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Graduated Elderberries - Thread 8

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Cavort · 12/10/2013 20:39

The over 30's expecting/just given birth to their first little bundle of joy. Grin

Thread 8 already!!

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MotherOfCleo · 17/11/2013 12:27

Haven't had much sucess waking a sleeping baby to feed him when my boobs start hurting, so tried expressing this morning. Got 3oz fron the hurty swollen boob....not too shabby, nice to know I'm producing a fair amount too.

Cavort · 17/11/2013 14:53

Alex I had a show/lost mucous plug (is there a difference?) and it looked like someone had done a huge red and brown sneeze in my pants. My MW said a snot-like consistency is quite normal. Very glamorous Grin

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BelissimaLol · 17/11/2013 16:32

Merk does our friend have a new name with numbers at the end? GrinGrin
Alex my show only came when I was already dilated by 6cm but it was exactly as cav describes it. A big red snot Grin
I'm at home. Little lady asleep. Still clogged up but much better than before!

MotherOfCleo · 18/11/2013 00:29

Feeding my son is like feeding an octopus! He scratches me, slaps me, punches me, pulls the nipple shield off, puts the stolen nipple shield in his mouth then screams when no milk comes out, throws his head back throwing milk everywhere, pushes his head sideways...again milk everywhere. It is not exactly as I imagined it would be!!! ConfusedBiscuit
Have had people here a lot today so snuck off and expressed, seems to be going ok, have done 3 or 4 breastfeeds, 2 feeds with expressed milk and just done hopefully the last one of the evening with formula. At least he doesnt kick up a fuss where it comes from I supposeBlush

Oh and on a different topic, janey I got some over-the-scar granny pants today.....they are a revelation comfort wise. Shock God I sound old!!!! Blush

MotherOfCleo · 18/11/2013 00:29

ok not sure where the 'Biscuit' came from Confused

Cavort · 18/11/2013 01:09

Those feeding antics sound normal to me Mother. Oh we used to have such fun feeding and still do sometimes. Grin

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MotherOfCleo · 18/11/2013 04:55

Its knackering cav he gets himself in such a state. Shock

Alexandra6 · 18/11/2013 07:19

mother I've seen that happen with friends under their feeding bibs, all I could see was the baby thrashing around like a trapped animal under a sheet! If I'm totally honest it freaked me out when I saw that as I always imagined them quietly and nicely feeding, but like a lot of these things I guess it's good to know it happens to other people!

NHS say I'm due a week from today! And my dates say Thursday! Anyone got any ideas for snacks that you might fancy in labour? Have bought a pack of calipso juice.

janey1234 · 18/11/2013 07:45

Glad to see you're thinking about food Alex WinkWink xxx

janey1234 · 18/11/2013 08:03

Oh and mother it does get easier. Much easier.

Sometimes if Miles is in a mood, really excited or feeling nosey about what's around him he's still an octopus, so feeding him when out and about can be the hardest. But we have some truly lovely feeds now, and have done for some time (4 weeks onwards maybe?) when he calmly and happily feeds, stopping only occasionally to smile at me. Bit more like in the movies! Wink

HazleNutt · 18/11/2013 08:16

oooh so exciting alex!
I packed a whole bunch of snacks, fruit nad muesli bars and energy gels etc. Didn't want to see any of them. Had a lot of coconut water though.

In the past few days, Viki is just getting too curious and does not want to eat properly when we're in the living room. So I have to take him to a dark, quiet bedroom and then he's happy to feed, meaning he was actually hungry. Which, of course, can be somewhat of a problem if we're out and about. Hmm

Cavort · 18/11/2013 08:36

Distractions are also a problem here now, so I too take myself off to a quiet spot to feed, which keeps feeds down to 10 minutes rather than 30 minutes of pulling on and off to grin at me/watch TV/watch the dog/grin at DH.

Has anyone else tried to get baby back off to sleep when you think they've woken too early? For over a month now, Elodie generally wakes from a nap after 30-40 minutes and if I get her up she is still yawning, rubbing her eyes, etc. and clearly needs more sleep, so I find if I pounce on her as soon as she stirs from the nap and put the dummy in, stroke her nose, and do whatever it takes to stop her from fully waking up she will immediately settle back off for another 2-2.5 hours. By doing this her lunchtime nap is now 2.5-3 hours and I have a much happier baby for the rest of the afternoon. Her 9am nap is still 30-40 mins but she doesn't seem too tired after this one and she has a 20-30 min cat nap around 5pm to power her through until bedtime.

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HazleNutt · 18/11/2013 10:07

Yes I manage sometimes to get him back to sleep by bouncing the hammock, but this has to be the second Viki is stirring. If he gets his eyes open then that's it.

