Due March 2007 - Heading for the third trimester

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Thought I'd start a new thread as the other one's about to run out.

Oh kitty congrats on the success of your costume creation!
24 weeks

Kitty - congrats on your tenacles prize! All that creativity paid off and hard work. There is justice in the world

I really want some red wine but have developed this thing called Acne Rosacia, which means I get a spotty red rash on both cheeks when I drink (or the next day). Visualise the archetypal Irish alcoholic with a big red nose - that is actually the same condition and its mainly celts who suffer from it. So where a French alcoholic may look rough, but its us Celts who get the red faces!!!

Very annoying I can assure you . My Mum had it from ages 40-50 and my older sister gets it too. Its also hormone related so should leave me post menopause.

TheBlonde - I forgot to thank you for that MoneyExpert link earlier. I printed off about 10 pages and will write the sample letter to my bank and watch them squirm.

Rosy - you'll have to try and tire DS2 out today won't you? Does he often wake up at night? Mine are being really good at the moment. Or at least, they're good when they're alsleep IFKWIM!

I found both the breathing excercises and the TENS machine really helped me in the early stages of labour. Plus lots of hip wiggling etc which they each you at all of the classes.

Morning everyone, sorry I didn't reply earlier to say a big thanks to everyone for all their help telling me what labour's going to be like!! (I went to bed at half ten on Friday and then had such a full Saturday that I didn't even get chance to log on.)

Callieco I will deffo check out those books, thanks very much!

Harktheheraldfoxessing, I am in St Helens in answer to your question (little town 'bout 30 mins away from Liverpool).

Sorry to hear about people having problems with their mothers! I am estranged from mine so, in a weird way, at least I don't have that to deal with. MIL is brill though and is like an adoptive mother to me, although that does mean that at times she says the kind of insensitive things only a mother would!!

Continuing the weight theme, it is only eleven o'clock and I've already had a deep filled mince pie and a croissant with butter and jam. So you can tell I'm very concerned about the issue!!

Kitty, you've given me hope on the breathing front, thanks for that. Reading one of your posts further back down the list, you said you've got an all-singing, all-dancing birthing pool on order - which one is it and why is it so special? Do I need to think about ordering one now for March?

For all those interested in the chocolate debate (although ignore the guy at the bottom - what does he know?), read this

Foxy - I love the image of hip-wiggling the baby out! That really makes sense actually, I used to find with (vvvvvvvvvvvvv bad) period pain I would do that automatically to try to ease it.

Hi everyone - haven't posted for ages but have been trying to catch up with all new faces... welcome to you all. Thanks for thinking/asking after me rainbow!!

The weight debate... well I'm eating anything with sugar in it and feel awfully guilty after I demolish whole cakes/bars of chocolate - doesn't stop me doing it though! My mum always comments on what I put in my mouth - its annoyed me intensely throughout life! Always promised myself I'll never do it to my dd.

The pain in labour... well, I've never been one to just bite down on a twig and suffer as many of my friends have managed. After disastrous 1st birth and an epidural from the outset for 2nd birth, I know what I'll be gunning for!! Grab the aneasthetist while you can ladies is what I say!!! (bundles of respect to you all who manage without!)

callieco, lol at that article! I'm on my way to the Sunday big shop; I'll have to raid the Asda's chocolate aisles!

Fox, he has never slept well as he used to have excema driving him mad at night. For a long time he slept in with me which was better,then he slept beside dd. A couple of months ago I put them into their own beds but he is used to having contact when he stirs in his sleep. I can't work out how to break this habit! dd gets up once or twice too. I'm up at least 6 times a night...totally exhausted. I'm getting obsessed because its the only aspect of this whole baby lark that I can't cope with! Give me any problem, if I can sleep I'll deal with it! As it is I'm a big wreck of sleep depravation, moan, moan, moan......can't cope...house mess...zzzzzzz

muppet - lol at 'bite down on a twig'. V. funny.

Callieco: good article. The last comment got my goat: "Women should only increase their weight in line with normal recommendations when they are pregnant."

Idiot man. I wish there was some kind of pregnancy simulation machine for men so they could just get an inkling of the lack of control you experience.

Hi Dolly! I was weighed, but it was by a very brusque trainee sonographer, and I don't really know why she did it. I really didn't want to look, but I couldn't stop myself. Next time I'll shut my eyes. Your scan is next week, isn't it?

