Due March 2007 - Heading for the third trimester

[Booboobedoo]

Thought I'd start a new thread as the other one's about to run out.

foxy, I'll download the prog today.
Sorry you didn't get a cuddle, you'll have to have another one yourself now
Haven't been in any fights recently must be losing my touch, time to roll up the old sleeves methinks xx

Laid back - well spotted!!!

I feel exactly like you do, I am excited about having another DS (brother for DS1), but am mourning the fact I'll only have one daughter. If I wasn't 43, I seriously consider having another.

I could try for another one quickly, but DH was so horrified when I suggested a third that I can imagine his reaction if I said "I want a fourth"!

Will you deffo go for another one then? We used the book "choosing the sex of your baby" to conceive DD and it did work, but you have to follow it to the letter re. timings and frequency.

Kitty - there's a kind of half hearted barney on "do you let your kids jump on the sofa?" thread, about "dissing sofas", but its more funny than serious.

I'm sure a juicy one will come along soon though !

Foxy...pretty sure I want a 4th... but it might be a bit previous as 3rd isn't cooked yet ! Who knows, might end up having 6 like kitty !

DS2 is currently trying to wriggle down my top and pretend to be a kangaroo.

laidback You want to see the before and after pictures of me before you make that decision, or better still come and live with us for a week. you'll probably go and get yourself sterilised after that

foxy - i'm ok thanks, finally feeling a bit better with the pregnancy tho got a horrible chest infection at the moment so played the sympathy card and dd's dad has taken her off my hands for a couple of days - his sister has died and he has taken her up to the family wake - i think it should be fine as long as they're sensitive about it i figured that she's nearly 4, she's part of his family too, and i really, really need some rest.

in myself i'm just really up and down - one day everything seems manageable the next day it all seems overwhelming..

Rainbow I think you're doing very well in the circumstances and you seem a lot more positive now than you did a couple of weeks ago. You may not see it yourself, but you are looking forward and making plans, which is the best and most healthy thing you can do, me thinks.

I took DS to see my Grandad in hospital when he was about 2.5, (used to go each week, but this time DS started screaming when he saw my Grandad). To cut a long story short, my Grandad died in my cousin and I's arms that day, with DS sitting next to us. We spent the whole day there, while relatives came in and cried, a priest came etc. It didn't do him any harm I don't think. Your DD will no doubt just think "oh great - a party!" and make a beeline for the crisps

Kitty - LOL at the before and after image. As someone who was size 10 B4 babies and am now a 16, I can seriously relate to that!

Woke up this morning full of beans but now feel exhausted and still haven't left the house

just had a horrible row with my mother and feel horrible what is it with mothers huh? will our children feel like this about us in 30 years time? she is just so unemotional when what i need is a great big hug. and i was feeling ok today now i just feel terrible.

was thinking muppetisacat hasn't posted on here for a while has anyone heard from/of her?

Mothers just have a way of sticking the knife right where it hurts most don't they?

haven't seen Muppet recently either....

Just think, the big MN Christmas bash will just be starting now. They'll probably be ordering their first drinks of the evening. Their probably all really happy and excited to be OUT......

they're not their

little me stuck here all alone... with just the washing to hang out...

I might go to the fridge and open a non alcoholic beer..(sighs wistfully)

I always think that labour is a bit like Vomiting but from the other end...
you feel really uncomfortable, you just want to get on with it, the contractions of stomach/womb take over your body, you feel immense relief afterwards, though of course labour is far better because you have produced a lovely baby rather than smelly half digested dinner!!
It's a blast

Its good to hear other people putting on plenty of weight too, reassuring. I certainly don't worry enough to stop eating. Being big is uncomfortable though...oh well, pass me the bickies...

Hi girls.

Glad you're feeling more positive Rainbowgirl. Sorry about the chest nfection though .

I wasn't at all worried about the weight until that conversation with my Mum. It just brought up lots of teenage stuff, I think. I was a bit chubby as a teenager, and got nasty comments from my extended family about it.

I never thought my Mum had anything to do with it, but after that conversation, I think maybe she was harbouring the same attitudes.

I've been in such control of my weight for such a long time now, it was shocking to hear things like 'well, maybe you're eating too much junk food' and 'Perhaps you could try cutting down' from my Mother. I was so upset last night I couldn't sleep.

I suppose I idealise my relationship with my Mum, so when she's insensitive it upsets me more, IYSWIM.

Anyway, must stop thinking about it, or I'll get upset again. It's not a huge deal.

Hope all's well with everyone.

