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October 2013: Newborn snuggles and waddles to the finish line

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FeministInTraining · 15/10/2013 21:45

Stats sheet here

New arrivals here

Key:
SC - still cooking (pre EDD)
SFW - still f*ing waiting (post EDD)
OWT - on way to theatre (CS)
IP - induction in progress
SWIL - somewhere in labour
LIT - lost in transition

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Shootingstarsandcomets · 21/10/2013 05:39

Congratulations ana sounds like you did amazingly well. Get plenty of rest you will hear his cries don't worry. I think motherhood changes you so you sleep less deeply.
tarlia it's so weird I am so happy with my boys really and if you'd asked me before I would have said that I would prefer to have two boys. I'm just not sure why I feel sad now so it must just be hormones!
Hope everyone is getting some sleep......

Tarlia · 21/10/2013 06:19

ana you poor thing. Def lay down and sleep (I hope you are already). As I said on Facebook you'll def wake to him, maybe even before. If you are really worried then set a 3 hour alarm :)

shooting yes def hormones. I remember sobbing with DS1 because I went for a shower and the water was cold. It was the end of the world. I'm surprised I've not had any of that this time. Though I think it's coming now. And remember week 4 -7 being the most emotional for me last time too.

BowlFullofJelly · 21/10/2013 07:10

Congrats on all new arrivals, tucking glad you have baby back and all is well.

Emilia just slept from 11pm and 6am - I woke up in a mad panic and started prodding her to make sure she was ok.

Its DPs first day back at work today and I am pooing myself about having the 2 children on my own! Add to that I live on the 4th floor and the fucking lift is out of order, plus rain forecast all week, and I think my lovely babymoon bubble is about to burst!

tarlia yes to the milk supply 2nd time round, at 15 days today and it seems very established. I wonder whether not expressing this time has helped though - my DS was a constant feeder, and I spent most minutes when he wasn't on my boob expressing, and I think I just confused things more.

KarmaBiatch · 21/10/2013 08:28

inducement is underway, been here.for 4.5 hours now and can feel things kicking off! exciting!

just about to have my cervix checked to see if the first pill ripener for the cervix has worked! fingers crossed Grin

Readyasilleverbe · 21/10/2013 08:55

Good luck Karma! Hope it all gets going now. Xx

Pinkforboys · 21/10/2013 09:05

Congratulations Ana & whistlingThanksThanksThanks

I love the idea of cocoa rather than fennel- chocolate brownie anyone?

Pinkforboys · 21/10/2013 09:06

And good luck Karma!! It'll be interesting to hear how things are done in the States x

OrangeBlossom2 · 21/10/2013 09:21

Hello all, only up to page 5 but due another feed in a few minute so will continue catching up later.

Birth story:
Baby Thomas John was born on Thursday at 1.56 am weighing 7lb 1oz.

My waters broke at home at midday, went to hospital to check no meconium and all was fine. Sent home with an appointment for induction on Friday not expecting anything much to happen. As soon as we got home, contractions started with a vengeance. I had a bath then spent about 3 hours in the bathroom on all fours against birth ball/pile of pillows/ leaning against bath/towel rail. The tens machine really helped and my back to back baby turned during labour hoorah! My contractions were painful and frequent but never at regular intervals so we weren't sure when to go to hospital. E.g. Three 3 minute ones in 10 minutes, then 6 or 7 minutes with nothing or a short one.

We went to hospital about 8 and waited for ages in the waiting room while I knelt on a chair and then on the floor. Not particularly dignified or private (though not as bad as yours shire). Then went through to triage and was 4cm so was admitted. Unfortunately MLU full so went to delivery suite, no water birth for me. I walked very slowly hanging on to DH and by the time we got to the room I was feeling like I needed to poo so the midwife checked me again and I was 9cm. I had a small dose of diamorphine which I regret now as I was so close, but I felt I couldn't carry on for hours more an we were expecting it to be slow. It all happened quite quickly though until the very end where Thomas' head got a bit stuck and he didn't like me leaning against the back of the bed so I ended up on my back in stirrups with an episiotomy which wasn't big enough so they made it longer and three midwives came in to help. I wasn't really aware of it though and was so relieved when he arrived. He was perfect when he came out.

