November 1014 - thread 5 - the rainbow collective romping (and limping) into 2nd trimester!

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hi folks - thought we should have a new thread!

Just catching up here too. Thank goodness for half term!

Petal, maybe go to the doc to ask about anti nausea meds? I am still feeling sick/vomiting occasionally and that makes me miserable, let alone feeling it 90% of the time like you still!

Anna, so glad you got to see all was ok at a scan finally. How are you today?

Starting to miss wine and pimms at the moment as we hit BBQ season! I found juice in m&s which is lemon and mint which is doing well for me just now.

Alita, I was wondering the same thing about the pulse in my stomach, I have been feeling that for the last few days but am confused by it! Really looking forward to feeling baby move .

Anna, that must have been so scary but DELIGHTED that you finally met baby! Did they offer to tell you gender? I'm so impatient to find out!

Petal, you poor thing, that sounds horrendous. I would definitely see the doctor about medication, I spent a month feeling sick and that was bad enough, 4 months is unbearable.

Mismy, that sounds very unpleasant, I had a few days with a trapped nerve and that wasn't nice but what you describe sounds really nasty.
I've found this amazing cream is Fisiocrem which is a bit like a Deep Heat/Freeze type thing but completely natural and safe in pregnancy. It's been helping with my aching ribcage and swollen ankles as its for muscular and joint aches and pains - on Amazon.
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00DTY2I3Q?pc_redir=1401066614&robot_redir=1
Glad I'm not the only one missing a cold summery tipple, I hasn't even THOUGHT about Pimms!

thanks for the tip ellikins at midwife today so we ask.if i can get anything on free prescriptions (win).

tigsy - can't imagine what its like working nights pregnant you poor thing (though im sure after 20-22 weeks they shouldn't let u work nights might be makin that up or have changed from last pg)

bit late but just to touch on birth plans i think is strange they want you to plan one of the unpredictable events in your life. you have no idea when or how baby will arrive ( unless u have a booked cs but even then anything else could happen)
isn't it enough to just say.... can i just see how it goes and decided at the time?
i hate making plans if i kinda know they won't turn out how i want in any aspect of my life never mind bringing a new one into the world.

Sorry, can I just say that Fisiocrem should not be anywhere near that expensive! I'm sure you can get it for about £6 not £21!
I finally learn how to post a link and don't check what I'm posting!

As for a birth plan, so far in my head, my birth plan is much more about;

What I definitely don't want;
I don't want to be hooked up to a monitor constantly, (unless really necessary), I don't want lots of bright lights, I don't want students in the room, I don't want unnecessary internal examinations, I don't want to be induced (Well, I might!), I don't want things to escalate in terms of intervention, I don't want an episiotomy and I don't want forceps!

The things I definitely do want; I want to be mobile and active, I want music, I want the option of a birthing pool, I want people to be quiet around me to help me stay focused on attempting (ha!) to Hypnobirth and most of all I want to reserve the right to change my mind and have every single drug and intervention available to me at the drop of a hat.

Who am I kidding, I don't want to give birth at all!!!

I'm very very scared of it and the only thing that will keep me relatively calm is the illusion of having some control.

I am also going to meet with a doula in the next few weeks as I fear my DP will be not cope well with my pain and fear and the hospital in general, I think he will be inclined to want me to do exactly as I am told rather than trusting my body and will instantly side with the midwives etc out of anxiety rather than defend my wishes and my plan. He is very uncomfortable with hospital and will not discuss the birth yet, I think because he is scared and wants to pretend it won't actually happen, instead a stork will deliver baby!
I'm sure he will be amazing when it comes to it, but I can't see him helping much with massages and hypnobirthing scripts!
I know he'll try but I'm not confident in his ability due to HIS lack of confidence.
The doula has lots of experience and seems lovely and calm and confident and as she is still mentored, she is relatively cheap.
I'd rather have a 2nd hand cot and pram and spend £300 on having amazing labour support - I think.

Anyone else used or considering a doula?

i wouldn't expect quiet on a labour ward.... lots of noise from other rooms. but it was encouraging to me ... screaming swearing more screaming.... then a baby cry. lovely

Ha, yes, that's a very good point, not exactly going to be quiet I suppose!
I think I mean midwives bustling in and discussing me loudly and then being all in my face, demanding to 'have a look' at my progress and being all brusque.
In reality I expect I'll be high as a kite on gas and air and in so much pain I really won't give a monkeys!
Great point about other births and hearing babies crying, that would definitely spur me on.
Blimey, can't quite believe 'birth' is going to happen to me - it's always been quite an abstract concept that happens to 'other people'.

