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Due August 2013 - Part 5 - The Final Stretch - We're nearly there duebies!!

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FoofFighter · 21/05/2013 19:33

Welcome to the thread in which we will meet our babies - woooooooooop!!

Previous thread - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1709005-August-2013-Part-4-Half-way-there-already?msgid=39205443

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
RuckAndRoll · 12/06/2013 10:34

oh and just a reminder ladies Pelvic floor exercises

hoping it's not just me starting to realise their importance

FoofFighter · 12/06/2013 11:09

Trixie, I had a Cam when I was a childminder and I used it for little ones and bigger ones upto what 2.5 I suppose? and it was still a dream to push, easy to use as ever. Not everyone gives up the "big" pram at 6mo :)

I've bought new but it was "only" £250.

Ruck, can say I never did any PFE with any of mine and cba to start now, am old and saggy anyway haha

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babyhmummy01 · 12/06/2013 11:13

Trixie had I had the money I would have bought brand new but as baby was a complete surprise we hadn't planned for anything financially and I just simply couldn't afford it.

Ruck PFE are part of the SPD/PGP exercises from my physio so been doing them on and off for about 6 weeks now, not sure if having any effect but can still cough and sneeze without incident lol

Gingerbreadpixie · 12/06/2013 12:26

Hi, all :) Thanks for the welcome.

Can I please check with you ladies who has had the whooping cough vaccine recently? Did anyone decline to have it? I really need to decide soon as I'm 29 weeks and while I obviously do not want my bub to get whooping cough I also feel v nervous about this vaccination that before last october was previously not recommended in pregnancy and which hasn't been proven to provide immunity to the baby.

A bit of background info on myself too (to perhaps explain why I'm generally anxious in this pg and anxious about the vaccination) - I'm a T1 diabetic, have an under active thyroid, have had a previous cervical cone biopsy which has meant my cervix has been monitored for incompetence, and i had a massive bleed at 12 weeks (went off in an ambulance being told I was having a mc but thankfully wasn't). So my nerves have been in shreds most of the way through. My 3rd trimester fear is mostly of having the vaccination. Possibly completely irrationally. If anyone could share their opinions/experiences I'd be very grateful. x

GaryBuseysTeeth · 12/06/2013 15:54

I gave birth to DS in Dec 2011, everyone I know who gave birth around the same time, & who bought a bugaboo/one of them la-di-dah posh buggies, is using a Maclaren-eqsue stroller...so will be interesting to see what happens here.
Great that they hold their value so well!

Ruck, it's all about the exercises.
I do them in every ad break when we're watching tv, I let DH know sometimes & he looks at me like Hmm

waves, I don't think anyone here will begrudge you when you swan in saying 'oh, he's slept through from day one & never had colic/crying fits'. You're certainly due it!
I didn't babywear with DS much, so will be interesting to see how much easier/how different it will be wearing this one around the house most of the time.

Gingerbread, I had the WC vaccine. It did feel strange to know it was 'needed' when last time I was pg it wasn't, but I didn't think it worth the risk to not have it.
I had it Friday before last, bruising/itching has only just started fade.
Sounds like you've had a real tough time of it so far, hope it means you're in for an easy third trimester.
How much does being a diabetic & thyroid problem affect how/when you're giving birth?

MrsPennyapple · 12/06/2013 16:07

Hello newbies, and welcome!

Gingerbread I've had the vaccine, had it at about 28+3. The nurse pointed out that it was previously not recommended for pregnant women but said medical opinion has changed, plus it's only a very small dose, the same as an infant dose. It's also a combined vaccine, so it covers you for tetanus and some other stuff too. (I never have up to date tetanus shots, so it's probably a good thing to have from that point of view.) Sorry you've had a tough time with your pregnancy so far, fingers crossed it's plain sailing for you from here.

Ruck thanks for the reminder, I'm bad for forgetting to do them! No accidents so far, but I'd like to keep it that way!

I've been to see the mw today, and she says baby has turned and is no longer breech - HURRAY! I was really stressing about that, I'm so relieved!

MrsPennyapple · 12/06/2013 16:08

Oops, meant to add, 32+2 expecting DC2.

Gingerbreadpixie · 12/06/2013 16:33

Hi GaryBuseysTeeth - thanks for tne info. Were your baby's movements any different following the jab. Yes p First and second trimesters were spent in fear mostly and now I'm being treated for anxiety. I've definitely started relaxing more now, especially as I went on mat leave early, at 28 weeks. But the thought of vaccine during pg brings up the anxiety still.