We didn't use the hypno birthing music or led candles etc as we were going to get the labour bag when DH went to top up the car park money but there was no time. I think my notes say the labour lasted 5 hours so they must time it from when you are 4cm and get admitted rather than when my wares broke.

Feed time now, will catch up with everyone else soon!

FeministInTraining · 21/10/2013 09:38

Morning all, have skim read but definitely can't remember much!

Baby Raphael (boy bump!) arrived at 7.41pm on Saturday weighing in at 8lb11oz about 28 hours after I began contracting. He's a big boy with wide shoulders that almost got stuck, but managed to deliver normally in MLU. Hes feeding well so far (fx) and we had an ok first night at home last night although I'm still knackered. Don't think that feeling is ever going to change somehow! Will write my birth story when I'm feeling more human.

Flowers to all the new mummies and sending massive dilating vibes to those still waiting.

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rubytwosday · 21/10/2013 10:47

Congratulations Ana, Whistling, Orange and Fem! Good luck Karma. Hope you are feeling better Nat and Flyer. So glad baby is ok and back with you Tucking.Hope the SFW crew at the back of the bus have either a lovely pre-baby day or end up SWIL! I am taking A to school today to meet my lovely work friends but going to have to sneak her in without any kids seeing her. I know the girls in my tutor group and some of my classes are dying to meet her but teenagers are horrible and germ ridden and I don't want an infected baby! Have fb people heard from MoN and Eliana? Hope they are Ok? Can someone add me to the fb group? Normally I hate it but want to see all the squishy babies.

Mnippy · 21/10/2013 10:56

Congratulations Thanks Thanks Thanks to all the new mums!

I haven't been able to catch up. Lack of time and also my concentration skills are so bad that I forget what I'm reading as I'm scrolling down the page.

But I thought I'd share with you my breastfeeding saga - in case it helps anyone. It's helped me to read what you all have been going through, good and bad. Okay, here comes the rant/info-dump!:

MnipJnr had skin to skin immediately after c-section and breastfed exclusively for the first five days. I was smug and overjoyed, and felt like a real milk machine. I could even brush my teeth while breastfeeding.

What I was ignoring was the fact that my nips were getting more and more painful. I put it down to the fact they were 'toughening up', and I fed through the pain. Midwives (albeit not breastfeeding specialists) said my latch was fine and said that pain was normal. A couple said 'ooh it shouldn't be painful' but didn't suggest anything to make it less painful. I was on strong painkillers at the time too.

By days 4-5 it felt like needles were being put through my nipples. One was actively bleeding. I ended up staring at the clock, fearing the time MnipJnr would wake up and want milk. And once he had a feed, there was no guarantee as to how much time we would have before he wanted the next one.

By the day 5 weigh-in, MnipJnr had lost too much weight. The doctors in A&E said that when he was sucking at the empty boob, he was losing more energy than he was consuming. They put us on a strict routine of 20-30min of breastfeeding followed by formula top up.

For two days we just gave formula and expressed milk - we needed to give my nipples a chance to heal. We got some sleep and started to enjoy feeding time again.

In the meantime, we had two visits from breastfeeding support workers, and improved MnipJnr's latch. He just wasn't opening his mouth wide enough, and I wasn't smacking him onto the breast fast enough. It's got better, but isn't perfect. He flails his arms around and throws his head back, and shows very little instinct for the nipple.

Anyway, now he's back to 10-20 min per boob, then about 40-60ml of formula, in 3 hour cycles. The latch is much less painful, although the 5 min wrestle before each latch is very frustrating.

