Due in dec 2012 - things that go BUMP in the night!

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New thread here ladies!

Michelle try emailing the nappy lady, she's really helpful and can tailor advice to your lifestyle i.e. Tumble dryer or not, etc.. We've been looking at little lambs and bumgenius nappies - one of the nct class brought some in last week and i was really impressed!

spotty I saw them in Mamas and Papas yesterday! I want one! But had just purchased a gorgeous overpriced cardi from there so felt I had been extravagant enough!

I've sobbed today, took an hour to calm down. Bloody XH doing things to spite me that have a negative impact on the dcs. I won't go into it here as sure I've bored you lot enough with my whinges. But I think hormones has more than a small part to play in it as usually i would just get angry whereas I am still really upset and wish I didn't have to put up with his rubbish for the next 12 years!

Stacey, ex-BIL has 15 years and counting, want me to add yours to the list of people requiring castration by rusty garden implement?

Cookies if you buy it online it doesn't count as spending money

I've finally hoovered and dusted. Still lots of mess though, it really stresses me out! DP does help out with making a mess but it's ha;f heartedly or things just hidden in a cupboard rather than put away grrrrr

Oh pidj what a very kind offer, I feel I shall have to graciously accept! Lol

Feeling a bit better now as this time there is no negative impact and he's wasted a lot of money on solicitors for no reason! DH has put me straight lol as well as calling him an unhappy cunt

Stacey and anyone else flying - you can take an empty bottle (any size) through security, as long as there is no liquid inside it it isn't a problem. So if you have a bottle at home and want to take it with you feel free. What I tend to do (depending on airport and what restaurants they have there) is go somewhere like a Pret, buy a sandwich and ask really nicely if they could re-fill my bottle there - restaurants usually have tap water available for their staff and I don't mind tap water at all.

Otherwise the cheapest water at airports is usually the 500 or 750ml "one water" which is often sold at the World Duty Free shopping bit - it raises money for a water charity in Africa I think... but compared to WHsmith and places it (at least used to be when I flew a bit more regularly) is a good deal cheaper.

HTH :)

Oh as a side note - I only flew often (once or twice a month) because it was the first year DP and I were together (I lived in London and he lived in Nuremberg- since he is German) now we both live in Germany. :o
But it really bugged me paying so much for a bottle of water! I often travelled in the early morning so a good coffee and a big bottle of water were very good at making me feel a bit more awake :)

First day of annual leave today as a process of 'tailing off' towards mat leave (7 weeks to go) and it was completely shit. Some pretty serious and stressful family stuff emerged on the weekend and I've not managed to help one bit despite a lot of time, effort and heartache. Then a visit to my consultant, after which I now feel more confused than ever about birthing options. Then off to get pertussis jab from the GP, who whinged at me because I'd been booked in to see him instead of the nurse ('my time is too valuable to do this!' - his actual words - what a cock). Then trawling round the supermarket, where I started crying because of a really sad podcast I was listening to. Now I'm at home, finishing off a delicious soup I made for a friend who recently had her baby, though I can't go and see her anyway due to aforementioned family stress, so not sure why I'm bothering with it still.

Anyway. A crap, crap, ridiculously shit day. And that's my day off! Luckily I get to go to work tomorrow.

At least I have my lovely husband coming some at some stage to look after me...

Sorry your x is being an idiot Stacey and in a few months

I need matchsticks for my eyes. Builders going soon then I can un-duct tape the bedroom door and have a nana nap.

Had good chat with one of my range of 'doulas' around me (my best lady) and getting birth plan clear in head (with plan b and c!), main thing is water for me (though know it may not happen and would happily have an epidural if nec!) And I want to be active as poss. Feels like a plan for the log flume so far!

Ooohh sorry mamapo, what a silly gp too, maybe thimbleful of now? Xx

Oh mamapo I can't believe your GP said that! Anything you're particularly confused about with regard to birth plans?

Yes, ridiculous GP. I just stared him down and said 'You need to take it up with your staff.'

Spotty, I'm just struggling a bit with evidence. There's so little out there, and I am very evidence-minded, and due to the dearth of good evidence have been talking to friends and gathering anecdata (which doesn't sit well with me to begin with). I asked him about birthing pools and the Epino after being interested in both, and he was blunt about the Epino having no evidence as to safety, and mentioned concerns about pools being ineffective in reducing tearing and may increase risk of infection. I just felt as though my plans were shrinking, which is a bit of an overstated response. I think I'll email him to ask for references, as I may still opt to have some time in the pool if not the birth itself (if there is evidence of analgesia and reduced labour time). And then my next thing will be to stop thinking about birth plans (about which I have been tremendously relaxed) and start thinking about finding out more about parenting, settling etc.

Bah. In some ways I think it wouldn't have mattered what the doctor had said, I was in a bad mental state and so anything might have been upsetting.

I just ate a whole bag of Jelly Belly beans to make myself feel better (and now feel a bit sick).

