November 1014 - thread 5 - the rainbow collective romping (and limping) into 2nd trimester!

[weeonion]

hi folks - thought we should have a new thread!

PS posy so glad you're home and resting. Your hyperemes-ing at the bus stop comment really made me laugh, and no, you're really not being PFB, I'm on my second and would worry too.

Greenstone - have you tried effaclar duo +? I would also recommend switching to hot cloth cleansing if you haven't done this yet.

Thanks Miskate, I'm actually already sort of doing both! I've been OCMing for maybe 2 years now and have been so pleased with the way coconut oil has been keeping my skin mostly under control. However all of that has gone out the window with pregnancy :( I am using not effaclar duo but effaclar A.I. - I bought the wrong product by mistake but it does seem to be drying up the spots.

What's bothering me is the new ones popping up - they are small and not cystic but quite red and uneven and generally unattractive. Maybe my skin is just doing a major clear out and it has to get worse before it gets better.

Greenstone mine is slightly better, mixing bicarbonate of soda into a paste with water and using it as a scrub or face mask seems to help. But I'm still struggling with the purple marks left when the spots go, I've been putting a variant of bio oil on but I think the oil has been making spots come back a bit grr vicious cycle!

Thanks Greenstone, that's made me feel a bit better. Though have come to the realisation that if my nipples grow much more, I will have more nip than actual boob. A bit freaky.

On the spot front, my face has surges of clearness (yay!) and surges of pizza-face days (booooo) but my back is DISGUSTING I've never really had a spotty back before, but for some reason pg has given me more spots than the average Dalmation. Yum.

I am SO EXCITED however, because my DM has just announced that she's booked us a mother-and-daughter trip to a spa in two weeks time and it's in Barcelona!! Even better, it's a gift from her for her first blood-related GC and she hasn't asked me to pay (which is good, because I couldn't afford it). Is this too much to accept, do you think? I'd really like to go, especially as DP threw a tantrum over it when he found out even though he's going to be on golf tour for those days and wouldn't therefore be seeing me anyway. (He promptly zipped himself into his flies after shouting at me. There was skin missing, blood & everything. Can anyone say karma...? ) I am aware that this makes me a spiteful and horrible person, but I can live with that. Anyway, to cut my ramble short, if I go I'm hoping sunshine will work its magic on my back.

Oh, also Greenstone, I would seriously consider taking the ABs. They can give you some that are pregnancy-safe and well tested. For a skin infection, which is what folliculitis is, you would most likely be prescribed a penicillin-type AB. They work by preventing the reproduction of bacteria and basically causing the organisms causing the infection to become extinct. Because they target specific infection sites, they are safe to use during pregnancy - your baby is safely sealed in the amniotic sack, it has absolutely no exposure to the infection your ABs will be targeting, so would be safe from their effects

An untreated infection, on the other hand, has every chance of spreading. Folliculitis can lead to problems like cellulitis, damage to the lymphatic system etc. (Not saying that it will, obviously, but that it can.)

Maybe explain your concerns to your GP? I'm sure they can explain it a lot better than my babble!

Thanks a million Twiglet, that actually really helps a lot and is very reassuring. I should just book an appointment - you're right.

God yeah, I'd take the spa trip in a heartbeat, and of course your mum doesn't expect you to pay if she's already gone and booked it! How utterly fab. Why did your DP get cross about it?

Wow Twiglet that sounds great. No guilt allowed at all. And I do love your karma comment I wonder if it's possible to absorb/pass those hormones we get by osmosis - sounds like your DP has the dreaded pregnancy rants I'd nod and say 'yes darling'. Works for my DP...

Blimey, you're a chatty bunch, good to have a new thread.

I'm 13 weeks 1 day today and all symptoms have disappeared completely, no sickness at all.

Getting slightly worried about my loosening pelvis though, I can feel it and had spd with my last pregnancy.

I haven't caught up with the tbread yet but will as I'm having a complete day off...DS is at nursery and I have book one of game of thrones, a cornetto or 4 and some lovely homemade lemonade.

Might even have a nap of the sofa

Twig let go on the trip if it's something you'd enjoy! It would upset your mum if you declined she's probably desperate to treat you (just think of all the treats you'll want to bestow on the lo in your belly!) and I bet you'll have a great time too! Your dp should shut up if he can go away for golf you can go have a good time too! :) it's not even costing you anything!

He got cross about it because he's apparently been asking me to go abroad for ages and I've said I couldn't afford it. Think you're right thisis because in true hormonal rage style, he ignored my pointing out that DM was paying and that's the only way I could afford it and my additional comment that we're actually planning to go away to visit his DPs in Lanzarotte in June (once they've gone back over there, currently they are over here). Sometimes you just don't want to be calmed down, I suppose this was one of those times!

Feeling a bit better about the spa thing now, thought it might be a bit much but you're right, I think she wouldn't have booked it as a surprise if she was expecting me to offer to pay her back. Though I will obviously buy her a nice meal when we're out there as thanks!