EDD 3/3
24+6
Boy

Booboobedooo, I'm nearly 40 and I still am floored by my mother sometimes,even though I know she doesn't mean to put me down. And sometimes I do the same kind of thing to my ds age 15 and I SO don't mean to.
Anyway, lets just get huge, making a baby requires fuel! yummy fuel I'll see you in the weightloss threads next year

boo - i had a huge argument with my mother today and it's left me feeling awful tonight, really really depressed. we don't have a good relationship at the best of times but i hate it when it gets really bad. she doesn't realise how upset she makes me (possibly because i just act really defensive then go away and get upset on my own ). right now i need emotional support which she just isn't giving me. she hasn't told me i look fat but she has said things like 'how can you go outside looking like that?' when i hadn't got round to buying maternity clothes and you could see my bump a bit.. not pleasant!

i truly think mothers can be competitive with their daughters when it comes to all things to do with pregnancy.. also i think memory fades with age (can she really remember how much weight she put on? )

rosy i just looked out of interest at the weightloss threads. best to delay that one as long as possible! oh the joys of weightwatchers.. i lost 2 1/2 stone with them after having dd.. but agonisingly slowly

Hi all

Just back from a short trip prior to going to southern France/northern Italy on proper holiday on Tues. If I can't sump the wine down, I intend to eat the region out of whatever delectable sweet things it can throw at me....!

The birth/pain discussion's really interesting, esp listening to those who've been through it. I know I'm living in an ignorant fool's paradise at the moment as a first timer, but I'm not worried about the pain (yet) and am actually quite looking forward to giving birth - is that really perverse??? I always thought I'd want to have all the drugs under the sun, hospital birth etc, but six months of painful hell last year with ovarian cysts and severe endometriosis, culminating in a four hour op to remove it all and weeks/months of not being able to walk properly after it has made me think a) the pain can't be worse than that I had last year (and for years with severe period pain), b) I know it will finish within a certain amount of time, and c) I'll get to see my baby at the end of it. I had such a horrendous experience with drugs as well - loads of side effects, went through four diferent types of painkillers before I found one I could live with for three months prior to op - that I'm now almost more afraid of drugs than I am of the pain itself. Gas and air is all I'm thinking of right now, and it's also one of the reasons I'm so keen on using a birthing pool if I can. I'm also almost pathologically opposed to having a c/s unless its absolutely essential, although not to ridiculous extremes of course - at the end of the day, I only want the baby to come out healthy. You watch, I'll probably run screaming to the hospital (in a figurative sense of course by that stage) for an epidural once I realise exactly how hard it's going to be....! I hope not tho.

On this topic, can proper breathing techniques really make a difference to managing pain, has anyone found?

Rainbow, hope your chest is feeling better. The a/bs won't affect the baby, don't worry.

Kitty, is this really your sixth? Much respect!

Msmoss, have you read either Your Pregnancy Bible, Miriam Stoppard's Pregnancy and Birth or Sheila kitzinger's The New Experience of Birth? All three give details of the labour stages - sure other people have books they could recommend to, particularly those who've been through it already and know if they make sense or not.

hi-am also huge-had to buy giant size pregancy trousers today- even woman in shop said 5 and a half months! u are very big!.. am normally a 10 and am now wearing size 16 maternity jeans have also been nagged by family about weight, I just say, thx for advice, however my priority is a happy prgny, birth, baby, funny yours is my size...(no doubt will wish had listened after)

awwww callie you sound just the same as i did when i was pg with dd, so much so that it makes me want to cry! in fact it did make me cry!

(but just because i feel depressed and hormonal tonight so ignore me ..)

like you i wanted no pain relief other than gas&air and a birthing pool. i ended up having the worst possible experience, v long labour, ending in epidural and syntocin, and then an emergency c-section because otherwise dd would literally not have made it, am now faced with having a VBAC or a planned c-section neither of which are filling me with joy but i'm trying my best to be positive

all i'm saying is prepare yourself that things may not go according to plan however carefully you plan it.

no doubt it will be FINE and i'm a complete gloom merchant tonight..

..but one reason i struggled a lot after dd was born was that i had my heart set on this perfect birth and it just never happened!

Hello everyone

Hope you are all doing well tonight. I am having terrible trouble with my weight too. I have had "issues" with my weight for years and it doesn't help that my mum and sister are both 8 stone weaklings. My mum boasts that she put on 1st when pg with me, and I was 8 1/2 lbs . Well, good for her. I put on 4 1/2 stone with DD which wasn't great but it came off with BF and weightwatchers. I am just eating healthily but copiously. Chocolate and or cheese every day as I am not having much wine. I have put weight on my arms and legs, which is nothing to do with the baby but I hope it'll come off OK.

Incidentally, Booboo when you had your scan at King's, why did they weigh you? I was weighed at the 13 week scan for the DOwns risk thing in the blood test (and it REALLY upset me - huge meltdown on this stroppy obstetrician) but why do they do it again?

