November 2012 - the ten week countdown

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obviously dont really beat them with a bat lol.......just use it as a thought when they really start getting on your last nerve.

daisy did you have PE with your previous pregnancies? I did with my first at 38 weeks, my second at 39 weeks, but had a section booked anyway. I thought it got milder and later with subsequent pregnancies? I guess there is always an exception to a rule. Thinking of you especially as you have a little 5yo DD to think of. Hope big brother is being kind to her.

I was tempted jaylee it was quite amusing when DD called him daddy in front of the office

Oh bugger, I knew there was something I meant to reply to yesterday, but can't remember who posted it! Sorry

Whoever it was mentioned bottlefeeding, and making up feeds, the advice you were given about using pre cooled and fresh boiled water togther was incorrect. It is the MOST important bit, that the water must be above 70 degrees when the powder is added to kill the bacteria present in the powder. You can use a mix of pre cooled and freshly boiled water, but it must still be above 70 degrees when powder added, so will obviously be too hot for baby and will still need cooling.

I have seen people advising to add the powder to part fresh boiled water, shake to mix, then add the cooled boiled water to top up to correct quantity. But I don't like this method, it doesn't sit right with me, and wouldn't advise someone to do this, as the potential for getting quantities wrong seems high.

If anyone wants more guidance, there is a fab booklet on bottle feeding, which tells you all of the current guidelines etc. The DOH produced it. Will find a link...

And you can store a feed in the fridge, the guidance says so. It is just preferable to make each one freshly. If you do make a bottle and store it, the most important thing is to rapidly cool it and store it at back of fridge. And use with in 24 hours.

Bottlefeeding linky

VQ Your management sound as shit as mine

There is a reason why many people go in to management in the NHS...! However, one of our management team is a lovely woman, and has excellent people skills. She really has a way of making you feel valued. Shame others can't take note....!

Can't think about feeding at all at the moment. I dreamt that I was breastfeeding my cat last night. I was staring down at her wee pointy teeth thinking "hmm, maybe I should express"

YW it must be so hard to prepare yourself. We live in Stirling and I work in fife - best of both!

DP just told me my boobs leaked on him in bed last night.

News to me - I've had no leaking at all but can express enough for to feed a whole ward of newborns if I wanted to

Last time I leaked from 26 weeks. Not a sausage this time. I reckon DP was dreaming!

MIL has been taken to hospital with bad chest pains DP has gone up there, it's going to be a long night.

Tits hope everything is okay with your MIL. Does she have angina or something similar?

Detective that's shocking that they can't manage more than one homebirth at a time. Is that really the best service they can offer?

Time to turn in after a fun evening of eating nachos, drinking Cobra 0% and watching (the original) Total Recall. Don't worry I took four Gaviscon tablets so I should survive the night! I have a five hour tutorial tomorrow which may finish me off.

She's never had anything like this before, she's been having chest pain for 2 days apparently. She is very overweight and smokes quite a lot so her heart is at risk.

Brings it all back though, it's how I lost my mum 2 yrs ago.

Ooh, l love the 0% Cobra. vq I?ve never had PE before (Hence, l think why they keep asking if all 3 have the same father ~ which they do!). Hope everyone has lovely plans for the weekend

Tits My little baby is eight the week after next week too! She is the hardest thing ever to buy for because she has NEVER ever played with toys, she just climbs things and plays out. When I asked her what she wanted, she told me 'monkey bars in the garden', OK . Gawd knows what for Christmas, last year it was a CD player with albums from Kate Bush, Adele and the Boomtown Rats, I kid you not .

With regards to feeding lads at a party, you can't go wrong with lots of pizza. Cook it before you go, they will all shove it down their throats. I fed 17 10 year old lads in March with loads of stuff, the 8 pizzas went in 3 minutes! Also just butties, sausage rolls, a few mini pork pies and scotch eggs. Buy all the cheap Asda price crap as you will get lots of things with just one bite in them. All this will be demolished in less than 10 minutes, I guarantee it. Some crisps (again cheap crap), make some rice crispies buns and your jelly. That will give you 30 mins and 20 full laddies on a bargain shop. As for the token veg platter, put a punnet of tomatoes in the middle, you'll have loads left.

