November 2012 - the ten week countdown

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Thought it was the other way around YW? Being that the body will choose baby rather than you and that's why if you don't eat properly, you are at risk of osteoporosis as your body will suck the calcium straight out of your bones to make the milk. I thought that was how starving African women manage to bf their babies

In pregnancy yes but after birth - it'll pick you not the baby hence in famines most women's milk supply dries up and their babies die. Babies will still suckle for comfort but will be getting very little out. I guess evolutionarily it makes sense as the body figures if you survive you can always go onto have more kids :(

So go and eat cake!

I thought the same cat but that's from a purely biological and evological thinking!! I guess if fat stores we're really low then it would be an issue. Who knows!!

I'm 33 weeks today!! Just got one of the drs to check my burn, they said it's ok, just get it properly dressed. Now I need to find a willing nurse......

I'm also compiling my shopping list!! It's huge!!!

Plus there's so many variations on how much stuff you need clothe wise and how much stuff to take to hospital?? I'm sooooo confused!!

Ah that's why the body lays down fat now.... Thanks yw!!

I don't think I'm running any risks with regards to fat deposits here, I could probably share it around and have plenty left.. Still I best finish these Smarties just incase.

DP spent the night "playing" with the bump, putting his hand on my belly and waiting for the baby to run his hand/foot along it.

I've been called for my flu jab next week, I swear it seem earlier this year.

Yip - they also lay down enough fat to survive a good few days after birth on no or limited milk so if you have trouble with BF at first - perserve they'll not starve. That really really reassured me as I'm worried it'll take me a while to get the hang of it. The lovely midwife also showed us a wee ball the size of a newborn stomach. Soooooo small. Am feeling much more confident about it. It's so sad though that half of our antenatal group just didn't turn up to this weeks class as it was on feeding and they were clearly planning on bottle feeding and didn't want to hear about both options. I felt sorry for the midwife to see such a dip in numbers.

I think they can go quite rough without causing any probs. they will offer you a scan in a few weeks if there is any doubt. Or they should anyway.

Kissy I went overactive, went into nymph mode and then got pregnant He didn't know what had hit him but didn't complain one bit.

I need to go to Argos and pick up all my reserved items for baba, but I just can't be arsed......

Advice needed ahhhh I know we have spoken about this in the past. I got. Y gym ball out to blow up the other day and the stopper has gone missing they all seem so expensive now, where should I get one from? Which is the cheapest?

I got my ball off eBay for a few quid and it's seen/seeing me through two pregnancies.

I've spent the last few days freaking out because baby's movements weren't as vigorous only for today to completely change and she's been moving loads, why does she toy with me like that?!

sophia I bought a stopper for mine a few months ago. From amazon.

Ah YW, that makes sense.

Sophia I got a ball from Amazon for about £4 (just a gym ball, not a pregnancy specific one), but it's anti burst and came with a pump too, so a bit of a bargain.

DH Mine do exactly the same. I've got to the point where I've thought 'just half an hour more and I'm going to ring the hospital' and lo and behold, they both kick off like they're being poked with sticks!

Sophia I got mine at a nearly new baby sale for £3.50 including a pump. Try to get a 2nd hand one if you can, they're not worth purchasing from new!

Went to watch England v South Africa at Edgbaston last night. A great cricket match but SO cold and we had to park pretty far from the ground (or that's what it felt like walking back anyway) and my bump ached so much that I had to ask DP to go fetch the car and pick me up halfway back because I couldn't go much further. Got a bit worried when I came home because I hadn't felt the usual amount of kicks and wiggles from baby last night. Been a bit quiet this morning too, but had a few movements at lunch and am going to be keeping a sharp eye on movements for the rest of the day. They do like to play with us don't they?!

I'm starting to think the average unborn baby is a bit of a sadist... mine is exactly the same with regard to suddenly stopping moving for a few hours and just as I'm thinking of calling the mw (to persuade her, yet again, in case she has forgotten that I'm a headless chicken) he / she will do a big stretch and dance around. Little sod. Have got so many grey hairs (ok I've been avoiding dyeing my hair whilst updiffed because of the carcinogens but...) many of which are definitely stress related.....

Mine has been sat on my hips all day today. Ouch!

One of mine has been twanging something internal, very low, for the last hour. Feels like he's trying to dig his way out

Are we allowed to dye our hair whilst pregnant? Does anyone know what the current recommendations are? I think a nice cut and colour would cheer me right up about now.