The thyroid is pretty well controlled with meds and I think has most impact on the first trimester. With T1 diabetes it means I have to have a consultant-led hospital birth and am much more likely to need a c section. If I dont keep my blood sugars within strict levels, the baby is likely to grow bigger than normal. At birth, as I understand it. I will have insulin and glucose going in on a drip and the doctors will do the balancing act of administering the two trying to keep my sugars within normal range. If my sugars go too high during birth the baby's little pancreas could be pumping out lots of extra insulin to compensate which could mean he goes hypoglycaemic once he's detached from me. So he may need to be monitored in baby unit after. The pressure of birth could also affect my eyes and cause damage to the retinas, another diabetic complication.

I really am determined to enjoy the last trimester though, despite all i e eritten above! I love feeling him move and can't wait to meet him. I even like my pregnant shape and am embracing the new curves.

Gingerbreadpixie · 12/06/2013 16:38

Thanks MrsPennyapple. Thanks for the info on your vaccine experience. Did you have any side effects? I'm seeing my GP next week, who is also pregnant, so I'm going in to have a good chat with her about it all.

Gingerbreadpixie · 12/06/2013 16:41

Oh and I'll be induced between weeks 38-39 too btw. Unless he has other ideas and turns up earlier! (My mum only carried to 36 weeks with myself and both siblings!)

MrsPennyapple · 12/06/2013 17:04

No side effects for me, but definitely felt like I'd had a hefty punch on the arm, so if you do have it, try to have it on the side you don't sleep on!

One of the ladies at mums & tots group did have a reaction to the vaccine, not sure what her symptoms were, nothing alarming I don't think, but it's worth knowing that it is possible. She did also have a cough at the same time, so maybe her immune system was not at it's peak anyway?

I guess there is no way to know who will have a reaction and who won't. If your doctor and midwife are normally helpful and give good advice in your experience, I'd trust them, although I do understand why you're worried.

wavesandsmiles · 12/06/2013 20:28

Sounds like you are being well taken care of and monitored gingerbread. I've had the WC vaccine too, just last Friday. No side effects other than feeling also like I've been punched in the arm. My baby is measuring v small as I've been poorly throughout with Hyperemesis so anything i am able to do in terms of resistance to infection for him, I will.

I'm ready to cry after another really bad day which I have largely spent in bed. DD even did the washing up after tea for me. Due up at hospital Friday first thing so hopefully will hold out til then. Just wish time didn't seem to have completely slowed down. I need a fast forward to the end of July!

Mrsd77 · 12/06/2013 21:28

Welcome gingerbread. I had the vaccine too and experienced no side effects other than a sore arm. It was quite sore initially! I had read too about the potential for reduced movements etc but all was as normal.

Am 33 weeks tomorrow and thinking of finishing work a week early which will make my last day next Friday. I'm done in! Growth scan next week too and hoping for a final decision re section and maybe a date?! Do you know how early they set dates for elcs?

32+6

Briarrosy · 12/06/2013 21:49

Trixie, my sister bought a new Chameleon and has loved it and used it every day for her first son and now her new wee one is in it. She does however live in a house and never uses the bus, so the pram being a bit bulky doesn't really affect her. My friends in Edinburgh all tend to be in flats and use buses and the bugaboo isn't the best for those (mind, not many of the travel systems are). Also don't feel too bad as Gumtree in Edinburgh is amazing, wheras my sister lives in Leeds and gumtree doesn't have anywhere near the same choice there.

chocolatesolveseverything · 12/06/2013 22:01

Evening all, wow it's been ages since I posted here. Sorry for disappearing!

I went to have my WC vaccine today. Was a bit nervous about the painful arm bit as I had a bad night's sleep last night anyway due to a slightly upset stomach, but as soon as I told the nurse I wasn't feeling 100% she refused to give it to me. Says to ring the surgery back another day when I've fully recovered. That will probably mean that I have it at 34 weeks. Not ideal, but should still do some good I hope.

Briarosy, are you an Edinburgher too?

LilPeasMama · 12/06/2013 23:41

Hi everyone!
Thanks for the welcome Grin
I have a graph too in my notes, had my first measure at 28 wks and midwife said I was measuring perfectly inbetween the lines...whatever that means!

Briarrosy
I haven't had a phone call from the midwife so I guess no news is good news on the antibodies front.
The bugaboo is definitely the buggy i want, it's just some second hand ones are just as expensive as a brand new one! Shock
Also the ones I have looked at come with a used car seat.....which worries me, but dont want the hassle of buying separately, then I just go back to thinking should I just buy new? Confused
If I bought second hand the saving could go on clothes for when the baby is here.....so far the wardrobe consists of vests, sleep suits and 1 coming home outfit!

gingerbread
I had my WC jab at 28wks, took a week for swelling and bruising to go down and even now still have a small lump under the skin...glad it's been done though.

