August 2014. What a Christmas present!

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Thread number 2 ladies.

It's a perfect Christmas present for me!

Ah, FEE, I'm sorry the scan wasn't very reassuring.

If you are early 6 weeks then it's very early to even have symptoms really.

It's impossible not to worry, isn't it?

I think I preferred a June baby; at least I'd had my 12 week scan two weeks before Christmas and could relax and enjoy it a bit more.

Missvaughn, I feel worse / more anxious this time too. It's strange really. :-/

Flymo I haven't had a period as such since 2011 as I had my son, then breastfed, then had the implant, which just gave me the odd bit of spotting (last time was July) so i have no LMP to go by. My implant was removed on the 4th November and we have sex once since then, although we can't remember when that was - I was thinking it was a few days after my implant came out but it might have been a week or more after?? I was hoping she might give me a more accurate due date but it was a private scan so perhaps she's not as skilled at dating as a sonographer in a EPU?? she also only scanned me abdominally which surprised me as when I had an scan at 6 weeks with my first pregnancy (after a bleed) they did an internal scan. I've just got to hope that when I go back in 2 weeks, that everything has progressed. Wish Christmas wasn't in the way though, it would have been nice to be able to say we'd seen the heartbeat before telling all the family at Christmas!

FEEdec, I was offered an early "reassurance" scan, but didn't want it for that very reason. I'd rather not have that worry just now.

Something I read online yesterday is that some women have a tilted uterus, and their babies sometimes don't show up on ultrasound as early as expected, and often a woman will be diagnosed with a blighted ovum and offered ERPC when in fact the baby is there and perfectly healthy. Shocking! Some woman in the US has been campaigning to educate sonographers on this. So, it is one very good reason to avoid early scans unless there's a medical need, and if told there's nothing there make sure you ask if you have a tilted uterus, and don't opt for ERPC for a blighted ovum unless you are 11/12 weeks (by which point baby should be visible even in a tilted uterus, though will look smaller than expected because it's further away).....

FEE, private scans are all abdominal and they won't date you either as that's for the NHS to do. They are literally there for reassurance only. Which means if it isn't reassuring there isn't much you can do.

Most of the private ones won't do it before 7-8 weeks for that reason either.

That's interesting Ruggle. I didn't know that.

Sorry for your loss Morgan - agree with Ruggle, there are some lovely and very wise ladies in the miscarraige section if you need them x

Missv - get yourself to Boots and get the liquid lactulose, it should ease up your tummy aftet a couple of days. I remember that last time and its painful I agree with the worrying too, we need to try and stay positive

Fee sorry to hear you didnt have much news at your scan, good luck for the NY one and that should reassure you a bit more.

Im holding out till Saturday to do my digi and see what that says then I will ring the GP after xmas to book in

Yummie - hope your not melting too much in Oz are you coming back over to the UK to have your baby? sorry havnt read old thread!!

FEE, some private places will do dating and internal scans. I'm booking one for beginning of January at a local place near me, I had my gender and 4d scan there with my DS2 and they do dating and use a internal scanner from 6 weeks and 2 images for £50. They're called insight. Maybe look around if you want another before Xmas?

That's good, Rose, all the ones round here don't do either.

But that isn't a 'brand' we have up here I don't think. But we're quite limited unless we trek into Liverpool. There aren't any places in our actual town.

ahh, Fee, that explains some of your confusion around dating then. I feel a bit the same about Christmas but then OH says that it will take our minds off it and I suppose he's right. For me, being at work is the worst (all day on MN, googling about symptoms etc)! when I'm at home I'm far more easily distracted!

The fewer scans the better. They aren't 100% safe and should only be done when there's a medical necessity. One or two througout pregnancy is suggested as safe by the medical profession, but not enough research has been done into the effects of many, or 3d/4d scans. One study has shown that they do effect the brain, causing left handedness. If they can "cause" anything at all I'd be using them as minimally as possible. In high risk pregnancies they are a necessity, obviously, but the private companies offering them are just playing us for money.

I've not heard that about scans, Ruggle. Have you got a link to the research?

I don't think we are going to have a private one this time though. What with Christmas and new year, we may as well wait the extra 3 or so weeks.

Still not feeling overly pregnant today. It's crazy that I'm willing morning sickness to start!

This being my first pregnancy I'm very nervous but I won't be having any scans until the NHS 12 week one. Reassurance from earlier scans is probably only temporary and what will be will be anyway.