Study, can I ask what other symptoms your SPD gave you, if it isn't too personal? I hadn't even thought about it, but for years I've had a problem with my SI joint on the left hand side - insufficient joint fluid there means that it occasionally gets 'stuck' together, which is agony because it means I can't put any weight on it and my lower back goes into spasm. This usually only happens if I lift something badly, or slip or whatever, but the last two weeks it's been a regular occurrence. DM is a retired physio, wondering if it might be worth investigating SPD and seeing if this could be related?

Also, enjoy SOFAI series. Prepare to not want to put it down, even to pee

twiglet around 20 weeks in last time I first felt this horrendous pain as I swung my leg to get out of the car, my pelvis felt very loose and walking became a problem, I didn't need crutches or anything but I did need to give up work as soon as I could.

This time I'm only 13 weeks and can feel the familiar loosening so will call my midwife who will hopefully refer me to physio so I can get a belt which keeps everything together.

Getting out of bed hurts too and I try to keep my legs closed too.

Welcome back Posy! Glad to hear you're feeling better!

And Twiglet that spa break sounds amazing! What a fantastic DM you have - go and enjoy!

I'm a few pages in and already hooked

Gawd...supposed to be working and my Day by Day Pregnancy Book has just arrived in the post. Gaaaaaahhhhh.

I'm so mad! I rang to tell a friend in Aus about the pg and I hardly got a reaction just her talking about herself. I then tried to make a joke saying that I had 2 sips of champagne on the w'end and didn't like the taste anymore. She then proceeded to lecture me about drinking! I have been so good not drinking at all and also gave up smoking and all she did is put me down :(

twiglet - bet yr mum was so pleased to be able to do that for you and go for it. as you say - you can treat her to something nice whilst there. If she would like to temporarily "adopt" a pg 42 yr old in scotland for the trip too - i would be more than willing!!! you can always send yr dp a postcard or get him a nice sombrero souvenir . . .

venus - that is a shame, its hard not to get a really nice positive response. some people just rain on any parade.
Well done on the drinking and no smoking - i have done the same and chew more gum whilst pg than i ever did in my nightclubbing days..

Venus - that is ridiculous from your friend. Sounds like a case of jealousy to me!

Re drinking: you can actually drink 1 glass of wine a day (if you want to). I used to be a massive fan of wine but have gone off it since being pregnant, but have had the occasional half glass. So long as you aren't binge drinking or getting drunk there is no harm whatsoever (medically proven) and a couple of sips is undoubtedly no worse for you than exposure to toxins you get every day when you walk outside.

Twiglet I would definitely accept the spa trip. If anything, being unable to afford to go away otherwise makes it more important that you take her up on it.

Venus there's always some people who are going to make it all about them!

True indeed Weeonion. I should just focus on the nice responses I have received. I know I'm doing all the right things (except maybe too much chocolate) and that's what counts. Congrats to you for giving up smoking. I can't say I feel better for it but I must be saving a lot of money.

Funniest thing Mistake is that she drank wine most nights while pg. I remember it so well as she had a egg cup she drank out of as that was her portion control. I do not understand her behaviour and won't be calling her anytime soon.

Back to boobies, I succeeded in the pencil test for the first time in my life. Wow! What an achievement!

-looks at boobs.... looks at pencil- Nope. Not a chance.

Venus, she's clearly employing a very useful selective memory. Ignore her and maybe avoid talking to her for a while! Well done you for giving up smoking, too - even with the baby as motivation, it's so hard to break the habit. Give yourself a big pat on the back every day you go without one to remind yourself what an achievement it is

weeonion, there might be room in my suitcase...?

Sooo, I just had an embarrassing incident in the office. Decided not to bring in snacks today as finally feeling pretty much normal and know I am eating a lot, though I do have a mega metabolism normally anyway. So am sitting in my chair ignoring the increasingly loud and uncomfortable stomach rumbles for about half an hour. Suddenly notice it's lunch time. Stand up to tell the boss I'm going for lunch and BOOM, lights out! The accountant lady apparently did a very Baywatch-y dive across the room and half caught me so no damage done, but a bit mortifying! Even after I woke back up had terrible shakes, was sweating, the works!

Note to self: do NOT let yourself get hungry!!!

oh god twiglet - you ok now? (and well done on yr baywatch colleague)

Feel completely fine now I've eaten. As good as new.

Am fervently thankful that I wore thick tights under my dress today!

Heartburn- I have been suffering really badly since 6 weeks preg, and after going to GP and being prescribed Ranitidine (totally safe) I am fine. It's like a miracle!

Thrush- I had super thrush (ie, couldn't get rid whatever I did) all through both my previous pregnancies and breastfed both babies for over a year, but never had thrush in my breast or babies mouth.
Interestingly, not a trace of it this time round, weird!