I'm really feeling lots of movement now under the skin, the baby goes mad yet as soon as I lift my top to look it stops! Hmm

Today it's been really humid, I actually felt really heavy and out of breath....I thought I could carry on till the end....thank god for annual leave, I'm really looking forward to finishing now Smile
4wks to go......

Gingerbreadpixie · 12/06/2013 23:49

Thank you for all shared experiences of WC jabs. It helps :)

LouiseD29 · 13/06/2013 00:26

Hi Gingerbread, I can add, having done some work with the Department of Health last year that I understand the reason they changed the recommendation was because of a fairly sharp and sudden increase in whooping cough diagnoses and deaths. I'm no expert, but previously the rates were very low and steady. I'm having the vaccine next week.

FoofFighter · 13/06/2013 08:33

Gingerbread, the preggies in the US have been having this jab for years if that's any reassurance?

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Twocatsandcounting · 13/06/2013 09:17

Hi there. Have been reading but not posting til now. Am 31 + 6. Just wanted to reply to gingerbread about WC vaccine.
My understanding is the reason it has only just been introduced is because there is a relative epidemic at the moment and sadly a number of under 3 month olds have died already in the last yr. this is because babies cannot be vaccinated until after 3 months. So the vac programme is an emergency measure. The reason they recommend it in the 28 to 36 ( or whatever it is) period is because the medics reckon that's when the immunity the vac gives mum is most likely to pass thru the placenta to the baby. Vaccines are never routinely tested on pregnant women as the risks are too high when something is just under development compared to testing on other people. that is why the pharmaceutical companies always carry a warning saying the vac isn't suitable for preg women. but as someone has said, the vac they use has previously been used in the US with no problems and anyway, they only give u the dose intended for 3 month old babies, so it's very mild. The uk dept of health also carried out its own thorough review of the evidence thru one of its advisory committees (comprised of medics).
I had it about 3 weeks ago. No side effects other than the usual sore arm, which is just normal when u have a needle stuck in the muscle (but def good idea to get it in the side u don't sleep on!). If I were u, I'd trust what the GP advises you on this and eer towards having it unless the GP thinks your other conditions make u more prone to the side effects.

Gingerbreadpixie · 13/06/2013 10:32

Thank you all for the replies and help with reassurance. I really appreciate it. I'm writing some questions for my GP and I guess now my main concern is that if I do have a reaction (which i understand is rare) will it affect my blood sugar control (it doesn't take much to upset the T1 diabetic system!) and see what she thinks.

I wish you could just have the single WC part if the jab and not the other parts (diphtheria, polio, tetanus). Might feel a but gentler then. I think it's the tetanus part that aches the arm. In the US the vaccine is similar to the one we have but without the polio component.

cakebaby · 13/06/2013 11:04

Hi everyone and welcome to all august newbies!
GBP I was concerned about the WC vaccine being a further 4 in one assault on my immune system, particularly as I had the anti D last week too. However I had WC when I was 3 and still recall it, my parents were beside themselves and I was very unwell for months. End result, I had the jab as it's the only thing I can do to protect baby cake from it until he's a few months old. I hope your GP is helpful and supportive.

Still not bought monitor, car seat, pushchair, bed, bedding..... at this rate baby cake will be strapped to a skateboard and pulled along with a bit of string Blush

Can't decide on a pushchair/travel system, far too many to choose from.

Hope you're all doing OK ladies, not long before the ML starts and nesting/the fear begins!

Gingerbreadpixie · 13/06/2013 13:00

Thanks cakebaby x (lol at skateboard on a string!)

We haven't bought anything apart from clothing basics and a few toys. Got to get pram/travel system and crib sorted when DH is off work next week.

I like the look of the petite star pram range I've seen in mothercare which seem to get good reviews for their price range. But we're off to Kiddicare and John Lewis next week to "test drive" a few brands. This is my first pg so no experience whatsoever! I'm also thinking of a bedside crib/cot where you can either have the side up as a standalone crib or drop one side down and adjust the height to be an extension of your own bed. Like co sleeping but safer.

FoofFighter · 13/06/2013 16:38

We've got the Mothercare Xpedior but I really wish I hadn't now as one of the other mums here has bought a Hamilton Turnberry that looks just like a Bugaboo Cam for the bargainous price of £120 all in :o it looks fab.
Not that there;s anything wrong with our pram, just, I have pram envy now, I was one of the legendary Mumsnet "pramhuns" a while ago you see ;)

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RuckAndRoll · 13/06/2013 17:05

What sort of thing are you looking for gingerbread? The reviews board on here is quite good. Or the pushchairs bit of chat (or just ask Foof!)