December 2013 - steaming towards 3/4 cooked

[LadyMedea]

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Thanks stom and Mildred. Well the thing is the operation would be just to take a bit of his gut and look at it but they may just confirm its bowel disease and the only treatment is more steroids (of which the current ones aren't Doug anything) special cat food for the rest of his life which is bloody expensive and more explosive runny poos....or it could be something worse meaning more treatment etc.

He managed to shit in a coffee machine we were going to sell on eBay- it's so disgusting!! I just wish DH could be more sensitive- he's not great about stuff like this and I'm an emotional wreck so we can't seem to talk rationally about it...

Thanks for the support. I might look into the cats protection league or RSPCA and see if there's any chance they'd take a sick cat?....

'Doing' bloody predictive text too!..

I'd give them a call and see what they say.
Also you don't want the baby getting near the poos especially when he/she starts crawling about.

But yeh defo look into seeing if a charity will take him. I think that will be better for you in the long run.
You don't need the worry or payin the vet bills and making sure he gets the right food and looking after a baby aswell... It would be different if your cat was healthy..

I hope I'm not sounding callous...

But I think if it was me I'd be putting baby first
And the money situation x

Hesto

I work in aviation - you can't travel with two infants because they have to go on your knee and be secured - you cAn only safely secure one infant on your knee. The airline I work for will let you put a second infant in a car seat (forward facing, 5 pt harness) secured to the aircraft. I don't work for BA but suspect they will have a similar policy. Have a look at that as an option.

5ammy

DH has called and texted and apologised for being insensitive...now we need to make a decision :-( ...I just feel like because the cat isn't terminally ill or In pain that its our responsibility to look after him and we would be callous if we put him down...but we can't go on cleaning up that shit every day- especially like you say stom with a baby crawling around...

mum completely understand your dilema, we had to put down my family cat of 15 years last weekend after he had a stroke, the vet said we could send him off for 2 weeks to an intensive care vets where they could syringe feed him and see if they could get any improvement out of him but they said the chances were slim that he'd recover and it would be very very expensive (after paying out a few hundred in bills for steroids and antivirals when they first thought it could be a severe inner ear infection) we could tell he was in a lot of distress, his weight had plummeted in 2 days, he wasn't really able to walk and it was just kinder in the end to let him go. We've all been so upset but I know it was what was best for him. Animals do become part of your family and it is so hard to think about putting them down when you don't want to let them go or for feeling guilty that you haven't done enough. I'd seek the best impartial advice from your vet on what his chances are. You're right you shouldn't be going anywhere near cat poo as it can be harmful to baby, I can understand your other half getting frustrated cleaning it all up - mine complains about changing the litter tray at the moment even though its only used at night time as our cats out in the day, so to be cleaning up a messy mess must be horrible. Sounds mean but can you contain your cat over night in the large cages you can have with a litter tray to try and keep it a bit more contained?

At least DH had apologised... Now have a cuppa & sit down & forget about it for a while.

I think a charity is a good option x

Mum if the operation is just to confirm a prognosis and course of treatment that you cannot afford and will also have a significant effect on his quality of life I would seriously consider pts.

I know it's difficult when it is a much loved pet but sometimes you have to consider the long term with them. I have ponies and a dog and have always said that if they get an illness or a disease that impacts on their quality of life then I would pts before they suffered.
If he has constant explosive poo and suspected bowel disease he probably isn't comfortable much of the time.An opoperation causes more pain and distress and it doesn't sound as though it will cure anything.

A charity is unlikely to take a sick animal. Too many healthy ones needing rehousing.

I know it's not what you want to hear but totally leaving the issue of poo and cost out of it plus the new baby coming I would have a consultation with your vet and ask them for a frank discussion about his future. Lots of small animal vets will now do a lot more investigations just because a lot of people have insurance. And my personal thoughts are that not all are necessary.

Maybe start the course of treatment the vet would prescribe if the op confirms what they suspect and see how he goes on. If his quality of life is improved then make a decision on whether you can afford the treatment long term.

Was just trying to think of vet charities but PDSA and Bluecross only help I think if you're on some sort of benefit, although they may be able to point you in the right direction of someone who could help?

Welcome Zoogeek! Surely this is far from ruining Christmas ? it?ll make it even better!

Thank you Nom and 5ammy, I think a flight nanny is probably the way we?ll have to go?

