Hop aboard the good ship JS Grads for it's sweet 16th pregnancy party. Don your party hats, grab a bouncy ball and quaff copious amounts of raspberry leaf to celebrate our coming of age!

[Minion]

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 16th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 33rd outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates! It's a bit quiet at the moment, but with all these upduffed viroids hopefully it won't be for long!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

So, roll call below please, viroids!

mm maybe i mean anxiety is giving me restless legs. I'm not worried about them ( ) but am getting that antsy feeling where I can't relax. Would like to go to sleep but feel a bit wired.

Which naps are these Juni?

Oh also, most people at baby groups put on an "I'm totally fine" front. They'll be exhausted and crying inside .

I had lots of naps at the start of maternity leave. No little one to chase though!

We talked abt how we thought it would go after the baby and the reality. They all talked abt not getting to the hoovering and I was like - I am sad about all the horrible stuff. Real tumbleweed moment! My mum said that though, everyone lies!

Right, time to see if she'll go in her cot and grab three hours. xx

As in the horrible hospital stuff. Am enjoying the baby a lot!

Awake!

Really quite worried now. Not been to toilet since Monday. Is it stuck forever?

Oh God La! That would actually kill me. Are you allowed Lactulose or something?

I woke up with mega owchy leg cramp in my calf. Clearly not drinking enough.

I felt like that too Juni. Was traumatised for about a year. Maybe as I'd never been through anything that physical before (never been in hospital at all before). It just kind of went away by itself, although it may resurface in 2 months... You could ask for a debrief with midwife?

Hehe, just thought I'd check MN - bound to be a post from La in the wee small hours
Get yourself some prunes, they worked wonders for getting my digestion going, and they're good for you
J has not repeated his mega sleep, unfortunately he's been up since 3:30!

Hey Juni I'm impressed that you're out and about and going to stuff, I feel like I may never leave the house again
Sounds like a debrief would be good for you to settle some demons? Must be hard to get a bad experience out of your head. Xx

Ah ness you're very early days. But glad I am not completely alone!

Gonna get a debrief but still processing it all myself if that makes sense. It's hard when no one really talks about it.

Anyway, you lovely pg viroids don't want to hear this! Am with sleeping DD and hoping to catch some zzzz myself. Flipping hungry though.

I find apples help keep me regular la but I have a v sensitive tummy
Good luck!

Oh yeah, my mum takes me about now MrJ is back to work. Not driving or anything!

Morning viroids. DD had an awful awful night last night and I'm now panicking about the baby coming and her being worse than a new born! Screaming and throwing toys, running riot round her room and trashing it. I ended up stripping her room apart from bed and wardrobe, 1 item at a time for each time she got out of bed for no reason/ kicked off etc. she's never been a good sleeper but last night was a new level. 2am tantrums because she wants to build a castle out of blocks ffs!

Min glad you got to see someone but sorry it was the awful mw! What's she called? If I get her when I'm in labour ill make sure I'm sick on her

Congratulations on a girl boo

Zyla that's terrible that they won't see you! I hope everything goes ok for you today!

You're going to have to get up there with a stick la, ease it out that way!

Black Friday everyone! Are you excited?! Hoping for some sneaky work time to browse a few websites...

A stick . A pooh stick?

Not sure I'd bother Dulcet. My fb is full of people moaning about not being able to get stuff. People are mental about shopping.

Juni, say anything here. Everyone's experience is different and you're not scaring anyone. Totally understand.

Lauren that sounds awful! I swear I am never taking MiniWil's cot sides down. Ever!

Morning all

I second prunes la I have not been quite as regular as my usual self but a handful of those bad boys help.

ness and juni please do share, one of my greatest concerns is about how I will feel about the birth. I am the biggest wimp in the world, scared of injections, blood tests, fainted when I visited my mum in hospital etc. we seriously considered not having children because of my phobia.

Is there anything you can think of that we could do now to prepare ourselves?

Wil I had to take her sides down unfortunately to toilet train her! She's mostly fine- hasn't had an episode like this for months. I can handle the shouting/ throwing etc its the whiny voice that gets me in the night that she uses which drives me insane!

I haven't been paid for 3 of my mindees yet so no Christmas shopping for me. Hopefully that will hit my account next week so ill finish my shopping then and get everything wrapped I've got a wish list so it's just buying them now which isn't too bad!