Re books, I'm only buying stuff about babycare now. I've read so much on MN about birth, and we're doing the NCT classes. I teach people breathing techniques anyway, so I'm not too worried about that. If I need loads of drugs and intervention then so be it. As long as I get my little boy at the end, I don't care.

Happy Sunday everyone - and congratulations kitty on the costume. Bet your DS was chuffed.

EDD 3/3
25 weeks
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Rosy - that sounds rough.

Have you tried letting him sleep with one of your unwashed nighties? Works with puppies .

I'll try anything! Next I'm going to give up and bring them all back into my bed and the new baby too and when dh is around he can sleep in a kiddy bed. That'll teach him for making me pregnant all the time

Though dh sleeps for hours and hours he'll snore through anything! He's coming back this evening and I'm in a jealous huff with him before he even gets here! He won't be sleeping well tonight! Ha ha, think i'll leave him with the kids and go stay with my sister! [twisted evil over tired emoticon]

Kittywits - what a great birht story with your 3rd !

Mrsmoss - I think you have to relax and worry as little as possible about the birth, I should imagine when you get there you will know if you can cope with the pain and your midwife will also know if/when its time for you to have an epidural. Most important thing is to relax.

Rainbow and Boo - so at your mother's sensitivity. Although Rainbow I guess your mother's 'how can you go outside like that' comment was probably a generational thing. My mum (mother of 6) was absolutely shocked and disgusted that my dh liked feeling my belly when I was pregnant with ds, on our wedding day (4 weeks-ish before ds was born) - sorry if you've heard this before, it still upsets me - I was dressed up and ready to go and I was stupid enough to ask my mother 'how do I look', expecting nice mother-to-daughter-on-her-wedding-day comment regardless of what she thought i got 'oh well that's the best we can do' !

Fox, have you heard of Julie Tupler, I think her post pregnancy exercise routine is very good, makes you very aware of your stomach muscles and how to work them. Her books are 'lose your mummy tummy' and 'maternal fitness'.

We moved ds into a bigger bed last night, he was so excited and proud of himself , he slept really well and managed not to fall out. Plan is the twins share his cot to start with, ds is in a new Ikea thing which is bigger and can be a bed or a cot, when the twins are too big to share ds will get another bigger bed so the twins can have a cot each, or we get another ikea cot/bed thing to last them a bit longer. We have decided we are going to try to put all 3 in the same room as soon as the twins are sleeping well at night.

With ds we organised everything about a week before he was born, seems a bit early to be worrying about this stuff!

Rosy, sorry to hear you had a bad night, hope you manage to get a rest during the day. I started kicking my dh out of bed when I was too tired to see to ds a loooong time ago, its him that wakes up before me when ds wakes up almost all the time ! somehow if he's really tired i know and wake up instead.

hiya everyone

muppet nice to see you again and glad everything is ok..

rosy sorry you aren't getting much sleep i've got the worry-induced insomnia at the moment and that is bad enough... at least dd is being vaguely 'good' in the night..

my worry re food at the moment is more that i can't seem to eat enough of the right things. partly because i haven't got anyone cooking for me but genuinely i don't know if anyone else finds this but although my ms has finally so-say 'gone' i still feel nauseous opening the fridge and seeing the wrong thing, and the supermarket is not a v pleasant experience (hmmm so maybe it hasn't really gone after all )

boo - i hope you're feeling better about it all and ignore those evil mothers ... i'm with you totally on just needing to eat what i can eat - personally i congratulate myself on eating as much as i can! tho i worry as i find cakes/chocolate now much easier than 'healthy' food which isn't great..

i've put on about 14lb since getting pregnant. by this stage with dd i had put on about 30lb. but i was skinnier first time i got pregnant. and tbh all i care about now is getting thru this pregnancy healthy and the baby being ok at the end of it all. i can't seem to think of the weight issue as a big deal i guess because i worry more am i getting enough protein etc..

foxy i'll see you on the losing weight threads, for sure!!

thanx everyone for the mother sympathy. our problems really are so deep-rooted that i am beginning to wish that we were estranged. it has nearly happened on more than 1 occasion. i think when you're pg you really crave that 'ideal mother' support and when it's lacking (as in different ways it seems to be lacking for a lot of us!) one does experience that as a greater loss than at other times.. and in my case she isn't excited about the dbaby AT ALL and in fact has expressed no enthusiasm whatsoever as she doesn't think i should have kept the baby in the first place.. i find that hard

kitty i just saw there's a question for you about VBAC on the pregnancy threads, someone wanting to know about homebirth? i would post the link but i can never do it successfully

Thanks for the link Rainbowgirl, I posted back

Sorry about the sleep Rosy, I'm havung a crappy time with the three dds at the mo. I know waht you mean about the tiredness flooring you. It scraes the living daylights out of me tiredness. I can only see the world in shades of grey and have a tendency to depression when too exhausted.
When dd2's eczema gets very bad at night I give her some piriton, have you tried that?