How much are you spending filling the bags, this can be really expensive once you add up the crappy toys and sweets? I just gave each a football and a milk roll (sports direct for the footballs, worked out at £2.50 each). Every party since, the lads have had a football. That way you know they love their party gift, will play with it and you haven't wasted your money - best present I have ever done at a party and I set a precedent lol!

DH know exactly what you mean about breaking up your pregnancy. The 24 week 'viable', the 28 week 'I feel better now your odds are a lot higher', etc. The 30 week 'right, I've nearly had enough', and the tweaks and twinges after that that you think, 'really, could it be' !

Apple I've been referred to Occy Health, my boss told me they will want me in their office to check things over, I told her they can feck off, I'm on the sick and am hoping that will last until maternity and they can come to me if they are that desperate or just ring me on my works phone like everyone else does.

YW Lol at your lovely hubby, so unreasonable when you need to rant at something . The Jedi mind trick only works on sex for me If you are anything like I am at that stage of pregnancy, you'll be living in the bath and have zero energy for anything, so I would just go for really nice bath stuff, Lush etc. but there again, I love bath stuff as a prezzie anytime and get dead chuffed with my Dove bath and shower gel set my mum buys me amongst other things at Crimbo

VQ What an incompetent arse! And he runs a team? Sounds worse than my place....

Apple you should have shouted VERY loudly, 'right, I'll get my tits out then shall I'! Bet they wouldn't dared moan about the milk to the hormonal preggers lady again .

Valium how about sending your twunt of a boss a summary email including something along the lines of 'despite requesting consideration for x position on x date, I am now not to be considered due to being on maternity leave'. Let the little arse get himself bollocked.

MM Don't blame you one bit. There is NO WAY I'd let anybody get away with commenting with what I eat, past problems or not. And moaning about eating fatty things because there is a risk of getting GD! Fuck, there is a chance of getting blown up by a letter bomb by opening junk mail but we all do it, don't feel guilty, I'd have gone doolally with all that whinge-arsing you've been taking ages ago. (Sorry about that MM, I've actually been wanting to say that for quite a while but it's really none of my business).

I'm posting in bits because I've got the 2 pages open and I'm catching up from Thursday morning :) So sorry for mahooooooosive posts!

Pass LOL at breastfeeding your cat!

Tits Hope your MIL is OK, not a good combination so hopefully this will give her a kick up the arse to stop abusing her poor body.

Right, a very long tale coming up, you may need to pop the kettle on and grab a brew because you are going to be amazed at the sheer lack of anything offered by my local hospital.

As you may pr may not remember, I felt all shitty the weekend before last, it was suggested that I may have an UTI and so I trotted along to the doctors, was diagnosed and given a weeks antibiotics to take. Lovely, no complaints, my doctor is fab!

I've been feeling exactly the same, really shit, have been to the midwife last Monday and Friday after my doctor looked into my blood pressure rates during my pregnancy and decided that it's now too high. He advised me to go to the labour ward, but I compromised (without telling him) and went to an antenatal drop in session twice that week, was told 'you're OK, don't worry'.

Still felt like shit, had a really bad night Thursday, but have not been able to put my finger on what is up with me, I just feel ill. Finished my course of antibiotics on Wednesday, don't think they've worked, can't get an appointment with my doctor so went along to the 'open session' Friday morning (yesterday) and got to see another doctor. She did the dip stick on my urine sample, agreed that there was white blood cells in it and said 'yes, you've still got the UTI, you need antibiotics'. All good, that's what I wanted to hear, give me my prescription and I'll feck off home.

Then she asks me my symptoms, I tell her I don't know what they are, I just feel really unwell, I have now started with headaches along with the flashing but apart from that, exactly the same. She then takes my blood pressure, then says, 'that can't be right, I'll do it again', then says she'll do it after as sitting in the waiting room for 2 hours for an appointment seems to have stressed me a little bit, I told her I don't get stressed about anything. At all. After being asked a few more questions and having my temperature taken, belly felt etc. she takes my blood pressure again, shakes her head, feels my pulse and then takes it again - 130 apparently, this is not good.

Then she asks how long I've had palpitations for,'I didn't know I had them', 'you are having them right now'. Then she asked me if I've ever been diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat, apparently my pulse was racing and then not doing anything, then a regular beat, then racing again, then nothing!

I got sent up to A&E as she said I could have gone to the labour ward, but my heart needed checking out and that was another department so A&E would co-ordinate everything.

