June 2014: New Year, new trimester, new thread! June bugs no 7!!

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Ding dong!

wispa I don't think it sounds crazy if you think someone would really help (ie maybe do a night feed) and if you are breastfeeding it will probably be the easiest flight you will do in the next two years! Babies (even my insomniac DD) seem to sleep really well on planes and everyone will help you on the plane. The only thing that would have stopped me with DD at that age was my own tiredness but if your mum can have the baby for a few hours while you have a nap it should be brilliant. Only downside is if they plan on doing lots of activities which you might be a bit tired for.

I am seriously considering a trip in August, either camping (I think that might be crazy but with a very tiny baby it should be easy enough to strap to me and carry on) or a cottage somewhere so DD can enjoy the summer and won't go too mad (Dh can do entertaining of DD!)

sleepy we have plastic lidded boxes. We have ones with DD's clothes from smaller and DH's cycling stuff. Plus Xmas decorations and a ton of other random stuff! They work really well.

Wispa- not mad at all, sounds like a great idea. Go for it.

DH and I have always loved holidays and travelling and don't intend to let the baby stop this.

And you should make the most of the free flights for baby! You'll have to pay for it when they reach 2.

about flight with babies im sure some of you will totally disagree with me but i think newborns should stay at home, why?! last october me and dh were coming back from our honeymoon, we had 2 flights each 7 hours, i tried to sleep and switch my brain off but dh couldn't, on the way back we had a newborn flying with us and baby around 9-12 mths, its was horrible, absolutely horrible, they cried a lot! all people looked at these couple with anger and sympathy...i tried not to think or listen to their crying as i was already pregnant and was imagining myself flying with a kid, but i really felt sorry for those who cant sleep on a plane like my dh, then try to imagine our condition in the end of the flight...

I do hear where you are coming from mylittlel but disagree.
I think that's the gamble you take on public transport. People may have to fly for all manner of personal reasons and have to take children with them.
I normally just feel sorry for both parents and child if I hear baby crying and always try to think of I have something in my bag that might help!

If not I order wine for me and hope the flight goes smoothly for family.

Wispa I think if you feel you can manage and will enjoy the benefits of spending time with your family I would go.

wispa I think it sounds like a great idea - I was going to fly out to visit DM for her 60th birthday in September, the only reason we're now doing it in November instead is because I'm too cheap to book flights twice, for September and Christmas!

I can't wait, it'll be a lovely long holiday for us (plan on staying about 4-6 weeks) and DH will join us for 2 weeks over Christmas and we'll all fly back together. I'm actually hoping to sneak in a 2-3 day trip to Euro Disney in for DH and I while baby stays with my mother.

I think it's better to travel with a newborn (or 8 week Old in wispa's case)
At that age they generally eat, poo, sleep - so if they are crying generally it's going to be because they're hungry or they're dirty. I travelled with a toddler and a 4 month old on a 6.5 hour flight. The baby hardly a peep, the toddler was everywhere.....talking to everyone, luckily she's never been a crier - but I was knackered from just entertaining her.

Wispa - I would also vote for going for it. I have seen babies fly to Australia with no problems - I have to admit my heart sunk when I saw him when we got on but no problems at all. Even if the baby cries then its just one flight for the other passengers - am sure it will be fine. As a family we are desperate for a holiday - not had a proper one for a couple of years.

Had meeting - the thing DS wanted to talk about was when he is 20 and working as a scientist policeman and me and DP are working with him he would like to be in charge! We did cover naming protocol as well and have establish that although we like hearing his views the name is up to me and DP.

I feel like I should put a disclaimer against my last post as I do realise not all babies only cry when they are hungry wet and dirty.....I'd hate for some of you newbies to be cursing me in a few months time!

Ah Red, the world does not have enough scientist policemen. Look after that boy!!!!

Finally caught up again with all of you.

Now, how to tell my hubby that the smell of fajitas he's made is turning my stomach?

I agree with the others. In my experience it is so much easier flying with babies than toddlers! If you have a sling take it as they are really handy for airports, and for the baby to sleep in leaving you with hands free. And if you are breastfeeding it will be so much easier. But there are ways to manage formula as well.

