October 2014- thread 13. Getting the eviction notices ready!

[MundayCakes85]

Thought we'd better start a new thread, how many more will we get through before babies arrive??

goats that's a tough one... Is there a compromise, where he drinks in moderation? Are you counting on him driving you?

My friend's hubby had been on a bender and was ratted when she went into labour first time. She was v mad with him and he went tee total for the last two months of their second pregnancy.

Totally understand, my DP loves his drink. He managed 9 days for his dry January...

Goats my dp got a bit of a fright last night and has finally put himself on a drinking ban! Only has a few beers on friday and sometimes a sunday when footie is on... Maybe pretend your in labour after he has a couple and put the fear of god into him ... I think men sometimes forget that things happen and might be required to do a mad hospital dash at any time ... Your oh probz thinks he has all the time in the world... Maybe you might go into labour when he has a stinking hangover

He'll make some excuse about weekend or stress or work or blah blah. I'll be induced at 41 weeks, there is a definite 3 week limit to no booze. If he can't do 3 weeks without booze then there are other issues. I can't stand the smell of beer or stale booze, if he's drinking every day, even one beer, then he smells of it. When I'm not pregnant I don't mind it, it's just 3 fucking weeks of his life. I'm fuming. Still can't say anything, need to wait until less fuming.

I battled with this with DH last time, luckily, when I did go into labour, he hadn't had anything, but with DS being early, it's clearly registered with him and this time he's already self-imposed a 'no more than the driving limit' drinking ban on himself.
Not helpful for you, Goats but maybe a 'scare' would help focus his mind...

I've just been informed that I'll be going over my due date and probably induced, so we'll have plenty of warning to not drink, to put off plumbers etc. Good that he's so in the know about what's going on with my body. I'm mightily proud of not giving any outward sign of my massive rage. Holding it in might just bring on labour, hahahahaa.

Goats I'd fake a few contractions and scare some consideration into him! As you say if he can't handle 3 weeks booze free then there is a bigger issue. He might be a bit freaked out about being a Daddy but frankly he's had nine blimmin months to ponder this irrefutable fact. Is he likely to still be boozing so much when the baby arrives due to 'stress' from sleepless nights/ a crying baby /the shock of being a Dad. There's a million and one reasons why having a baby can drive you to drink but when you have to be compus mentis at 3am, it's not the best plan. Given you've been booze free for 9 months, I'd tell him the next 9 months is his turn to be sober .

Fedup you've been under sooooo much stress, am sure baby is absolutely fine, but you've been juggling so much and stressed out (like anyone else would be in the same situation), sometimes that can move things earlier - coming early doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the baby. J was born at 36 weeks on the nose and was utterly fine. Good luck and I really hope that your DH can be with you xxx

It's all very exciting to have so many babies on the way. I can't wait to hear how the births go and the names of the lovely wee ones.

I'm having a lot of movement low down but can definitely feel an arse up in the air - I can feel the thighs coming off it. So I think baby has both hands and feet down by their head? Yoga baby?

Meant to mention thanks to you alfie for the reassurance regarding your son being born at 34 weeks... Thinking of you and other ladies making progress in hospital right now

So I think baby has both hands and feet down by their head

Yes, I have loads of small type wiggling down below too - not a head moving around, more like hands or maybe elbows. Doing it right now in fact, it's weird. Definitely still head down though - all hiccups are really down low.

Just heard about the reason for one of the other NCT C-sections - baby turned breech at 41+1 - how annoying! Then the ECV failed, but has given the baby hip dysplasia, doubly annoying.

DH has just gone home. Need him to get a decent sleep and find the baby car seat and clean it, plus empty the downstairs loo / utility of all the stuff so builders can start.
Ds is still vomiting a lot with my parents. But they says he's in good spirits so trying not to worry.
As for me and baby - all looks ok. Still leaking but no dodgy colours, and keeping me in with antibiotics over night. If things don't kick off (don't want them too so lying down mostly) I can go home as long as I'm feeling ok and baby is. Yet DH will be at work and I've got a house fill of builders. Will see how things see over night I guess.

Hope everything ok with everyone in labour or not

I've heard too many tales of injuries from ECV - broken legs, hip dysplasia, dislocated shoulders etc especially when done late in pregnancy. I've decided that if baby goes breech then that's a sign from the universe to get a section.

Otherwise I'm just hoping I go before induction on the 11th October, not because I'm dreading induction (I will probably just epidural it!) but because eeegad I don't want another 27 nights of being pregnant. Days I can handle but nights are really pissing me off now. I know I'm laissez faire about wanting to go into labour any time from 34 weeks, but in my family 34 weeks is pretty good going (compared to my 27 week niece).