However, I had the most super shopping trip with mad mother today, infact I even out-shopped her which is almost unheard of.
I treated myself to nloads of things I shouldn't have. Dp was v. supportive of me going and looked after childrehn 1-4 and I took the baby. I bought 2 hats amoungst other things, they are so yummy. i've decided I really like hats and will wear them more often.

Have you noticed that when your legs get bigger they look shorter? Or is it just mine?

Calli, I'll read the article later. Must say though that government guidlines are not a favourite area of mine, too much damn interference

Rainbowgirl how awful you would think that no matter what your mum's opinions on whether you should have kept your baby at first, she'd change them now she knows how much you want it, or at the very least keep her tongue inside her gob. Do you think she will change her opinion once your baby is actually born?

I may well have all this to come anyway; I am going to contact my mother once ds is born, as I would like Bertie to have two sets of grandparents if at all poss. Don't know if she will be interested although I think my father will be.

But at least my pregnancy is blissfully free of any parental intervention, so I really do sympathise and I hope she comes around eventually!

Calli, it was one of these pools here

msrlmoss i knew this whole thing would be hard but i didn't really bargain for how hard it would be having to have more contact with a mother who doesn't really back what i'm doing!! i think as a single parent people often think you'll have the undying support of your mother (so many people say to me 'well at least you've got your mum' etc) and it just makes me so sad because i wish i had the relationship that i need!

ho hum...

no doubt she'll adore the baby once he's born, she is great with dd though constantly criticising the way i do things, she does see her quite often..

i'm now at over 21 weeks and my dp's parents still haven't even been in touch with me

Hi Kitty, ds2 excema has gone now but the wakefull sleeping remains (and allergies) dd was the same so I expect this baby may have horrible excema and allergies too if so I will try piriton, hadn't tried that before, might be easier than the wet wrapping!
Birthpool looks great and seems a lovely way to give birth though I know it wouldn't suit me. I hate to be touched when in labour and like to be really still, warm and undisturbed. Helps me breath and concentrate!
Diva, thinking about you and hoping the move is going ok.

Hi - we went to see my Mother today and she behaved herself

DS 6 spent a full four hours discussing in great detail the merits of various "super rare" and "ultra rare" Dr Who cards, with his cousin aged 10. Small boys really are all the same species

Calleico - your breakfast sounds delicious I can realy relate to your comment about adopting your MIL. My MIL is lovely too, reassuringly normal and shows a lot more interest and caring in me and the DCs than my real mother, who is completely volatile and unpredictable.

Muppet - nice to see you again: Here Here re. the Epidural

Rosy - its terrible being sleep deprived isn't it? I tend to feel I can't cope wth anything and turn into a screaming harpie. I think you need to buy a bigger bed Seriously though, we still have DD 3 in our bed and she's going to have to move out at Christmas, in preparation for her baby brother. Will have to fill her new bed with Barbies and Fairies

Booboo - LOL at the unwashed nightie idea I bet it would help though..

Leo - I will look up those Julia Tuplet books. Have you tried any of her excercises? Am still very of your twins. How lovely to have two cots

Rainbow - worry induced insomnia really is the worst isn't it? Everything seems so much more worrying in the middle of the night. It all gets completely out of proportion.

Have you tried putting a book by the bed and reading that when you wake? Sometimes it can take your mind of the worry until you get tired again.

I understand what you say about the ideal Mum relationship. I'd kind of hoped mine would show some interest in me while I'm PG at least, but no such luck - I still don't exsist in her radar. I feel like slapping your Mum though, for her being so insensitive to you

Kitty - LOL at your legs getting shorter and wider! IKWYM Did you buy cosy winter hats? There are some really funky winter hats around nowadays, I really like the Accessorize ones Glad your Mum behaved herself today too

Rosy - ooh you poor thing re. the wet wraps for your LO - I hadn't realised the eczma was so bad

Diva - good luck. Can't wait until you get back on and tell us how your move went.

Rainbow - I have replaced my Mum with two surrogate Mothers; one is my MIL and the other is an old friend of My Mums, who is 70. She's just moved to Majorca, but still calls me each weekend to see how the PG is going. Unlike my real Mum, who never ever rings