I am probably not the person to ask about pain in labour, as my pain threshold is normally quite good and I couldn't cope at all. I'm probably going to have to have a planned CS this time so class As all round but if I were going to labour, I'd keep as open a mind as possible. So much depends on how the baby is lying, how your body reacts on the day etc etc that I don't think you can bargain for what you will do til you are there. My wonderful MW friend last time told me that there were no medals for going drug free, and in any event your body would take over on the day and you would yell for what you thought you needed! In my case, that was EVERYTHING going. I have lots of friends who have laboured with, variously, nothing, a paracetamol (the MW didn't believe she was in labour and wouldn't examine her!), gas, a pool, TENs etc and they have said it was absolutely fine. Sore, but manageable.

Anyway, I am rambling again. Hope they are having a good time at the party. Am raising a non alcoholic beer to you all from the comfort of my sitting room and the sofa.

XXXXX

Just back from the pub - half a shandy, ooh, pushing the boat out tonight! Rainbow love you, I hope you're not feeling too horrendous, sending you lots of good vibes. hope your mum comes around to realising you need uncritical support right now.

Thanks for the advice. Don't worry, I'm realistic enough to know anything could happen on the day and as I say, all I really want is the LO to be fine. I haven't definitely made up my mind yet about where to have the baby, just I think I'm going to opt for the home birth initially all being well, but I'm going to check out all the local birthing centres (and the consultant unit too - in case!) in case I change my mind down the line or I have to go in to hosp in the end.

Longish labours seem to run in my family so I'm mentally preparing for that happening, which I guess makes it more likely I could end up not at home. No way of knowing in advance is there???!!!

Dollyp, enjoy that non-alcoholic beer. Off to put the kettle on now, and maybe just (one more) square of dark chocolate to go with it. Did anyone else read that report about a year ago that mums to be who had chocolate every day had happier, more contented babies? I like the people who wrote it....

Big sympathies to those being given a hard time by their Mum's - we're going to see mine today and I haven't seen her for three months as I was so cross with her for completely ignoring me when I thought I was miscarrying.

She has a downer on my sister at the moment so is being nice to me for a change. Her fave subject atm is what a bad mother my sister is

DollyP - when I was PG with DS my thighs got much bigger and I developed Bingo Wings, having never had them before. After this baby I am deffo going to try and lose some weight. I've asked one of the yummiest mummies at the school to show me some of her tummy excercise next year as well

Callieco - I deffo feel happier when I eat chocolate.

I gave up wine, chocolate, cakes and biscuits for months and did lose weight, but have noticed some has started to pile on again now. (think its the custard tarts I keep surrendering to)I always notice it round my face first, when my chin kind of loses definition (i.e. other chins start appearing and competing for attention )

I would love to be slim again. Perhaps next year, we should all start a "let's lose some of this weight" thread for the March people. Actually just thinking of it makes me feel tired!

Woke up this morning really glad I'm having another boy and nor a girl! Think I'm clearly feeling a bit hormonal and irrational. He woke me up, jumping arround, forgaging for his breakfast no doubt

Had a spooky dream about my boss last night. His DP is having tests for breast cancer and I dreamt about him/them all night. He's such a nice chap, I hope he's still me boss when I go back to work. Hope his DP is OK.

...ooops am just rambling now

25 weeks and a lively boy!

Morning all
Went to the school fireworks yesterday, why it was so late I don't know. Anyway there is some justice in the world 'cos ds1 won the competition with his tentacled Davy Jones impression. I came home and had a lovely glass of red wine.
I am having a couple of glasses a week and very nice it is too

Rainbowgirl, so you're mum is playing up eh?.
It always helps me to think of mine as a child, that way I don 't expect too much of her and am less likely to be knocked sideways by her outrageous comments. Some mums are simply unable to behave like adults, very sad it is too, but I know I have to behave in the adult role with mine

Calli, you asked about breathing exercises during labour. I have always found them to be invaluable. It helps me manage the pain and keep me in control of any panic that might be setting in. They have also allowed me to manage without drugs. The pain of later contractions is an all consuming one, you tend to go right into youself and have to focus completely on them and controlled breathing helps to to you on the rails.

Foxy I think you should have an beer with alcohol in it, come on, don't let the side down. I downloaded the dvd, will send off tomorrow

I know its awful when mothers don't behave but at the moment I totally feel like a bad mother myself-a tired one. because ds2 had me up practically all night, every half an hour or hour (because he's spoilt rotten by me of course)
Sigh, my mother says i'm too soft, made a rod for own back blah, blah, blah and she's RIGHT
After all this I have no intention of being a responsible grandmother so I'm sure my kids will be sick of me later in life