my birthing experience was very positive. the midwifes were wonderful i had a change over though as one left an other took over but both were lovely calm. they always asked about 'checking progree' and i didn't feel pressured to say yes... but at 40 +14 i was like 'yeah help your self just get her out'.
i did allow a student midwife to both in my check ups birth and aftercare everyone has to start somewhere and there was alway an experienced one on hand. but i feel the same about any training medical professional pregnant or not but that is just my own opinion.
feeling rather positive about the birth... its one day and as soon as you hold the baby all the pain dosnt matter anymore. and after weeks months... you heal and forget (you have a million other things to think about now).
hope my story made worried expectants abit less worried x

Thanks, it does!
I think when the time finally comes I'll be so keen to get it over and baby out that I'll be a lot less precious!

Tigsy try to get a letter tomorrow excusing you from nights for the rest of your pregnancy. I did, and am thrilled. I didn't even know you could do that, but a colleague who's had three put me straight!

Petal please get some anti-nausea meds, cos F**K THAT! [massive hugs]

No pain today, thanks all Ellie I didn't ask for gender cos DH wasn't with me. I was trying not to look myself, but umbilical cord was hanging between the legs anyway so I don't think I could have made anything out even by accident. Am dying to know also!

Anyone find some people being slightly sniffy when you say you want to find out the gender? I haven't had ONE person react anyway other than rather haughtily say: "Oh I didn't, you get so few suprises in life...." hairtoss

Most people actually find it the normal thing to do, to find out the gender. At least that's what I inferred from their responses. And also telling everyone else. Although if it's a girl I might think twice about telling people to prevent nanas buying horrible, pink, frilly dresses

That's so funny annarose, I've had the exact opposite reaction when telling people we are not finding out. Everyone has looked at me like I'm a nutter and said why on earth would I bother waiting until the birth!! My mum in particular finds it very inconvenient.
I think you're either one way or the other, and it's either tearing you apart not knowing or you're a bit meh.

afternoon all!
hope you are all well. I have quickly scanned through thread so apologies for lack of personal responses to people.

Elliekins - i am also getting a doula. I already know her and doing our proper first meet next monday after my 20 week scan! feeling v excited to sit and talk things over with her. She is also trained in hypnobirthing so hoping i can get on one of her courses too as so many seem to be through the day when i am working..

I guess others must have their 20 week can next week too - cant believe we are round to that stage already!!

I was at home with my family at the weekend to break the news. They were as expected - so happy, pleased, excited, positive and supportive!

DP told his family too. They were as expected - cold, uninterested and rude with comments ranging from "oh that must be a mistake", "you must have had real problems conceiving - it took you 7 years" to "oh no - not another baby this year".

We have also told wider family and friends now with lots of congrats flooding in . All positive so far with only 2 vague hints at "you must be mad to want sleepless nights again after all this time!"

As we already know the sex - it has been funny to see people guessing. Most people so far have got it completely wrong but then again - they have been basing it on what feels right to them, what kind of bump i have and what they think would "fit" best into our wee family. All very scientific of course

I am way off camping for 3 days from early in the morning. Given this is Scotland in the summer - it is predicted we will have torrential rain. Oh fab!

Have a good week all!

Just catching up with everything - this thread moves so quickly!

I'm another one who's happy to admit I miss drinking - it's my only real vice and pre-pregnancy I did indulge a fair bit! I've had the odd half of Guinness and on Sunday I had a glass of bubbly with my parents - we're going to France for long weekend in July and I'll allow myself a glass or three of red wine then too. I'm a g&t drinker too and tonic with ice, a dash of elderflower cordial and a squeeze of lime is a convincing substitute

We've had a less than relaxing bank hol as DH is replacing our bathroom roof (the bathroom is a ground floor single storey part at the back of the house) which has meant him being occupied all weekend, the garden being full of old roof bits and us now having a roof minus tiles but no bathroom ceiling and therefore no lights! Which is great when I need to go for a wee at 3am... Plus he managed to break the shower head so I had to run a bath this morning, which was fine apart from the boiler kept going off and I had to reset it 4 times to get enough hot water to wash my hair!

midwife visit all is well and good strong heart beat found straight away. very happy
they said keep an eye on hips if they don't improve to tell them and well i dont know what they do.... monitor it i guess.

I considered a doula but they're expensive and I'm already having my dp and my Mum there, I can't really have a doula too!

good news mismylinford. Good to keep them informed of your hips - they could probably find some intervention to help. The last time - i got a lovely belt to wear around my hips which helped tho to be honest my joints werent as bad as others.

alita - my doula is about £400 so i agree - not cheap! i will have dp but no-one else as partners and also as having a homebirth - want the added support!