Morning viroids. Hooray for Friday

OOF La that's gonna bring a tear to your eye

Oh Lauren that sounds rough

Haha La! Strong coffee? Never been brave enough to try prune juice but apparently that works wonders...

Hugs Juni x

Am I the only person in the world who didn't know what black Friday was til yesterday?! And only because I was yelling "WTAF is black Friday and why is everyone emailing me about it!?" at DH last night

Fleur - I don't know if you've thought about hypnobirthing, Lazy Daisy classes or some other kind of birth preparation course but mine have been wonderful for teaching coping techniques and having a positive attitude towards birth. It all sounds a bit wooo but it's honestly not x

Yeah I think something like Lazy Daisy if you're worried Fleur. Haven't done it myself but I think it sounds quite good. It's kind of a fine line between being prepared but also not wanting to control everything. I was probably underprepared last time. I should have read about inductions before I had one. I had no strategies for dealing with the pain. I should probably find some in the next month or so.

Lauren I find the paying for it all the worst bit! I have nothing so far. Most disorganised mother on planet.

Oh and I hate big shopping days like this Popz. People are utterly crazy.

The nearest lazy daisy to me is over an hour away by car I really wanted to do it too! In fact there's no birthing classes/ pregnancy exercise classes at all within a half hour car journey from me!

Wil DD is pretty much sorted. It's just all the relatives now and friends children I need to finish off! It's DDs birthday the week before Christmas too and I still need to sort party bags!

Oh also, has anyone heard anything about the nationwide meptid shortage? My friend gave birth a few weeks ago and said she couldn't have meptid as the hospital had none! That was my pain killer of choice for labour I'm going to buy some online and present it to the midwifes when I'm in labour...well I won't obviously but it's ridiculous! Those that have just had babies was meptid available for you?

La, prunes! Or raisins - lots of them. To tell us all about it when it happens... But lactulose is fine in pregnancy, just make sure you drink enough (it drags water into the poo to soften it up).

Juni talk to us about it too. It does sound like you need to talk it through. Ignore baby group women. I went to every baby group going - not because I liked going out especially, but because DD would only sleep while moving and I got very bored of the canal path/Co-op circuit. And there was often someone there to pass me a biscuit. But I found out (much later) that half of the mums thought I was a bitch because I managed to get there every week without fail. And I even moaned about DD's sleep!

Fleur you can do hypnobirthing stuff online as well I think...certainly could three years ago anyway. I think an open mind is the only important factor, that you can control, in a good delivery. That way you can't feel cheated out of what you wanted, or wish you didn't have that epidural or whatever. Getting you and the baby home in one piece is the only thing that really matters at the end of the day - and if it has to be an emergency section then it's probably a good thing you're somewhere that can happen. I've seen too much shit, though.

I've not seen Meptid used. Our unit used diamorph, rather than pethidine. All of them have the ability to stop the baby from breathing at birth (for an unspecified period of time, but usually several minutes). They all start again, but it's a pain because they can't have a cuddle with their mum until they breathe...annoying Here, I get nothing apart from paracetamol. Or an epidural.

Restless legs can be low salts - try a banana or some crisps (and drink plenty) :)

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Right viroids - am in need of balanced opinion so I'm asking a load of pregnant ladies - sensible!

Bit of an AIBU moment in relation to black Friday and my sister...

As a family we normally do a bit of Christmas list writing as we'd prefer to get each other something we want, but are all also happy with surprises - no pressure. So ideas emails have been going back and forth for a few weeks. Older sister would like some kitchen knives and 'nice Clinique body stuff' amongst other things. Then she announces that we 'probably won't get anything off our lists as she's decided to support local businesses'...fine, but a little hypocritical when she wants high street stuff...let that one go though and have got her a nice gift set from Clinique.

So, I emailed both sisters and Mum this morning saying that there's a great black Friday deal on Amazon for Mary Berry books (3 for £24 - yo know it makes sense!) - I know that there are a few Mez Bez requests on lists, so being helpful! Within half an hour, she's posted the following on facebook: "I will not be participating in the madness of Black Friday and instead will be buying all my Christmas presents from independent local shops and galleries. So there!"

Now, am I being unreasonable to have the rage about this and p=be taking it personally? She does freelance work and lives in a nice Sussex village so has the time and ability to do the shopping locally thing...I and our other sister both live and work full time and long hours in London. Just want to tell her to smug the fuck off! Or fill the clinique pots with home-made marmalade...

Rant over - thanks for listening...