And you can just as easily have a 5 year old who is playing up, has sore ears whatever and is crying and playing up for a lot of the flight. Or should we all stay home until our children are teenagers? In my experience most people are sympathetic. And those that aren't bloody well should be! We've got really good at giving death glares to people why roll their eyes. It's a useful skill as a parent!

We were on a long overnight flight on the way to our honeymoon. There was a couple with a baby next to us and I was really worried they'll keep us awake. I was so wrong! Baby was really quiet and didn't cry once. However, we had 3 young children (5-8yo my guess) behind us who were making lots of noise, kept their lights on and generally enjoyed themselves whilst kicking our seats all night long. AND guess what - their parents slept through SIX ROWS AWAY. I was livid!

I've been on loads of long haul flights with babies and children, and sometimes they cry and sometimes they're fine. I don't think it means we should all stay home with the babies until they're older.

mylittlel that is a risk unless you fly first class unfortunately.
My family lived a 12 hour flight away. My DD flies frequently (done that route 6 or 7 times), been to Asia and the US plus many flights to France. We try to keep her from disturbing people (she is 5now and you never hear a peep out of her) but it not always possible. And I wouldn't have put off seeing any of my family until she was 5!

I'm another who says go for it. I travel loads long haul and have never once had an issue with babies. It's usually the adults getting drunk and talking loudly that keep me up on over night flights!

Preggo whinge time.... When am I going to stop looking fat and get a bump?! Slightly over weight (bmi 25) so there was some fat there before but just look like I'm getting a beer belly rather than bump . 17+4 and miserable. Getting fat, no movement, boobs have exploded in size.... I think now 32 EE/F no preggo glow.... Hmph

lady im sure there are lots of people who think that parents should stay home until children are teenagers, but no one will be too brave to say)

its a tough situation- should we care about our babies and our needs or think about others as well as us ( those with whom we share same flight)?!

Mitchell2 im the same, i think i look fat not preggers, but my cousins says that i def look pregnant, maybe its just the way we feel-big, but for others its more obvious)

Not really a tough situation. People with children are as entitled to travel as anyone else. I've had to endure flights with plenty of loud, obnoxious, inebriated adults in my time. My kids have been on flights maybe a couple of times per year all their lives and never been more than a minor annoyance to others. I would say a child screaming etc for hours is probably in serious pain for some reason or other and most people would be sympathetic - especially those who have had or are intending to have children.

And even if people are a little annoyed, it's 7 hours out of their entire lives and they should get over themselves. Everybody was once a child FFS.

It is attitudes like this that make me hate this country sometimes - in Spain or Italy people are totally lovely and understanding about children. They would offer to help rather than tutting and giving evils to people who may be struggling. The children should be seen and not heard attitude is just horrible.

My DSis had a man who was completely drunk standing in the aisle pulling on her seat for an 8 hour flight.

I was thinking of myself, my parents, my aunts and uncles who dote on DD and putting them all first by selfishly travelling to see them with my DD.

Mitchell and mylittlel I'm the same! I was desperate for my bump to appear but now that it has I just feel like frump

Went out for my first run this morning since finding out I was pg. I was amazed at how far I managed and felt really good afterwards! Hoping to start pregnancy yoga soon too - can't wait to start feeling fitter again

Mylittle, I'm another one that if my I didn't fly with my baby/child I wouldn't see any of my family, as I'm Canadian and none of them live outside of North America. I think that's a very unfair thing to say that parents with children shouldn't be allowed to fly. It's only 7 hours out of someone's life and they most likely would not be crying much, and definitely not an entire flight.

Oh, and as for the bump, I think I finally have something of one. For the first time my H said today that I actually look like I'm showing! Woohoo! I still think I just look fat, though.

of course children are entitled like any other human being, you cant expect everyone to be nice to you, it will be fake, would you prefer fakeness over reality?! thats the thing to us-parents our kids are minor annoyance to others it can be equal to nuisance regardless of baby being nice and cute, I am having a child and ive picked to go on local holidays over flight pain for myself and others.

I do think that some mothers\parents are ignorant and/or dont learn their kids manners, does it make me a bad mum-to-be or person? and lots of kids pushed me, injured me etc etc shoulld i smile in their faces as well and say-aaaw, s\he is just a kid?! dont think so