually got that cheque in the post yesterday (after carrying it round in my bag for 14 hours...). Those masks are selling for £47.45 on MSM shopping!!!!!

Hope evryone is OK this morning

24+4 (boy )

Morning all, Dolly, I can sympathise with you on your dh getting made redundant, mine is too, probably in February. Trying not to worry about it, but sometimes can't help it!

Speaking of NCT/NHS classes, there are no NCT classes in my area (Renfrewshire) so I guess I'll be going to the NHS ones. Have been given a list of classes, but it looks as if you just turn up when you feel like it...is this normal? I thought it would be more of a course type thing. They do a tour of the lovely midwife suite too, which I'll be very sad at, since my silly bmi is too high, I'm classified as a high risk pregnancy. Bah! Really regretting all those years of chinese meals now!

Hope all is well with everyone today, seems that we're getting everything thrown at us during pregnancy time!

Hi

Sorry to hear about all those who are working hard. Sometimes I think employers crank up the workload during pregnancy just to prove a point !!

Lunar - If you like I can post a cheque to you for the mask and you could send it to my friend in Bridgnorth. I am seeing her around xmas - so it can be a xmas present rather than birthday for DS1 . Can you email me with your address and how much money you want and I will post a cheque (or if you have paypal I can pay via that + extra so you don't lose out) . My email is louisearscott at hotmail dot com.

Noodle - does a high BMI make you high risk ? I am sure I am a bit on the large side but no one has told me that makes me high risk !! Sad that you can't go to the midwife led unit .

Eidsvold - I have found that wet combing with conditioner is the only thing that works for nits. When I fostered I seemed to be doing it alot !!

Fox - bless your son and his mad science. My son has been learning about scurvy this week so we have been eating limes with everything !!

Kitty/Rainbow - hope things are clearer on the relationship front and Boo on the cheque front. Banks are a nightmare aren't they... but saying that I got all my bank charges refunded the other day from my reckless days of being a student !!

11/3 (but 1/4 if any government officials are reading this ) boy

I can't believe they pay so much attention to BMI these days!

I was watching a program about it and 12 out of 15 guys on a rugby team, fit, healthy young men, were deemed clinically obese judged on their BMI.

I myself probably, in fact, definatley, have a high BMI, and haven't been told I'll have to do anything different... but going on my past experience of My Midwife, I'm not at all surprised.

Lunar.. your work load sounds hideous! Shame on your employess!

I can't believe they pay so much attention to BMI these days!

I was watching a program about it and 12 out of 15 guys on a rugby team, fit, healthy young men, were deemed clinically obese judged on their BMI.

I myself probably, in fact, definatley, have a high BMI, and haven't been told I'll have to do anything different... but going on my past experience of My Midwife, I'm not at all surprised.

Lunar.. your work load sounds hideous! Shame on your employess!

...stupid internet... LOL!

Laidback - how old are your DS's again? Mine is six and is mad about Dr Who, Club Penguin and science

Ooooh - nits - DS/DD's school has been riddled with them for weeks. Main cuplprit is one girl, who is daugher of someone famous-ish off the telly !

Re. the bank charges, apparently the Consumers Association have an advice booklet on how to write to banks to get them to reverse the charges. I tried to find their website the other day with no luck though