My priority now is to go back to breastfeeding exclusively by increasing supply. I might never be able to do this, now I've introduced formula. But I think we made the right decision because it meant I've enjoyed these first weeks with baby instead of merely 'surviving' them. And his weight/health was more important than my desire to breastfeed.

MrsHoratioNelson · 21/10/2013 11:15

Congratulations to the new mummies Thanks

Ruby if you PM me your real name and details of what your FB picture looks like, I will add you.

Mnippy well done for being so determined - whichever way it goes it sounds like you're getting there. I've been struggling with a painful latch too, I can sympathise.

takingachance · 21/10/2013 12:07

Congratulations on the arrival of all the scrummy babies!

I can't believe Alexandra is a week old today Smile time flies and I keep thinking I must take more photos and video to remember this special time when they are so teeny tiny!

I think the baby blues are subsiding and I'm starting to feel a bit more back to normal. But a bit miffed yesterday to find a big loop of my stitches dangling down. Every time I sit down it tugs the stitches that remain on the inside. I'm going in to see the midwife today, so not sure if they will restitch or just leave - anyone had this happen?

For those breast feeding I can recommend a look round the Kellymom website for lots of help for all different breastfeeding concerns - I have found it invaluable this time and also last time with dd1.

xx

Haylebop12 · 21/10/2013 12:37

We have been neglecting the spreadsheet... no broths entered since 14th!

Oops!

Flyer747 · 21/10/2013 13:04

Any other c section ladies have staples instead of stitches?

Flyer747 · 21/10/2013 13:27

So the good news is nipples are feeling better. Latch has improved lots dp literally shoves her onto my boob. She isn't tongue tied.

New issue is she feeds for max 10-15 mins but only ever on one side then falls asleep or comes off herself.

Surely for a 9lb 10oz baby this will not be enough?!?!

Advice from my bf gurus here is needed Grin

MrsHoratioNelson · 21/10/2013 13:38

Flyer I imagine she will let you know if she's hungry!
Short feeds could be fine if you've got lots of milk and she's efficient. The weight loss/gain and her nappies will indicate if there's a problem. If that's all ok, count yourself lucky - C takes both boobs for almost exactly 30 minutes a side, but between 3 and 5 this morning he took 45-60 minutes per side, in amongstbseveral dirty nappies...

roofio87 · 21/10/2013 13:42

flyer so glad bf is going better for you. will you be going home today?

I went round to the children's centre near mine this morning just to introduce myself etc. they were lovely and will be going along to baby buddies on Wednesday. I really want to get out and meet some other mums so should be good!

Tarlia · 21/10/2013 13:47

congratulationsfem he is gorgeous. Congrats mnippy* for finding a way that suits you and your baby. I had to top up ds1 in the early days then dropped formula. It did take a bit of work to get supply up, but I pumped the opposite breast to which he was on.
Congrats on a week taking.

ruby the germ ridden teens did make me laugh. Good luck smuggling baby in.

flyer is she gaining weight? Sleeping a couple of hours between these feeds? Have you tried changeing getting DP to change her nappy once she has dropped off? This will wake her to start again. Tickling feet and behind ears when you can see her drifting should keep her awake a bit longer too. You are doing an amazing job. I was glued so cannot help with staples, sorry.

MrsHoratioNelson · 21/10/2013 14:23

Has anyone been using breast shells between feeds? Tempted to try some to try and let my nipples heal a bit. I'm using bamboo breast pads and they are lovely and soft. I found the Lansinoh ones horribly itchy by comparison. Mind you, I have almost no leakage at all, so they're just for comfort inside my bra.

claphammama · 21/10/2013 14:47

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Congrats feminist! He is gorgeous and what a lovely name. I thought it was a boy bump :-)

And congrats again ana - sounds like a long birth but, trust me, your brain will erase most of these memories...

tucking glad your little girl is back with you!