Gosh, I can't help you with your questions but if you post in Childbirth I think you would get lots of information to enable you to make an informed decision.

Mamapo, I like evidence but I also am learning (though have evidence too) that the more you feel in control of choices the better, though as you maybe like evidence to feel in control ... - he sounds a bit sniffy and like he just enjoys popping peoples bubbles.

Anecdata but woman I sat next to and never spoken to at yoga last night (but bumps get attention) volunteered entire giving birth experience (bumps trigger that) and said the pool made a huge difference to her labour pain. Would this also help with tearing, simply being more 'relaxed'? plus two other pool fans said same today.

Mws are really pushing pools, why would they if not that great? (sorry if there's something else I've missed about your circumstances)

Can't believe your doctor said that, Mamapo - what a knob! Hope the family stuff gets sorted soon.

Did a bit of shopping after my meeting this evening as was beside Brent Cross. Got new maternity PJs for me from Mothercare - ones with long sleeves :) Also couldn't resist picking up some baby stuff - have any of you heard of "bundlers" - my friend recommended them to me. They're basically like little long night dresses with elasticated bottoms, so their wee feet are covered but then you can just pull them up for middle of the night nappy changes, without bothering with poppers. They can be worn by boys or girls. I got one in John Lewis and a two pack in Mothercare:

www.johnlewis.com/230591844/Product.aspx

I also got these which I know are ridiculously unnecessary & impractical BUT I couldn't resist them

www.mothercare.com/Mothercare-Unisex-Reindeer-Baggies/LW2652,default,pd.html?cm_sp=ProductFeatures--Category%2520landing--Mothercare%2520Unisex%2520Reindeer%2520Baggies

mamapo what an awful doctor you appear to have, can you complain to the practice manager about him saying that to you just so they're aware they've got a complete arsehole on their staff list?
DP has been off work today and got into a super cleaning mode, I've been in bed feeling awful and am dreading going downstairs. All I've heard for the last 2 hours is singing, banging and rustling.
Need to get up and claim the tv for bake off, I think he thinks he's watching the football, but since its his fault we still have no Internet for catch up I think I'm in the right here.

Sorry for those of you who've had a difficult day.

I am utterly exhausted- work from 8-2 then met up with my mum and only just got home. She did buy me a cosy dressing gown for in hospital which was nice of her.

We had antenatal class yesterday and on top of the usual instilling fear in us they did say they fully recommend having a babymoon when out of hospital and not seeing anyone for a few days while we get to know the baby. I've also put a blanket ban on anyone staying with us overnight for the first couple of months. Basically MIL is the only one who would invite herself rather than waiting to see how we're doing and if we can manage people coming to stay so i've put my foot down and said no-one is staying as i can't deal with her telling me what i'm doing wrong and complaining that the baby crying kept her awake.

Clarella, I don't think my consultant is sniffy - I think he's doing his job, which is to keep on top of the literature (and contribute to it), then use it to guide his practice. I'd hate to be thought of as sniffy when I used evidence to make decisions. And of course MWs may be pro-birthing pools, but that doesn't mean they know about the overall risks and benefits of their use (because the research is lacking, not because they're ignorant or anything) and it does mean they rely on anecdata as much as anyone (although with a larger sample size).
Interestingly, he said that his hospital have had to shrink the number of pools on offer as there wasn't a lot of take-up from parents.

Basically, what we need is MORE SCIENCE! :)

Thank god for GBBO tonight. My husband has been reading about the science of baking (why yes we are nerds) and keeps interjecting with comments about the chemistry of eggs when we watch it.

Sorry Mamapo my sleep deprived brain thought it was the gp saying about pools, if consultant is of the opinion then fair enough! God I really am.struggling!

Most people I meet who aren't keen on pools worry about the poo in the pool.

As in, I can see how infection can.be a risk potential risk. I'm not sure if id prefer to be on land when final push happens, just for a bit of stability and less slippy and a pile of pillows or bed to grip onto.....

Oh, no worries - I would have definitely been more likely to dismiss the message if it had been my irritable GP who spoke up. As it was, he said 'So, you're pregnant, are you?' while he sat in front of my notes stating 'LMP March 2012; EDD Dec 2012' and with me plus bump filling up the room. Knob.

Hello all!

It's been a very long time since I've been on here due to wedding and house move. 2 big ticks, now just need to have a baby!

8 weeks to go and I feel just as unprepared as ever.

I hope you're all doing well and are in good health. I'll post properly once our broadband is in (seriously, BT have been rubbish) and try to catch up on what you've been up to then. I think I must've missed a thread or two...

Yay congratulations MRSfluff

Congratulations Mrsfluff!

Weejo did you hear that if you don't have a John Lewis nearby and you do have a waitrose they'll deliver to the waitrose. Which I thought was a very clever idea - given I live in the middle of nowhere (that has a waitrose). I do love the idea of a Bundler, surely poppers are a faff and a half at 3am?!

Thanks for the thread