Hop aboard the good ship JS Grads for it's sweet 16th pregnancy party. Don your party hats, grab a bouncy ball and quaff copious amounts of raspberry leaf to celebrate our coming of age!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 16th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 33rd outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates! It's a bit quiet at the moment, but with all these upduffed viroids hopefully it won't be for long!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

So, roll call below please, viroids!

Giving her Clinique pots full of marmalade sounds perfect! Mind you La will be producing something that can't be flushed in a day or two if you want to hang on for that

Supporting local business is all very noble but unless you have plenty of time on your hands it just isn't practical. Most of my Christmas shopping gets done online as I just wouldn't have time otherwise. Next year when I'm on mat leave maybe I will make more of an effort to go local.

Hope you're ok today Zyla x

Oh god. It really hurts but nothing is moving. I'm scared if I push the baby will fly out

I would be tempted to reply to her FB post asking which local businesses stock the Clinique products she's asked for.....

What pis said

I double dare you

Oooo, Pis - that's a great idea! Would out her to her arse-licky friends who all think she's some sort of saint...Not sure I do dare...currently settling for moaning about her to anyone who will listen...am trying to be the bigger person...she recently separated from her husband, moved back to the UK from France and has had to start again. They had a tough time as found out they couldn't have kids due to her having endometriosis and PCOS. Then his brother killed and he went into bad depression. So think she's having a bit of a personality crisis/trying to decide who she is again...feel like I should try and have tolerance while she does that...and PG guilt doesn't help. Families eh?

Thank you for the congratulations viroids, dulcet I was convinced it was a boy, I've had horrible morning sickness this time, but none last time, I've had a lovely bump forming and am almost as big now as I was at full term with DD, but people kept saying I was having a girl, so I had started 'gearing myself up' to hear it. I'm glad we found out, as it will give me a while to adjust to the fact we're not having a boy as I had already started internally calling bump Oliver and looking at boys things thinking we were having a boy :P

Poor student doctor dulcet, I expect having a qualified doctor there with him was pretty daunting and he was so worried about saying something wrong that he couldn't make himself say anything at all either that or he's bloody clueless and hopefully the exams will prevent him from being a danger to society any time soon I was involved in a thing when I was pregnant with DD and two student doctors saw me throughout pregnancy and then once we'd had DD to practice finding the heart beat and to hear about my experiences and emotions as my pregnancy went on, there were no 'down up' doctors with them though, so with the exception of using the horn thing the wrong way round to listen to the heart beat they were less flustered, I think I educated them somewhat on Hypermobility and NF1 though, as they'd never heard of either...

Juni it's good that you're getting a debrief sooner rather than later, I didn't get one till i saw the consultant at 12 weeks with bump, it was pretty shocking to get a full understanding of some of the time frames like them letting me bleed for 3 hours after the birth before they listened to DH saying I was getting more unresponsive and also of some of the observations that the staff had made that were completely inaccurate or all out lies for instance the notes said I left confidently breastfeeding and indicated that though I had some concerns I had insisted on leaving a day and a half after DD was born I all but bloody begged them to let me stay because I wasn't happy with her feeding and was basically being carried to the loo by family so wasn't confident that I was well enough to look after DD at home This time I will be more pushy about seeing my notes before they discharge me!

ooh bothersome you should reply saying "How noble, we should all take a leaf from your book and support local businesses, though I expect this means you'll be sending out a new ideas list for of lovely locally made products as to buy all of that mass produced Clinique stuff you suggested would be an insult to your cause,I eagerly look forward to receiving it"

PS: 9 weeks today!

Must focus on happy thoughts and not rage...

Ah Bother, I love the marmalade in Clinique pots idea . I was going to say definitely reply with Pis' idea (that's totally what my sister or I would do if one of us was being such an arse) but maybe she does need a break after such a horrible year. I would definitely say something directly to her though - even in a jokey way to point out she's being a bit silly.

Thanks Chat, think I was definitely dehydrated but will try bananas too.

I don't know what that drug is Lauren. Pretty sure I wasn't offered it. We get g&a, pethidine or epidural I think.

Briefest midwife visit this morning. She always wants to rush me out the door. Forgot to take a pee sample in but she wasn't bothered at all. She said head is well down but I don't believe her - or think it's just because I'm short - as she kept saying this last time and I was still 2 weeks late.

bother I would be tempted to give myself the clinique stuff as a gift from DC, and then pop to local shop and buy a hamper of own brand stuff eg tea, beans etc. but Im mean!