Yeah I won't have an ECV either - and wouldn't have done, even if it had stayed breech all along.

And agree with the whole fed up being pregnant - I reckon at 41 weeks, if I'm still pregnant, I'll be begging for the induction. Something on me is hurting ALL THE TIME. Lots of bump ache/pain, lady garden pain, one hip is starting to hurt, can't breath once I've eaten, some heartburn (although much better recently), getting kicked to shit the whole time, bladder permanently feels like I need to pee (good for pelvic floors I guess), no appetite, can't sleep, can't turn over in bed without it hurting some part of me, tired all the time. Absolutely fed up.

Also fed up with being grumpy about being pregnant!!

yellow that is exactly how i feel about trying to turn a breech baby .. Having a second breech baby i deffo think the universe is trying to tell me something .. The midwife last night referred to me as being "unlucky" .... But i honestly dont care which way they choose to come out, i just want them safe & sound in my arms... I can imagine ecv being agony, some movements Lo does takes my breath away

I would also refuse ECV. Hosp may suggest it if still oblique but even though cs will be a nightmare with looking after ds I would still choose cs

One of my nct ladies had an ecv on Monday and it worked straight away. Didn't someone mention earlier on thread that doctors tend to know straight away if it's going to work? I might go for it but without being in that situation it's difficult to know...

fedup your waters breaking have just been the icing on the cake with everything you have been dealing with...please please use your hospital stay to relax as much as possible and gather your thoughts.. You have had so much on your plate, think you deserve a nice easy birth and hopefully your dp can get the house sorted as much as possible xxx

bumpbang - might have been me. The last NCT woman who went for one was told that if it's going to work, it works easily and straight away. So really only needs one 'go'. If they have to put loads of effort in, then it's just not going to work.

Bump yes my obstetrician said he'd know within 10 seconds if baby was going to turn. But he was also the one who put me off it - I asked him if he would recommend it to his wife in my circumstances and he said no not with my history of a malpresented baby, he reckoned with an anterior placenta the odds of baby being able to be turned and staying head down for longer than 24 hours would be less than 30%. I'm also thinking that I might just have an odd shaped uterus if this baby goes into a funny position like J did just before birth. In which case turning would be even less likely to be successful and more likely to risk injury. I know cord tears are rare and they do scan before a turn but certainly at my last scan they couldn't say for certain whether the cord was around the baby's neck - if you were to try to turn a baby with a cord around their neck (which could be one reason they've been unable to turn cephalic themselves) that wouldn't be worth thinking about. I know the odds are low but our hospital is so busy at this time of year, there is a real pressure to avoid CS and clogging up theatre, and I worry that more risk is tolerated than would be if there was less pressure on resources. I appreciate my phobia of ECV, alongside that of long handled forceps is irrational but they are the two things I would refuse I think.

Again, long handled forceps are on my 'no consent' list - the only thing actually. Also, they can sod off if they start saying things like 'we'll only consider CS after a try at forceps in theatre' - yes that'll be nice, rip me up downstairs, then probably rip me up abdominally too. Thanks for the recovery time. Doula was telling me 'oh that's really rare'.. I can't believe they let it happen at all, it's all so 'as long as baby is OK', makes me irritated.

What are long handled forceps?

This thread has popped up to most active in my side bar thingy! I'm not surprised..it's hard to keep up!
Well with less than 2 weeks to go I've finally made an attempt at the hospital bag and also washed some baby bits and dug the car seat out the loft. Feeling much better about things really.

Goats, I'd be mad too...my oh thought it would be ok to have a huge night out next Friday one week before my due date. Luckily a few recent random scans at they hospital to check baby is in right position and me pretending I can feel extra things happening has put pay to that and he's cancelled. Really they have no idea it's so infuriating...and this is our second dc!

Keillands. The ones used for 'turning' when the baby is still high up (at which point they could still do a C-section), rather than just 'lifting' out.

Eww, I just googled it and saw lots of images I'd rather not. I'm so glad we only have one viewpoint from which to do this, I really wouldn't want to be looking at the business end during birth.

I think once any instruments are involved, most partners must give up being at the business end. My cousin's wife had an episiotomy and forceps, and all my cousin had to say about it was 'I'm so proud I didn't pass out' - he was at the head end the whole time, just the blood was enough to have him wavering.

I think once instruments are involved the business end becomes too crowded for partners to hang out there. The obstetrician will need elbow room, sterility and good light.

And room to get their foot on the bed for leverage...