December - yet another final thread!

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The last one was getting too long again. There's just no stopping us!

Oh and glad I am not the only one with parents (though in my case its just my mother) who want to discuss there sex lives with me I really dont want to know

Happy Birthday judemum and AQ!

And I totally agree that you should be offered weekly visits at this point, AQ. That's a ridiculous excuse - too busy. Err, should I just tell the baby to wait until you're free?

Thanks for reminding me about presents to and from lo. I've got to get that done.

eli, I too am stressing a bit about bfing after my experience with ds. That's one good thing about a c-section. 3 days in hospital with access to lactation consultant! I also spoke with a post-natal doula who does bfing consulting as well. Think I might have her around a time or two, unless it goes remarkably better with this one. I have ordered tons of things like those little gel soothers, etc. Figured it would be worth it at 2:00 am when my nipples feel like they're being chewed off and I had to order some replacement valves for my pump anyway.

PS

PMSL at judemum's parents! Dh is from the hippy generation. Wonder how long it'll be before he reverts back?

BTW My M/w schedule is 36 wks,38 weeks,41 weeks to go! The 41 wk one is where they discuss options for next steps!!!! I guess they hope I won't make it as far as 41 weeks. ME TOO!
I WAS being seen every week for pg 1 from 36 weeks I think. They seem to have a very annoying habit of thinking that I don't need to be seen as I done this before!! I'll prob be late,but this gives me less opportunities to be offered sweeps,etc. I keep getting told I can always see them if I need to. So is that to be my plan? To turn up every week to see if my cervix has dropped enough to be swept(Something I recently stubbled upon on another thread-cervix needs to be in a certain position apparantly) I know I should wait patiently for Bean to turn up but if the BHs continue to be painful I'll lose the plot before Xmas!

I have the Consultant at 36 weeks and MW at 38 and nothing apart from those!

Oh and 41 weeks is New Years Day and that's the only day of week that they do appointments,so statistically noone is planning to see me in the four weeks when I'm most likely to be giving birth(except the hospital m/ws or a very unlucky taxi driver!) In pg1 Dh was in a meeting and hospital advised i come in as I'd had a very bloody(sorry TMI) show, so I booked a taxi and when heavily preg woman came out of house, driver joked(he thought) "You're not in laobur,love, are you?" "well actually........"

..Not sure what laobur is but it's sounds uncomfortable

..Not sure what laobur is but it's sounds uncomfortable

Wow, so much to catch up on.

Sections - I will find out on Monday whether I'm having one or not. I'll be 36 weeks then and if they want to do a section apparently I'll be done as soon as there is a bed. Argh. Original due date was Boxing Day, so I might still be before Babypowder.

Who is due / being chopped this week??

Another first baby here, Beaker!

And another fall - I slipped on the stairs yesterday and went bumping down on my bum. It makes me laugh now but was frightening at the time - I just kept thinking, must stay bum side down, must stay bum side down.

What on earth am I going to do next week, when I get home and find three hundred yards of thread to catch up on!?

Well, the one bit I caught and held on to firmly was birthdays: HAPPY BIRTHDAY AQ and Judemum!!!!!
Hope you're both eating large quantities of cake, and not feeling anything other than satisfied (ie no sickness, no guilt).

Judemum, lol re parents! Actually, they sound lovely, TMI apart - think I would put earplugs in and then just beam at them in blissful ignorance when that starts up

Right then: baby is head down AGAIN today, but as I'm pretty sure she was tranny yesterday, and she swings loosely all over the place when OB pokes her with one finger, she is deemed 'unstable lie'. And that, put together with rising bp (mostly 150+/80+ now), age, previous section and exhuastion from nights of itching....well, no surprise, the OB recommended I go ahead on Friday. She says the risk of cord prolapse is not much less with unstable lie than with a wedged tranny, plus if I wait I'll have to be admitted to medicate bp - which might upset Bump, which then means monitoring for a day or two or three, which in turn means more disruption for dd1 as Mum goes into hospital twice instead of once.

So....I signed the papers, got measured for those gorgeous surgical socks, and had bloods taken.

Here's the thing though - would love some help if anyone has thoughts - I can't help feeling confused and sad. Part of me would just love to experience labour, or going into labour if not actually getting to push my baby out. I could grieve that easily if it was really clear cut 'you have to have a section for your/baby's safety' but its not quite that - more a judgement call. I do trust the OB, but we were rushed this morning - or rather, she was rushed - and I felt she assumed straight off that I'd be going ahead with section.

Medically, risk-wise, I can see going ahead is the lower risk option - and probably makes total sense. Emotionally, I'm a bit messed up - if only I could go into labour spontaneously before Friday (very unlikely!) or baby turn tranny again by then, I'd feel a lot better about it all. Help????

Awwwww hun, I think it's just your emotions and hormones all of sudden realising you are having a baby on Friday!!!!!!
I do sympahise with the wanting spontaneous labour but baby has got to come out and the OB obviously feels a section is safer xxx

I can't believe you are having a baby on Friday

Me neither!

Thanks Magnolia, think I need to have the teary confused bit - and brainstorm it all - with nice safe fellow Mums and not a rushed OB

How are you doing? Is time moving faster at all?

Well I see consultant on Thursday and am going to ask them to bring section forward a week.
Spd is awful and I am relying on co dydramol almost constantly to funtion which can't be good for baby Going to lay it on really thick and hopefully they will feel sorry for me

If not then it will be 2 weeks to wait which i suppose isn't that bad

Are you all ready to go? Bag done? Meals in freezer? Dh done all work around house?

Hi! I'm looking for some info from all you "experienced " ladies! (What would I do / have done without you all??)
What is it actually like when your waters break? Is it a massive gush or a little trickle that you could put down to dodgy pelvic floor muscles ?