2 weeks till my booking appointment and then another few weeks till the 12 week scan. Hoping time will fly by!

The reassurance from our 8 week scan last time lasted approximately 24 hours! It's lovely to see the 'bean' but it is definitely not necessary.

My last pregnancy was high risk so I had a lot of scans. I'm only having an early one (maybe, I'll see how I feel in January) due to a history of MC but they were all 4/5 weeks so I think I'll feel less worried by January and I'm about 8 weeks so I'll see.

I'd love the reassurance but I don't think I could cope with it being so short lived. I'm very nervous about the whole pregnancy too, I'm a first timer. I talked to DH about it last night and he said the typical man thing of, "if it was necessary, the NHS would do it for everyone, the private companies are just after your money and we could use that on something else for the baby". He did redeem himself slightly by saying I needed to trust my body and if it's right for us now, then it will all be OK..... I'm on annual leave this week so have way too much thinking time, once I get back to work next week I know I'll have other things on my mind so I will probably cope a bit better!

As for upset bowels.... I have IBS and it is going crazy. anyone else suffer with IBS? I know mine is triggered by hormones so it's just going into overdrive.

I had an early scan on Monday at 8+2, I'm worried again already today as my sickness is slightly better and I am having twinges. I just wish I could fast forward to Jan 15th my nuchal scan and have everything ok.

Interesting to hear the different views on scans. I've decided to have a private one just before 9 weeks. I know that's just a few weeks from my 12 week one, but several friends, a cousin and a sister all lost their babies at around 8 weeks (my best friend lost 4) and that's causing me a lot of worry. Just booking it has made me feel a bit better, even though I know it won't mean anything for sure. I'll take what I can get right now...

it has to come down to personal choice, whether you go for an early scan or not is the same as with every decision we are going to make through this agonising process. You could weigh up the probabilities for every single option and still not be able to predict what will happen. I'm sure it's about knowing yourself - if you know you wouldn't be able to cope up to 12 weeks and it may be comforting to see the bean as early as possible, but still handle the uncertainty for the remaining weeks then it seems like an attractive option. If you feel that 12 weeks is a landmark and you're prepared to wait then you wouldn't worry about paying out. I would just say that there should be more advice about what to expect at the 12 week scan, I can be certain that it is totally destroying to find that you've waited that long and it's not what you'd hoped. The NHS should probably do more to prepare people for this occurrence.

I'm starting to wonder if I’ve made a hasty decision by booking in for an early scan, I’ll be 8/9 weeks by then all being well, but reading peoples experiences I could still lose the baby.

But I think for me I need to know something is there because of my last blighted ovum, if last time I'd actually lost a 'baby' I'd probably not bother with scan, but seeing that empty sac on the screen at 12 weeks, I don't think I can make it another 4 weeks thinking that’s going to happen, if there’s a baby on screen on 30th and then I lose it at least I had something to lose in the first place if you understand. Because something 'wasn't right'. People kept saying that to me after last MC and I wanted to scream 'there wasn't anything there to not be right, just an empty sac'

I'm so up and down it's unbelievable. It's so sad to hear of all the losses on here i'm so sad for everyone :(

Pina, I think that's totally understandable, and the chances are almost certainly in your favour xxx

So sorry to hear of all the losses on here.

My last pregnancy was a 9week mc and I had scans at 6, 7 and 8 weeks due to bleeding. They gave me real false hope and I've decided if I bleed again this time I won't have an early scan as I couldn't cope with being told 'heartbeat seen all is well' to then lose it a week later.

Just my experience though

Thanks Flymo xx

I guess what will be will be, theres not much we can do about it but pray that everything will be ok.

I keep thinking to myself this is just the start of the worry, It must be soooo much worse when you have an ACTUAL baby to look after!! A real person!! Whaaaat have we done :)

My mum keeps saying one day at a time, thats all we can do x

I don't think there are any right or wrong decisions regarding early scans, it's just what is right for you.

If you see a heartbeat at 8 weeks you are VERY unlucky to then miscarry as the chance of miscarriage drops dramatically then.

I'm sorry for everyone on here who's suffered a loss of a pregnancy. I can only imagine how awful it is and hope that I'm lucky and never experience it and that none of you have to go through it again.

Sharkey is right re scans being a personal choice.

On the up side for me my morning sickness has just started. Lovely! :-)

Oh, and I'm now getting round ligament pain while sneezing. Ouch.