due in august - part 7

[janeggybee]

hello bellies!!!

Have just done this after the other thread thats going atm.

I hope this works...

\link{Madison\My dd}

Turn your sound up too!

ahhh feck

try again

\link{http://Madison\Pleeeeaaassseee}

Are you keeping us in suspense yellow?

Gawd this heats making me nausious & exausted(sp?). Just cant do anything. So difficult to do bags for hospital , Ive done what I can today but using a fair bit of it still. I just want to tick it all off.

So so sorry to hear your news sarahlou, my little doggies are buried under rose bushes in my mums old garden. I remember them fondly , they were a funny pair.

ooops X posts yellow.

Ha cracked it!

My dd for real!

Yellow I signed up for an account which is what that link took me to, but I never saw your thing! Try again!

I haven't had the chance to catch up properly will do in a min but just wanted to say...

SarahLou...I can totally understand how you feel atm Our family dog (labrador) had the exact same thing happen to him and it was awful, he had a stroke and couldn't walk, was sliding down the walls, it was heartbreaking...he was wimpering as he had a "accident" in the house because he couldn't control his bowels etc, god makes me well up just thinking about it we had him from me being a child and he died when i was 19 YO and he was like my brother (sounds corny), he died (a few hours later) with us all around him, smelling my dads hand, it was the one and only time i have ever seen my dad cry like a baby , we all were sobbing.

I just wanted to say how i am thinking of you (really i am) i know how tough and heart wrenching it is.xxxxx

oh pucca that's brought tears to my eyes!

ooh pucca what an emotional memory .

I wanna see your montage yellow , I know such a child I am.

aaaaggghhh i need some air does anyone know how long this is supposed to go on for

sarahlou. i sobbed for weeks when my cats died. it's unbearable for a while but it does get better. give ds a big hug from all of us.

sorry to hear about your dog Sarahlou

BHM - it wasnt my dh getting pi**ed (although making an arse of himself, possibly, yes !!)

cant believe it is so hot - 32 here today and going up I believe - at least only 4 more days at work. went for a swim after work (ok, no real swimming but floating around in my big tyre in the sun!) it was bliss after my 30 degrees classroom!!

lol at sieving out the crap - hadnt really thought about it - maybe i need to read into the waterbirth thing before i put it into my birth plan!

Right here goes...

AGAIN!

Yellow!! It worked!! Well done! She is adorable!!! I take it that was you and DH in the family pic as well? You are a lovely looking family!!

good morning ladies hope you all cope with the heat again today Im off to my sisters today to sit in her back garden in the shade and be waited on. At least I slept last night although possibly through sheer exhaustion than a drop in temperature.

yesterday was a waste of time the consultant would not give me a definate answer re my section but has arranged for me to go on a your of the midwife led care unit and consultant led care unit and to meet both senior midwifes and chat about procedures and equiptment and stuff before she will se me again to discuss things further as she doesnt want me rushing in to anything

i spent the whole time crying as i couldnt explain myself properly and was incredibly fustrated ifeel ive been fobbed off as an hysterical first timer

i then spent the next two and a half hours sobbing uncontrollably into the phone to dh and mum

my mum was really good came and fetched me and took me to hers abd after trying to get me to explain which after lots of i cants just sat ther and hugged me whilst i cried which was lovely she never does that she then got me some lunch demanded i got changed and told me to sit in pool which i did all afternoon

i still feel incredibly fustrated now about the whole thing as icant see the consultant agrreing to the section so my plan is

to go on some sort of medication to control my anxiety and to write a very detailed birth plan after talking to these mw people and see if that helps

sorry to rant im sat here crying again
sarah lou im so sorry we lost our dog last year to the heat so i know how you feel
hello to everyone i missed hope your all ok yf cant get that link to work

going into notts to try and sort out my maternity allowance
wish me luck

B

Ok, when is it you go for the tour? Is this when they will give you a definate answer?
You really need to get across your feelings for this although I am sure you will. Also if needs be, be a bit pushy not in a nasty way but positive adament kind of way IYSWIM. Say that you thought child birth was all about what the mother wants and the safety of her newborn?
Surely the anxiety and stress the thoughts of labour causes will make the situation worse hence a section being a safer and more viable option?

This really does piss me off. I get the impression its all about the hospital keeping numbers down and having pretty figures and stats
Theres thousands and thousands of women who have elective sections for all kinds of reasons.
I can't help but think if this was a private hospital you wouldn't be having this problem.