Ach, that sounds really tough MsCatShoes, I think you should definitely try to shift your day around or change rooms etc ? they ought to be understanding and you have to put your health first ultimately. Perhaps you could get one of the kids to carry your stuff around for you?! Good luck!

mumoftwoboysS, sorry to hear about your cat ? totally understandable that you?re upset and don?t want to just put him/her down! Our cat was ill a while back and kept being sick everywhere, it was a total pain to be honest but I wouldn?t dream of having him put down unless he was in so much pain that it had to be done or we really couldn?t afford to care for him properly. If that is the case, I?d recommend talking to the RSPCA as that?s exactly what they?re there for and they have lots of time for responsible pet-owners. They even have some schemes to help people afford vetinary care I think and if not can probably talk through some other options with you.

Whilst we?re on gross bodily functions ? I?m still vomiting like a trooper at the moment; beginning to think it could be some sort of flu or stomach bug as it just isn?t clearing up and I?m starting to worry about keeping enough food down to grow these babies. The anti-sickness pills I was given on Wednesday haven?t make much difference yet but I?m not sure if I?m keeping them down. I?ve been sick twice so far today already, yuck!

Hetsto you poor thing. Can't imagine vomiting at this stage.. I'm sure I'm stating the obvious but if you're not keeping much down, esp fluids you may need to go to hosp..

Day off today- thank god I booked it as annual leave for a long weekend as the ward has been mental this week and had every last bit of my energy.. Had planned a swim then a wander round the shops/ nice sit down in Starbucks but really struggling to motivate myself for the swim although I suspect I'd feel quite nice & relaxed afterward..

28 weeks tomo- time seems to be flying past at the moment!

hetsto this might sound really bizzare and it's obviously if you have the time to then retrieve it, but dampen a flannel and pop it in your freezer when you feel like you need to be sick take it out and put it on the back of your neck, the shock of the cold eases the need to be sick - one of the tricks I learnt while still throwing up until week 18! Doesn't work every single time, and sometimes you just won't have time to grab it but it does help!

frouby he has been on the treatment for suspected bowel disease for months now- strong steroids, and they haven't helped at all. You're Right I should have a discussion with the vet- these days like you say they always assume you're going to keep paying for everything but I get anxious every time he suggests a new treatment or op. a while back he skewered himself on a fence, punctured a lung etc and that op and treatment was expensive so this just adds to it. I would hate to put him down (feel like he trusts us and I'd be betraying him somehow) but its putting stress on family life... Not sure about a cage shrubs as would still have to clean up the mess. Could leave him out all the time so he goes outside to poo but that would just be ignoring his illness really., thanks so much for all your support/replies. Will book an apt with the vet- it's going to be very emotional...

hetsto enough about my problems- sorry to hear you're being sick how horrid for you. Hope it eases soon.

mum so sorry to hear about your situation, I've always had pets and only had to have my dog put down but he was very old and ill and having fits, he was like my baby and I grieved a lot afterwards.
I couldn't put my pet down unless he was in constant pain with no quality of life so I would probably try a charity or such. It must be a very hard decision for you and I feel for you greatly....huge hugs from me Hun.

hesto go to hospital or your midwife Hun, with ds1 I was sick all through pregnancy and when I went to hospital I had ketones in my blood which means I had to be admitted onto a drip to rehydrate me and I was starving as nothing was staying down, I had that morning sickness thing hyper something or other, sorry cant remember the name kate Middleton was admitted with it hope you feeling better soon.

zoogeek ds1 was born November 30th due December 19th and it made Xmas so much better and I dressed him in a my little pudding outfit it as a tiny baby one as he was 5llb 6oz born and he looked oh so cute with his Xmas pudding hat on lol.

Ds3 is due December 2nd and I can't wait for another Xmas baby

Thanks alyssa he probably is in pain (I have had IBS and know the pain of stomach cramps well) but I don't know if its reason enough to have him put down... I'm not sure a charity would take a sick cat either...

I had a Santa outfit someone gave me (a hand me down)I think it was 6-12 months and have photos of both my boys in it- so cute! Good idea actually- I haven't bought anything for baby yet but might by a cute warm furry reindeer one or something!

Hello everyone, I have just woken up after falling asleep at 8pm last night. I think I needed the rest!

mum sorry to hear about your cat. We have always had dogs and I couldn't imagine having to make the decision you're faced with. Animals are such a big part of the family it would break my heart.