Quodlibet · 18/11/2013 11:11

Ooh exciting Alex, a snack list an approaching Due Date!
My NCT lady said yogurt is good. I'm thinking with crunchy muesli in. I honestly can't imagine not bring ravenous all the way through, dunno if snacks are going to cut it with me.

On the nipple shield subject, I am worried that my nipples are too small to use them Blush. I looked at some in Mothercare at the weekend and can't see how my nipples would get anywhere near the pointy end of the shield, they are much too small. Are they going to suddenly magically grow/stretch or am I a tiny nippled freak?

MotherOfCleo · 18/11/2013 11:30

Dont worry quod mine dont go near the end either, once he latches on he pulls them down their to fill the shield. Sounds painful but it isn't actually.

Oh yes yoghurty snacks sound good, maybe some yoghurt covered raisins too? Actually making myself hungry now. Wink

Cavort · 18/11/2013 12:02

Hazle I agree... eyes open = game over. We have to literally hover over her at the 30 minute mark and pounce the second she stirs. Of course this all goes to shit when we're out and about but we've got it down to a fine art for home naps now.

Quod I think you would only end up using shields as a last resort if baby won't latch any other way and even then it would probably only be a short-term solution so I wouldn't worry. And it's amazing how elongated a normally small nipple will get after a ravenous newborn has been on it. Nipple shield info. In fact I would urge any woman hoping to BF to have a nosey at the Kellymom site, especially Preparing to BF, Newborn BFing Basics and Common Newborn Concerns. I have found this site so helpful in knowing what is normal and adjusting my expectations accordingly as well as answering any BFing questions I have. I really wish I had read these before the birth and found myself struggling in the early days (which is completely normal).
I'm afraid I missed the Post Office on Saturday morning so I will try to get there this afternoon to post the TENS.

We have an overnight babysitter for the first time this Saturday Grin Grin Grin and I am really torn as to what to do. On one hand, the thought of going on a proper night out, drinking and dancing is appealing, but then so is the thought of going to bed sober at 9pm and sleeping uninterrupted for 12 hours although no doubt my boobs wouldn't allow this. Confused

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Cavort · 18/11/2013 12:07

Oh yes, and snacks. I had a bag full of dried fruit, cereal bars and bananas, which probably would have been great if I could of faced actually eating any of it. I knew I had to eat to keep my energy up but just couldn't face anything. My snacks kept DH going though and of course I ate loads once the epidural kicked in.

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HazleNutt · 18/11/2013 12:22

Oh dear, DH is seriously broody. Yesterday we had a discussion about that we don't want to leave too much of a gap between the second. This morning he looks at Viki and mentions that it would be so very cute to have two like this, double the cuteness, can you imagine? And when I went home for lunch, he actually suggested we start trying for the second Shock

I know we were always planning to have 2 and close together, but I am slightly hyperventilating now Grin

Cavort · 18/11/2013 12:33

I love your DH's enthusiasm Hazle and it's sweet that he's clearly loving being a Dad, but I would feel the same as you! As it's you who has to be pg again I think it should be you who gets the deciding vote on when to TTC. What kind of age gap would be your preference? And has your AF returned, which might give you a good excuse to decline TTC for a while longer. Smile

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HazleNutt · 18/11/2013 12:48

Ideally I would like the gap to be as short as possible, so they would have more common interests and also that we could be done with diapers and breastfeeding sooner - not potty-train one and then start again. I am not looking forward to being pregnant again though..
Then agian, if we want a secing, we have to do it at some point and I'm not getting any younger.

I'm on mini-pill, so no AF. So I might consider coming off the pill and just seeing what happens, as breastfeeding should be quite good contraceptive anyway.

Alexandra6 · 18/11/2013 14:22

I think there are pros and cons of a bigger and smaller gap. Not sure how long we'll leave it and I guess me thinking about it is running before I walk! When I was worried about infertility, I swore I would never use birth control again Shock but I might take a bit of that approach and just see what happens. I know I might be super fertile after the first though. Anyway one baby at a time Grin I honestly would be happy if we can only have one so at least if all goes well I won't be in that horrible infertility zone ever again phew!

HazleNutt · 18/11/2013 14:36

I'm sure it also really depends on the first baby - my parents have always said that if my sister was the first, she would have been an only child.

Cavort · 18/11/2013 15:00

Ha, I think that's probably true Hazle. My friend has two girls 18 months apart and she openly admits that her DD1 was such an easy baby that she couldn't see why anyone wouldn't have a whole football team... until her DD2 arrived who is the very epitome of a non-sleeping, colicky baby from hell. Needless to say she is stopping at two. Grin

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Alexandra6 · 18/11/2013 15:12

Ooh it's like a lucky dip, hope I get an easy one! Grin

HazleNutt · 18/11/2013 15:17

We're planning to stop at 2 anyway, so even if number 2 is a total horror, at least would know that that's it and we're done.
The women from our pre-natal class who had the difficult ones are indeed planning to stop at 1..

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