If the worst does come to the worst, like you said write out a very very detailed and to the point birth plan. Maybe start a thread on here as there are a few MW's who use this site and plenty of experienced mums . Explain what your going through and get some ideas, write out your plan and then take it to your MW at your next appt or make a seperate appt so you can have a nice long chat about it.

poor booby, i'm sorry your not getting what you want. can i just say though, even if you can't get your cs, a normal birth isn't as frightening as you'd imagine, and with all the drugs available these days it's even less scary. don't overly panic yourself about it... your body and mind have a truely amazing way of coping and as it's your first baby chances are you'll get plenty of warning and time to calm yourself in the early stages. the relaxation techniques they teach at the ante-natal classes really do work especially the breathing. i hope the consultant does see your point of view but try not to see it as too major a disaster if he doesn't as it'll only make the anxiety worse. it sounds like he's just trying to make sure you've fully considered your choice before oking the cs though so hopefully once you've talked to the midwives and explained you're feelings (definitely write everything down before the meeting) they'll give the go ahead for the cs.

dreamy - don't forget Leos are self absorbed, selfish, agressive... didn't say i wanted another one, just know he'll be one as it would be too much to hope to avoid having 2 in the house!

oops, sorry Feathers, forgot to say your dd is gorgeous, she looks like a real cheeky little thing. made me smile

pink if only the ante classes i had did include rewlaxation but they didnt they have changed it so you dont do them now i appreciate what your saying but i know that having a csection is the only way i'll keep my sanity the drugs arent going to make it any less of an extremely stressful situation

yf will think about the birth plan thread thanks for that suggestion what did me more than anything was the fact at my booking appt i was asked if i wanted a c section so why is it such a long drawn out process i dont know the consultant was being very negative she was all like so many die so many cant conceive again so many have heamorages sp? also it increases risk of pnd

i think at the moment im definately suffering with pre natal anxiety/depression im gonna ring mw today and speak to her

but thanks for the advice pink and yellow esp with you both being young and 2nd timers

point out to the consultant that statistially the safest births for mother and baby are when the mother feels safe so therefore it is in your's and the babies best interest to have the cs. maybe your mw could explain it to her for you, she sounds nice from what you said before

this is the leaflet on relaxation we got at my ante-natal class...it's quite useful for pregnancy in general not just labour so thought i'd type it out for those of you who didn't get relaxation tips.

Position - lying on your back, side-lying or sitting - well supported by pillows

Breathing - take 3 deep breaths, feeling your tummy rise and fall as you breathe out

Sequence -

shoulders -
stretch your shoulders down away from your ears
stop stretching your shoulders
feel that your shoulders are lower and your neck feels longer

elbows -
push your elbows away from your sides
stop pushing your elbows away
feel that your elbows are open and slightly away from your sides

hands -
stretch your hands, fingers and thumbs
stop stretching them outwards
feel how long and straight your fingers are as they rest

hips -
roll your hips outwards
stop rolling them outwards
feel that your legs are slightly apart and falling outwards

knees -
press your knees down into the supporting surface
stop pressing them down
feel how the supporting surface is holding up your knees

feet -
push your feet down and away
stop pushing them down
feel your feet hanging loosely from your ankles

body -
press your body back into the support
stop pressing your body back
feel the sensation of your body resting against the support

head -
press your haed back into the pillow
stop pressing it back
feel your head nestling comfortably in the hollow you have made in the pillow

jaw -
pull down your lower jaw while keeping your lips together
stop pulling it sown
feel that your teeth are no longer touching and that the jaw line is resting easy

eyes -
close your eyes
feel that the top lids are resting on the bottom lids

forehead -
stretch your forehead in the direction of the sides of your face
stop stretching your forehead
feel how smooth your forehead is

repeat breathing as above

the other main thing is to concentrate on your breathing.... focus on a point and breathe slowly out, let your breathe come in and breathe slowely out. the trick is to focus on the out breath always, not the in breathe. once the contraction, or other stressful even, has passed you resume normal breathing again.

Hi all, long time no speak....nearly there.Cant come soon enough I am HUGE I really am. My body is almost the same (except for massiv knockers)but I have this massive BUMP it aches as do I and I cant do anything in this heat.

Turns out I am almost 38 weeks with a large breech baby. They had planned to turn it today but I chickend out at last minute as there was a risk of having to have emergency cs and casuing feotal distress. The plan now is to wait one more week and have an elected cs as it is 95 centile and obvioulsy breech. This is my second and last child so I am agreeing to cs in this case. I had a wonderful natural birth last time and yes I am a little dissappointed at the outcome this week and very annoyed that my midwife did not pick up on it at 36 or even 37 weeks but hey I just want him out safely and stress free. So CS it is.

Any advice for me ladies?????

Love to you all and keep your feet up and cool I feel the swell coming on x x

boobylicious, I would really put your foot down. Your stress levels are key to this birth.

You have rights and you need to articulate them. Take your partner or mother with you next time and get them to argue your case. I cant belive they are so reluctant they cant know how upset you really are feeling.

I would argue that pnd is even more likley if you have a very stressful labour and birth..whats wrong with them? I cant stand this mentality women, should be given the information and options irrespective of consultants opinions. If you saw a diffent consultant chances are you would have a different out come as there are so many schools of thought.

I will be thinking of you and i hope you get the birth plan that you really desire.

Booby I am really sorry. Maybe if after you take the tours the consultant arranged, if you still want a section they will take you more seriously. Is the thing about a section that calms you down the fact that you will have it scheduled and you will know what is coming rather than it coming at any time with a natural birth? Dont worry about ranting hon, you can talk to us!

Freddysays - I always said if my baby was breech I would want a section too - for me the alternatives are too scary although I know its done other ways successfully all the time. Good luck!