Welsome zoogeek

Sorry you're still being sick hetsto a few weeks ago I had to be put on a drip because I couldn't keep anything down. It was horrible but thankfully it's passed now.

My bump is really sore today and I still feel down in the dumps about the way I look. It's freezing cold and rainy here today so I think I might have a day in my pyjamas watching films.

Welcome, zoogeek! Don't forget to add yourself to our stats thread as well

mum that sounds awful, sending you lots of big hugs! As an animal lover I'd be inclined to say do whatever you can to keep the cat and look after it as best you can, but then given the circumstances you really ought to do what's best for you and baby at the moment. Either way, it sounds like you need to sit down talk it all through with DH as it can't be good for baby if one or both of you are upset!
Also, regardless of what happens, I've been told that cat poo can be toxic to pregnant women so please please make sure your DH knows that and cleans it up, no matter how yucky it is!

All this talk of cute outfits is getting me so excited for December! Little bean will have just missed out on Christmas (which is a shame since I'm loving the sound of the pudding outfit!) but I did manage to get him the cutest Baby Gap beige fluffy bear pram suit for about £6 on eBay a little while ago! Soooo cute

Oh and I've finally got round to posting a bump pic on my profile, if anyone fancies having a good laugh at the state of my face and my new way too fluffy, way too short haircut...!

mum I somewhat can relate to your situation as quite many years ago we had a cat that developed explosive runny poos, while later cat started to be in pain ( she shied away from being touched ) so we went along with tests and it turned out to be a bowel cancer. There was no way we could watch the cat suffer so she had to be put down...Seemed more human that way. But my decision was from knowing that I couldn't live a day knowing that my pet suffers. Other people would find it harder to cope with an idea that they put an end to their pets life. So go with how it feels right for you.

And what a nonsense about ruining Christmas for our December babies - I am December baby myself and am telling you, there was no other season I anticipated most than winter ( like, who would do that?!) as I had my birthday, my twins birthday and Christmas to look forward to! I LOVED it! :)
And grown-ups were nice enough to give me separate presents for Dec 16th and Dec 24th. And 6 year olds don't know about "expensive"

I just devoured a whole tube of pringles without batting an eyelid.... I don't even like pringles that much... :S
Haha...

Hope you are feeling better hetso .. Like the others said.. I'd get it checked...
Feeling really down in the dumps today... I actually was sleep last night til dp woke me up Moanin I was takin all the bed... I actually wasn't he just likes to sleep on the edge so he thinks he has no room...

Still feeling guilty about being off.. I just don't know what to do anymore.. So fed up.. And woke up with headache.. Was my own fault... I can't have anythinf with orange as it sets off a migraine... But I was craving a terry's chocolate orange.. So had some... But they have recently put real orange oil in and not artifical which I didn't realise.. Oops..
I'm boring you now haha..
Hope you are all well x

awh storm I hope you feel better soon. Which flavour pringles were they? The sour cream and onion or texas bbq are the best I feel crap today too. My legs feel like they're made of lead and I feel just a bit off. I can't pinpoint what is making me feel ill so I don't know how to make it better

Texas bbq... I actually don't really like them.. Haha pregnancy! Due feel really sick now though :(
Yeah i managed the house work today so now say watching tv...
Just feel so guilty for bing off sick and money etc but I juat duno what to do... I tried to talk to dp about it and about him sorting out his paternity leave... All i get is I've been at work all day I don't wana talk about it so I wait til the weekend and I get its the weekend I don't want a talk about it...
So i thought bugger him of he don't wana sort it out and have a couple weeks with me a dd that his own fault...
I'm fed up with doing everything for our baby.. I've had to sort out buy clothes and pram bed etc.. Hes not bothered.. I asked him to finish reading his baby book
And he says no.. But I won't him to to be abit prepared for labour and stuff as he thinks he's knows but in reality he actually hasn't got a clue. And that scares me..
Sorry for the moan again lol

Hey Stom, sorry you're feeling glum, great that you did some housework!

I am feeling so blue today, had a little crying spell, have done nothing all day except tidy the kitchen and eat and nap on the sofa. This cold has done my head in and I'm really hoping it's on its way out.

Bleurgh, can't wait for today to just be over so I can go back to bed and forget about it all. Hope others are feeling a bit better!