Thanks for the hugs ladies :-) Have just been to the doctors (because you told me to! I think i would have just stuck it out in a sulk!)
Have been given some anti-sickness tablets and some for heartburn (not Gaviscon because it doesn't seem to work for me.)
Doctor repeated herself a few times that the risks to baby are unknown about anti-sickness tablets which makes me think i may be doing some harm now by taking them...
I have posted on the pregnancy thread to see if anyone else has used the ones i have just been given. I might try and save them for particularly busy days when i need to feel OK.

Have just rang the hospital about my 20 week scan as have not heard and no appointment had been made. Receptionist was a bit off, I did need to make sure it wasn't a day when I am at school and told her that so at least now I know when it is! CAN'T WAIT to find out the gender and EVERYONE I have spoken to has said they would have a surprise. I found out last time (2 different ultrasounds around 20 weeks so got it confirmed in my eyes) and bought lots of little pale pink onesies so need to know this time if I need a different colour! I am rubbish at surprises :-) Too excited!

DD has been entertaining me today while i have laid on the sofa. She was doing a puzzle on the carpet and looked around to me
DD:Are you asleep?
Me:No
DD:Are you a sandwich?
Me:No
DD:Are you a football?
Me:No
DD:Are you a carrot?
And so it went on, she thought she was very funny :-D

Later...
Me:Would you like pasta or a sandwich for lunch?
DD:I would like cake
Nice try... :-D She is making me feel better :-)

(Sorry for long post!)

midwife visit all is well and good strong heart beat found straight away. very happy
they said keep an eye on hips if they don't improve to tell them and well i dont know what they do.... monitor it i guess.

ops Haha sorry repost

Petal that was unhelpful and untrue from the doctor.

I'm guessing they've given you Cyclizine or Promethazine? I've got HG so have been through many drugs and loads of research and people have been using them as anti-emetics in pregnancy for decades with no ill effects noted at all.

Have a look on the HG thread if you are worried as we have loads of info on safety and all the medical guidelines to put your mind at ease.

Not sure how to post a link so this may or may not work!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/2063618-Hyperemesis-Support?pg=37&order=#add_message

Evening all. Good to hear news about positive scans for Anna, nausea meds for petal and a heartbeat for missmy! I have been to Gp after recent UTIs - they're not keen to put me on a low dose antibiotic unless they can actually grow something (because I've been at out-of-hours 3x and they can't send samples) and because they think it's to do with my previously irritable bladder! So I now have a standing order to send samples off as and when in the hope that they catch it and can culture it. I agree but hope it doesn't end up recurring! Also the hip pain when I lie on my side is bursitis and there's nothing they can do. So all in all nothing too serious but irritating none the less.

Everyone seems very organised with regard to thinking about birth plans. I have not done anything, bought anything or told anyone yet. Think I'm worried I will jinx it? Anyone else feel like that after previous MC? 15 weeks tomorrow and a week to 16 week appt - just hope she will listen for HB! Might make me relax. Oooh and in even more exciting news I found the mojito mix in Sainsburys! Will update on quality later...

Hello, thought I would pop by and say hello. Not much good at keeping up but will try! Edd is 20th Nov, 2nd child, dd is 2 in a few months. Not yet told work which is my biggest anxiety and something I will have to try and do this week.
Would also kill for a laaaarge glass of Rioja now.
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Hi again everyone! Been away from the thread for a few days as we've had Ds's birthday on Friday and then mine on Saturday, plus my mum and sister over the same weekend, so a very busy few days in our house!

After feeling rather pleased with myself this week when I realised that I hadn't been sick in over a fortnight, and hadn't even felt very sick for a good week or so, I randomly started chucking up again this morning! Oh, the joys! I'm 15+ 4 today, and I seem to remember I had sickness on and off til about 17 weeks with DS, so I suppose it could still come and go for a little while yet :(

Hi everyone, haven't posted in a while but looks like everyone is progressing nicely. I'm 14.5 weeks ( only), it feels likes it's taking ages and the 20 week scan is yonks away! Can't bear the wait so I was thinking of having a private reassurance scan maybe next week ie 15.5 weeks. Has anyone else had another scan between the 12 and 20 week one? I mentioned this to a few people at work today and they told me not to be silly and to wait, apparently it will fly by but I just can't wait and want to know that everything is ok!

Feeling fab today until just before 5, when I was serving someone at the counter (I work in a bank) and had a big twangy pain like an elastic band boinging inside my tummy a couple of inches above my belly button, then another one less than a minute later. It wasn't mega painful and reading my green notes it says phone for mega pain or bleeding so I've not rang midwife team or EPU.
No pain since so I've put it down to stretching or possibly my tights being too tight