No complaints about the time in A&E, must have been about 3 minutes to see the triage, then about 1 minute to get sent through. They hooked me up to a monitor, blood pressure at this point was 148 over 89, pulse all over the place and ECG very worrying by all accounts. Answered LOADS of questions, they took my blood, including my thyroid as I said I had a blood test booked for Monday at my GP's so could they do it instead just to check my range.

After a couple of hours my pressure started to go down, my pulse back to normal and my bloods came back clear. They had cancelled my thyroid function count as they didn't see it as relevant (some symptoms were of an overactive thyroid!). I was told that my urine sample showed no sign of white blood cells, even though 5 hours earlier I had seen for myself it had, but they gave me a prescription for the same antibiotics anyway even though according to them I HAVEN'T got an infection. They told me the obst & gyne people didn't want to see me and to get on my merry way as everything was normal.

So don't know how baby is, little baba wasn't even mentioned, don't know why they've given me antibiotics if they reckon I've no infection, don't know what caused all that, don't know what to do if it happens again and just feel like I wasted the whole of yesterday for no reason at all. I feel like I should just ignore all my symptoms and just rot on the settee.

I told them my ankles swelled last week but have gone down, I've started with headaches and still have the flashing and my massive rise in blood pressure is absolutely nothing to worry about ! So, if you live near me, don't bother going into hospital unless you are half dead.

At least I now know when I feel really shitty which has been a lot lately, it's only my blood pressure getting up to nearly 150, irregular heart beat and palpitations, nothing to worry about!

Frig, that was a BIG post.

Have also been up most of the night as sleep is a thing of the past.

I bloody love being in the third trimester........

Just to say also, when pregnant my blood pressure is usually around the 90/80 mark. Anything over 110 is high for me.

Oh yes, and even when I talked to the doctor in the hospital I couldn't breathe due to severe breathlessness.

Shelly please phone your midwife or go into the labour ward. Be as dramatic as you can about feeling ill, faint, flashing lights, swollen ankles. They may try and fob you off but it sounds like you need to be seen now. If you have pre-eclampsia then you and your baby are both at risk. You can't take any chances, better to piss them off than put your health at risk. Tell them all the other mums-to-be in your birth club are really worried about you and we're not supposed to be stressed out in our condition!

I agree with stunt shelley You are clearly not well, and you on your own are too precious to not look after properly, and especially so with junior on board! I know it is a pain, but A&E are experts in emergency care, they cannot know everything, and midwives etc are specialist in their area, and may see a pattern nobody else does. Do please insist on getting baby checked out if nothing else. Hopefully it will be a wasted trip, but I do not think anything about getting big and little precious bundle checked is a waste at all x so sorry you are having a rotten time x

Shelley, Phone your midwife! They are the experts, in baby.
Evil

I sent a very 'dropping the little shit in the shit' email yesterday, and have done so at each step. It is a good way of letting them know that you know, and having proof of communication too.

I am not sure I can do anything about the change of team refusal whilst on Mat Leave, as all he needs to say is Operational Need, and he can do it. Having been in management I would do the same but I would have been a bit more subtle about it. A lot can happen in a year though.

I got myself in such a state yesterday, and DH was not much support tbh. He was more annoyed that I wanted to drive home, and not let him (learner) in Friday rush hour. He then spent the evening in the kitchen on his iPad, sending me the odd text suggesting stupid baby names! He has been nice this morning though, and apologised when he came to bed. Git!

Agreed with vq and stunt Shelley you need to go back and insist on baby and you being checked again. Sorry you are feeling so poorly, if your BP and heart rate are playing up they shouldn't just be sending you home with antibiotics!

Ugh tired today.

My "little" boy is 8!
I filled his room with balloons in the night and DP decided to wake him with an air horn at 7am after getting in from the hospital at 3, MIL is fine, blood pressure slightly raised but they don't think there was a cardiac reason behind the pains.

So now to cook a ton of food for young boys to scoff.

Shelly I agree about going to the midwife or labour ward, it's not right for you to be left feeling like that at all.

Great news about your MIL Tits. There are a number of blood tests they'll have done that are used to diagnose cardiac damage along with the ECG so they should be able to tell that easily enough. My dad was rushed off to A&E with pain in his arm one time with my mother self-diagnosing a heart attack... it turned out he just had a sore arm! You can't be too careful though as the earlier the intervention the better the outcome.