Cymru - good idea...the fact that my local shop is Londis is currently lost on her - but some value jam and a packet of stale bombay mix would soon make that point!

Will reply to everyone's posts later when more time. Mum got me fybogel for pregnant ladies. Things are starting to move :(

Ok, so last night we were debating just saying sod it and going to the hospital anyway, then at about 10.30 she started having a little womble party!

Been to the midwife this morning who reassured me and was generally lovely, she also said she was really annoyed at the hospital too, and that she nearly called round to my house last night to see me! Heard heart beat, and I've felt her this morning, so no idea what was happening yesterday, but I've been told to please please call if it happens again and it's best to check!

big sigh of relief

Hooray zyla that's lovely news :)

I got Meptid with DD not keen on pethidine making the baby drowsy and I really really don't want an epidural...definitely need to discuss my options with mw at some point!

I've read the thread then promptly forgotten who said what! Whoever it was with the awkward sister (sorry!) I would go with what pis said...but it is probably best to give her a break

Cross posted with lots of people!

Excellent news Zyla sounds like you have a lovely mw!

What is meptid Lauren? I really didn't want pethidine but ended up with not much choice. I would choose an epidural over pethidine every time, I thought it was awful.

Great news Zyla, I was a bit of worried by your silence this morning.

Thanks for the advice ladies. Had never heard of lazy daisy classes, will look them up.

The problem I have is, I can cope with the idea of a natural birth (with no pain relief ) as I wouldn't want injections. And I can get around a planned c section.

What I cannot get on board with is an emcs.

I'm prob just mental

My friend had a home birth and her 121 midwife recommended Meptid, but it's not available on the NHS in our area, so she couldn't get it! Our hospital uses diamorphine.

Bother - try to ignore. It's easier to be holier than thou when you have the time & money I'd be sorely tempted to email her with a list of your local shops and ask which she'd like her present buying from and I hope you only have a chippy and a newsagents nearby!

Thank goodness for that Zyla! Hurrah for squirms!

La! You can do it! Baby will not fly out! waves poo pom poms

Fleur - I'm the same, proper blood & needle wimp, but your birth does not have to be a medical affair! There is nothing wrong with you that needs fixing, you are going to go through a process that is entirely natural, and the hospital is just there to help and support you as and when necessary. It really helped me to try to see birth in that way, and I made it clear in my birth plan that that was my view, to make sure I wasn't offered any unnecessary procedures (like a cannula! Which I now discover they usually do as standard when when women are in to give birth 'just in case'! And luckily I avoided!)
I found this book on hypno birthing really helpful. It's bullshit that it'll make labour not hurt, but it's got a lot of sound advice about hormones and how natural birth works, and how to relax and feel in control during labour.
I will post my birth essay story, promise

Meptid is slightly more expensive than pethidine apparently wil which is why its not always available on nhs, I'm not really sure of what it even is I just know that pethidine can make the baby drowsy and Meptid doesn't do that, and it's a similar kind of pain relief...I'm sure there's people on here that know more than me! (Because I know nothing!)

La - we need an update on your movements...can you write us a log? #poopuns

Well your nothing is more than my knowledge Lauren! I didn't think that pethidine helped with pain relief one little bit tbh.

Fleur, I genuinely think that if you need a EMCS the only thing you'll be thinking about is getting your baby out safely. It's one of those things you'll worry about more in advance than at the time.

I noticed a bit of a difference with meptid I think- but it could have been psychological, and they gave me an anti sickness jab at the same time which was probably all I needed- I was ripping out my drips being sick- as then I could concentrate on my breathing rather than just rolling around spewing. I'm a ridiculously sicky person

hello!
Thanks for the support, you're all wonderful. Naughty baby keeping me away from you!

fleur, the open mind thing is key, really. It's more people putting things "in" than injections ie canula, epidural (don't know if that's classed as the same thing!) but gas and air takes it all away tbh.

I'm mainly upset about some of the things that happened during but mainly things that happened after DD was born. I had HV today and she was really nice and we talked about it. It's all processing so will ask Dr about counselling or something. I just want to talk about it without someone saying "but that's in the past, don't think about it". The flashbacks are prettttty hard to ignore. I might be going to a group for anxious mums so at least if I talk about it they won't all look at me like I'm weird.

As I say, I don't want to scare anyone and truly, when you're in it you just go from hour to hour and they explained everything during the labour. I think it helps to do a of preparation so you know how you'd feel in the circumstances - they wanted me to "try" with syntocinon and I said I'd only have it with an epidural. Right, time to sleep while the baby grumbles on my mum. xx