I think the guidance is to minimise hair colouring, as basically they dyes are untested on unborn babies and the chemicals are pretty serious stuff. Because they are not tested on developing humans (I mean how could they test them on the unborn?) the truth is we don't know the long term damage that they could do. If we're worrying about ibuprofen and caffeine - slapping a load of much harsher chemicals onto your head and waiting for them to be absorbed into your body - has to be worse? Well that's my take on it. I look like a big blobby wobbly lady anyway so am not sure anyone has really noticed my greys...

YW I won't be attending the breastfeeding part of my ante-natal course either. It is a very personal decision and I know a lot of people that choose to bottle feed feel like people look down on them for making that choice. It's not necessarily true but I feel like that at times as well.

They did cover bottle feeding too so it wasn't just about BFing and were trying to make sure folks know the new WHO guidance on not making bottles up in advance due to bacterial risks... and lots of other bottle feeding tips too - like storing sterilised bottles half filled with cold boiled water in them in the fridge, so that you can make the bottle fresh as needed by adding the other half of boiled water and powder, and not need to microwave or need to wait for it to cool down. I thought that was great advice! Especially now you're not meant to microwave due to releasing chemicals and risking hot spot burns. So it wasn't a breastapo workshop by any means!

I can see if you've made your mind up you'd not attend but was surprised that there weren't more 'unsure' folks coming along to make their minds up and listen to both sides of the evidence. The mw did try to be balanced (well I thought so). There was a Mum there who had bottle fed her first, BF her second (seemingly for financial reasons) and hated it and was coming along to try to get a more positive mind set this time (she had real body issues about revealing her boobs it turned out). I think she really enjoying the video from Norway too as she was really weepy in a smiley kinda way. It is a really personal decision, and I guess lots of folks do their own research so maybe didn't want to attend a group thing - I guess if you are erring toward one option - you wouldn't want to hear about how great the other is. Whichever choice you've made.

I still felt for the mw as you could see that some of the most vulnerable Mums who had promised they would turn up, hadn't.

apple I get where you are coming from. I personally found that breastfeeding was the best bit, and I absolutely loved it (once the bleeding nipples had healed) and feel that mums who chose not to are missing out.

At the hospital yesterday I passed three heavily pregnant ladies outside the Mat unit having a smoke. I judged. I also had to walk through a cloud of smoke with my little girl, so I was doubly judgy pants.

People look down their nose at me for being fat, and when DD2 was 10lb 3, that was clearly my fault. I find it everso slightly amusing that a lady I know who criticised my elective section (another nose-looking-down excuse) went on to have a section too, by emergency, and plans to have an ELCS next time, and also criticised me for having a fat baby, but her toddler now makes mine look like a catwalk model. (ooh bitchy)

I just don't want to feel guilt-tripped into doing something which isn't right for me and I imagine that's what would happen if I went along to the class. I wasn't breastfed and my mum wasn't breastfed and I certainly don't think any of us have missed out in any way because of it.

Hmm maybe I'll just get the cut then for now.
I have the thickest hair of anyone I have ever met, it's a bloody nightmare to do anything with. I'm thinking of having it thinned right out and cut into a chin length bob, nice and easy to maintain while baby is wee.

I think guilt tripped is a bit harsh. I mean the NHS only promotes it for health benefits - as it reduces their costs down the line in terms of cancer, obesity (and upfront costs as they don't have to provide formula, though I know not all hospitals do this, and well the less they spend on that the more they can spend on stuff which doesn't have a free alternative) - you can see why they're so keen. It's not as if there is a huge BF corporate bribing them into lying though.... so sorry but I think 'guilt tripped' is a bit unfair.

If only the BF Mums could avoid the nauseating Aptimil ads so easily when their family are guilt tripping them to stop BFing before they are ready, sadly they are all over the telly especially during baby related progs like OBEM week in, week out.

Sorry just to clarify - I should stress I'm coming from a family where one half is v pro bottle and t'other v pro breast and where there are some really strong familial health issues which are making me think that for us BF is best. I'm going to try BFing as the science seems to make sense on it - but I won't beat myself up if I end up bottle feeding as my nieces and nephews on t'other side are thriving on it. I can't however say that either method will or won't suit me until I try but I've always been the sort of person who's never sure until I try!

I found the class really uplifting and with some great practical tips for both options. Also heard that the current advice for those looking at mix feeding or expressing is to introduce a cup at or before 3 weeks - so hopefully DH will be able to help do the nightfeeds using expressed milk. A cup apparently is less likely to result in nipple confusion (stop sniggering)...