July 2015 - into the final trimester we go!

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Hope this works....

Relieved isn't even the word!

Joy i'm on the London commute, haven't been offered a seat once. Usually get a seat, but also usually get some asshole who insists on sticking their elbows in me!

There isn't a whooping cough only vaccine so we'll be offered a 4-in1 vaccine which also covers polio, diphtheria and tetanus. It's not a live vaccine though so no risk of developing any of the diseases.

The NHS website says that even if you've been vaccinated before (as a child or in a previous pregnancy) you will still need it again. I would have thought that with no previous vaccination or exposure, it would be a must, to protect the baby in those first couple of months.

Just been on the NHS website re WC. Yes it is a booster jab. To me, though, it's irrelevant what it is because it protects the baby in those vital first few months before starting their own immunisation programme. Each to their own though.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/whooping-cough-vaccination-pregnant.aspx

The vaccine vs booster depends on the jab you get I think.

Boostrix IPV (used by the NHS) is a booster jab for the 4 diseases so I think that you do need to have been previously vaccinated for it to work.

Good news Fatty
Hugs Charlie30

Bit off topic, I'm skiving wfm this week. Was out in garden, weather is glorious, need to mow the grass. I feel a bit reluctant to do it ? Any advice. Should I just go with it and see how it feels or leave it to someone not with baby ?

In other areas, I really do have to start painting only been saying I'd get it done since I got bfp! And the areas I want to do are so small DH does remind me often...

Re-arranged my app for wc & flu jabs this am as my car has definitely 'kicked the bucket' this time. Timing belt has gone. Was easier to re-arrange appointment. Won't be so easy to replace car and it is definitely needed

Zampa that was what we thought but midwife has cast doubts by saying she had no idea if it would be effective with there being nothing to boost. Broody I'm hoping Dr can shed some light tomorrow regarding it being effective or not.

I do not envy you ladies that commute into London every day. I occasionally visit for work, I was there earlier this week. It's only 15 mins or so on the train but the train was packed. I was shoved and jostled and could see people avoiding eye contact with me when they saw the bump and badge. Fortunately one friendly guy have me his seat.

On the way home I deliberately went to the station at the end of the train line so I could get on the train first. I went to the front too as I thought it would be quieter. The bun fight to get on was disgusting, as I approached an empty seat so did a man. He tutted and sighed when he saw me, then he stood next to my seat, clearly in a huff, all the way. 15 minutes he had to stand.

No way could I do that all the time.

I got asked if it were triplets today! Someone people think they are just hilarious

Is whooping cough that common in the UK? I am just wondering as we do get the DKTP (diphtheria, whooping cough, tetanus, polio) shot over here when we are young and I did get a repeat of that one but without the whooping cough when we went to South Africa on holiday. But I've never had a new shot of whooping cough and they don't give that to pregnant ladies either.

Let us know what you find out Loopy.

I'm assuming that I will have had the jab as a baby so will be partaking.

I find the whole system mindboggling sometimes. Last MW appt my community MW told me she was sending me off to the hospital for my 28w appointment with a consultant. I asked why and she was a bit cagey "oh just in case you end up needing consultant care in labour"... but it definitely doesn't seem normal, so now I'm stressing myself out wondering why I've been flagged as a higher risk person when I don't (as far as I'm aware) have any other high-risk factors. It's so confusing sometimes.

System 100% confuses me!

I didn't think there was any difference between a vaccination and a booster just that it's called a booster because it's the second (or subsequent) dose. Does the booster have a lower dose of the vaccine does anyone know?

WC is on the rise in the UK - must be big numbers for them to roll out the injections to pregnant ladies.

charlie that is wierd. I wouldn't think a consultant would want to see people just in case. How odd. Can you phone the Midwife and ask for clarification?

number they introduced it to pregnant ladies as the highest risk group (and those that suffer the most complications) were newborns before they had their own vaccinations. Apparently it comes in 4 year cycles (not sure why!). I think the last big outbreak was 2012 but I might be wrong on that.

I could only find a study for 2014 for the USA which reported an 18% increase from 2013.

Thanks, that is really interesting. Over here, about 50 people out of 100,000 get it every year, but that is among all people, not just babies or children.

Gardening problem solved - sil bringing her petrol one and going to run over them

Nothing to contribute in terms of wc jab

number not sure how up to date this is but assuming it is reliable although this states cycle of 3-4 years which would put this year as a possible high year.

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Whooping-cough/Pages/Introduction.aspx

Last updated 7/2014 so a little old but not too bad.

I guess it's just best we protect ourselves, I'm all booked in for mine.

Just had a good bit of excercise chasing DDog

nature & must yes your rhesus status can show as changed since a few years ago. I had this happen with a patient, so i called the lab to find out how it works. Basically detecting a rh status is about detecting a specific antibody attached to the blood cell, so rh D if it is there you are positive if it is not you are neg. So a few years ago the test became more sensitive as it was improved, so previously people who had tested as as neg were being picked up as pos by the better test! So your midwife is not nuts!!

I has whooping cough at 6 months old so I never needed the vaccine. I will be getting the jab when I come back to deliver tho. We don't get much whooping cough here so they don't offer it. I read about it a while ago and it was started after quite a few babies died in the outbreak in 2012.