Just back from the midwife at 39+6. The baby seems OK and happy but my blood pressure really jumped up over the last 10 days and I had protein in my urine so need to go back for another check tomorrow... :-( she refused to check my cervix or perform a sweep at this stage, I will get one only at 41+1 if nothing happens before then :-( SO FED UP NOW I just want to cry all the time :-( I'm doing all I can - long walks every day, cooking very spicy curries and practically sexually abusing my DP over the last three days...

flyer so happy your nipples feel better! (I never thought I would say it to another woman but here it is! Grin) It should be just onwards and upwards for you from here! And DS always fed from only one boob at a time and went from 9 percentile at birth to 75 percentile in 3 month of breastfeeding. It all depends on how efficiently she feeds and the quality of your milk. Most probably her latch is better now so she feeds quicker and gets more milk than before. It could actually be a good sign. So happy for you. Are you definitely going home tomorrow? Do you know? (sorry if I missed it)

mnippy don't worry, I'm sure you can get your milk supply back and go back to BFing exclusively. It can take some time but can be done. I actually lost my milk completely for a few days when DS was two months old. He was a very good sleeper and started sleeping from 11pm to 7am when he was 8 weeks old. I thought I was so lucky but then lost my milk because I was skipping the night feeds. I didn't realise then that they were the most important feeds. I managed to get it back (thanks to a lovely NCT BF counsellor) by getting up every 2 hours in the night to pump my empty boobs for 30min at a time. It was terrible, exhausting and heartbreaking when nothing was coming out, but then after a few days my milk came back with a vengeance! So just persevere and it will come back.

tarlia I missed your post yesterday. Lots of hugs and Flowers for you... I still have to go through the trauma of introducing DC2 and dealing with DS's reaction... so can't relate to your feelings completely. BUT after my divorce 3 years ago I had a terrible bout of depression which resulted in having similar feelings towards my DS... and I remember how guilty and terrible it made me feel. I felt I couldn't admit my feelings to anyone. I just didn't want him around me and couldn't cope with him because, at that point, I couldn't cope even with myself. It made me feel awful at the time and I think he felt it and really rejected me at times, was so indifferent towards me too... but it was temporary, didn't leave a trace, and we are now closer than ever. You had such a difficult pregnancy and now difficult recovery and a new baby to look after - I really think your feelings are understandable and temporary. It's nothing to do with being a bad mum or not loving him in the same way - if needed, you would still jump in the fire for him. You are just exhausted. Hope you are feeling better today xx

Sorry if I'm forgetting anyone else... have been trying to catch up but my brain is full of holes these days... please keep sending me some dilating thoughts... and I'm sending you all some nipple healing vibes...

Racheld33 · 21/10/2013 14:48

flyer DS only fed 5-10 mins max from 0-12 months, only from one side per feed, and even if I woke him wouldn't feed off the over side. He had no problems at all. When I express I can get a massive amount in a short time, so I think my milk supply is very fast/efficient. He never had any problems being content/with weight (was 8-11 at birth so not small either) Halloween Smile

cazboldy · 21/10/2013 15:46

Lucinda also only feeds from one side per feed, and only feeds for 10 mins or so, if she falls asleep, and I don't think she has had enough I just change her to wake her up and offer her again.

Talking of germ ridden teens, I think my LO might be getting her first cold already Sad

Had a really unsettled night, when she has been very good, and she has sneezed loads today. Feel a bit worried about her Sad

BowlFullofJelly · 21/10/2013 15:55

Are you still breathing clapham, tut! Interesting about the night feeds. Emilia has slept through from 10 30pm to 6am twice since she arrived, and I'm a little concerned about how that may effect my supply. But because she has woken at 3 or 4am every other night, I don't want to set and alarm, empty my boobs and then she wakes for feeding. Any advice from seasoned bfers?

Readyasilleverbe · 21/10/2013 16:20

Clapham you're in danger of being issued with an ASBO with your incessant breathing back here.
For those of you sc and sfw ( and everyone else of course), I have just made these and they are amazing.
theenglishkitchen.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/cinnamon-roll-scones.html
Make the waiting so much more enjoyable!x