Gloria it can be both. Some people have the little rickle 1st followed by the gush, others just have the gush.
I have nothing!!! My waters stay intact until abou 1/2 and hour before the birth

I just always assumed it was something I would KNOW, but the MW at my antenatal class said you might not notice!!!! Another thing to add to the list of things to be worried about!

Magnolia, spd IS awful. A week makes a big difference when in pain, I hope they listen! I can't remember how many weeks you are?

Bag done (ish, need to add home clothes, mobile phone recharger, etc), food in freezer, dh doing his best to keep up with pre-birth appliance failure (funny how all household appliances pack up just when a baby is due). You?

Gloria, never had the experience - but am told it can be anything, but more often a trickle or even no waters going until you are in established labour: the big Burst Effect is relatively unusual! Though my friend said hers went with a loud POP....

((Elibean)) - is this your first or have you experienced labour before?

I guess you have to do what is lower risk. And once you see the baby you'll probably forget how s/he got out.

Elibean - I know spontaneous labour would be good but trust me when I say

(and all 1st timers PLEASE DONT READ IF NERVOUS),

A labour with problems is the worst thing ever. It took me about 9 months to be able to think about giving birth to my DD without crying. I wont go into details and tbh there was nothing exceptional but i truly believe a safe/uncomplicated C/S has to be the better option.

Gloria - i didnt notice my waters break with DD although after the fact I recall changing my knickers twice thinking it was really hot in the hospital and i must be sweating loads

Loulou, its my second...dd was born via section after a failed induction (her head disengaged, I didn't dilate or go into labour).
I know it won't matter a year from now, thats very true...and if I can get to feel its really the safest and healthiest option, I'll go into it happy anyway. Its just not quite as clear cut black/white as I'd have liked it, I suppose
Thanks for the hugs, suspect thats the bit I needed most - dh was a tad uninterested, and Magnolia is right: am feeling very teary and hormonal.

I hear you, Satinshoes
And I also hope you've got/had the support necessary to feel ok about heading towards birth (however) this time - sounds rough.

Awwwww Eli ((HUGS)) You are doing the right thing. Doctors never tell you what to do they just like to give you all the (one-sided ) facts and then expect you to come up with the choice they want you to make. I really think you are doing the right thing. This baby HAS to come out somehow and she will be here on Friday. I am so excited for you I am practically in tears! The reasons are all medical, you are not copping out. I hate to say it but it sound's like you could easily have an emergency and that is a thing to avoid.

I felt like you are feeling now after I had DS especially when a neighbour came round when he was 10 weeks old and said "I bet you feel such a failure for not giving birth properly" I spent the rest of the day crying but if it was now I'd probably have decked her

I think what we have all achieved and are about to achieve is tremendous and we should all be very proud of ourselves. As my lovely (male) GP said to me "what is it with you women wanting to inflict pain on yourselves, if men had to give birth, we'd all have c-sections"!

Right, ramble over! Off to avoid blood-shed between DCs. Both have tonsilitis or however you spell it, ear infections & the runs but you wouldn't know it by the way they are leaping around!!

Eli, I am nearly 36 weeks, Will be 38 on the 7th or 37 when I want them to do it lol.
It must be so hard as it's no so 'definate' with you. I know exactly what you mean though. I think I am ok with a section because I know there is no other way on earth to have this baby but if there was a slight chance of a vaginal delivery I may feel different.
Thinking of you xxxx

For some reason I am going around the house singing 'satinshoes, batinshoes, ratinshoes, catinshoes' to the tune of the A-Team. Maybe I'm spending too much time alone.

Eli, there's a few MNers who are midwives, could you start a separate thread about the risks involved with trying for a VBAC, with a baby who's in an unstable lie. They may be able to give you a bit more info on why a section would be safer for the both of you so you don't have so many of the 'what if's' running round your head. Hormones and nerves and tiredness don't make for a very rational mum to be really, do they? Sorry to hear your dh is a bit disinterested, I honestly don't think they have any concept of what it's really like for us as the reality of the birth looms.

Magnolia, hope your consultant agrees to move the c/s forward, considering you've gone into labour early before I'm quite surprised they're leaving you as long as the 7th anyway. Fingers crossed he's sympathetic - could you turn on the tears for a bit more leverage?!

Gloria, I've had to have my waters broken for me when I was well into labour both times, to make the babies drop down a bit further but as most people have said, unless the baby isn't engaged at all you're unlikely to have the niagara falls effect!!

Jabber, good news about the reduced hours, hope it does the trick with your BP.

Happy Birthday Judemum and AQ .

Judemum, came very close to literally PMSL when I read about the satin sheets - very Bridget Jones .

Satinshoes, hope you're feeling a bit more positive about this birth. It must make the whole process that much more nerve wracking if you had a bad experience first time round.

Spina, glad I'm not the only bad mummy who's stocking up on dvd's for the first few weeks post birth. The dcs collection is going to have doubled in size by Christmas!

I've been feeling VERY stressed since the weekend and have come to the conclusion it's actually because I'm so disorganised and everything is so chaotic so I've decided to write a list of everything that needs to be done before Christmas to try and feel more in control. I'm just spending too much time on MN when I could be sorting out so I'm going to use it as a reward for doing something off my list . How sad is that, like a sticker chart for mummy!!

I also would like to blame ALL of you on here who were talking about BH yesterday for my being tired and ratty with the dcs today. As I said, I've never had them before, but they made their presence known with a venegance at 3am for a good couple of hours. I actually had to get out of bed and walk around to ease them. Not fun, are they?

Whew, hope I haven't forgotton anyone, this seems like a bit of an epic post but the dcs have decided they aren't going to sleep this pm by the sounds of it so I'm feeling like I should go and get them up and do something.

Catch up later.