TTC A 2012 BABY - THE GRADUATES PART 4!

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Mamma and McKayz's thread!

It's the home run ladies

Ladies, you have talked lots today and I cannot catch up right now (had a glass of wine and am now floating somewhere over la la land. Am very happy)

Does anyone know how I can send a monkey gram? I neeeeeed to send a monkey gram to my friend.

haha fools! Just the one glass?
Much better sleep last night! must've still been woken up for feeds 7 or 8 times but I slept from 22.00-09.00 so feel fine for it! Phew! it was the two nights in a row that really got me last time!
Sorry that you have it night after night ghost, you must be getting really run down. I'm sure I have it all to come!

Glad you had a good night, Trouble.

Yes, just the one. It's her birthday on Monday and I wanted to send it in with chocolates. Can I find one? Can I fuck! I want a monkey gram!

In other news, its my birthday!

Wow, I wish one got me to la la land!
~~HAPPY~~BIRTHDAY~^~!!!

Happy birthday to fools, happy birthday to fools, happy birthday dear foooooools, happy birthday to fools!
Have fun on the farm!

Happy Birthday Fools!!!!

Can I ask when you all started expressing(if you do express)? I did start a thread in the feeding bit but I didn't get many replies and I felt a bit like I was getting told off

I want to do a course in cake decorating that starts in September so DD will be 3 months old. DH is away so my Mum and Brother have said they will look after the boys. So I thought I could feed her just before I go out and then leave a bottle in case she wants feeding.

Happy birthday fools & a for later Have a fantastic day! Hope it stays dry for you and DS is extra specially nice to you and doesn't make funny comments about your bum

Sorry to ear about the lack of sleep for both ghost and trouble Its horrid, especially when you can't get any rest during the day either.

Well done on Rosalie's weight gain McKayz How's the bf going now? Any better? I hope so.

Looking forward to seeing the wedding pics Bun Not long to go now

Oh and fools, I think you should hire a monkey suit and do it yourself

Cross post McKayz I can't remember really, but I think it was about 8-9 weeks to see if she would take a bottle. I expressed about 2 oz and then that was it for a couple of weeks. After that I then expressed every time she went longer between feeds, after growth spurts etc when my milk production started to calm down. I should really start again, so I can build up a bit of a supply in the freezer.

How long will you be out for? Lauren's still feeding every 2-2.5 hours although I think 4 hours is more normal at 3 months? (If there's such a thing as normal!)

And cake decorating sounds fab!

Fyfe has never gone 4 hours! No longer than 2 (usually more) unless asleep! I started expressing a week after he was born! Have thrown most of it away now though as he doesn't want it!

You ought to be fine though mckayz depending on how long the class is, we've been out for dinner a couple of times, fed him just before we went and got back two hours later to a hungry but still happy baby.

Have had a quick read through your other thread now. There are some parts on there I agree with, and some I think will depend on Rosalie. But of course this is only my humble opinion so feel free to ignore

So I agree that to express and carry on bf at 3 weeks, on a regular basis will be a challenge. Your supply probably won't have settled and I'd imagine Rosalie won't yet have a proper feeding routine? Plus if she has, it's highly likely to change over the next few weeks. However, this will depend on Rosalie, as per the good old saying of every baby is different.

The other thing is trying to fit in expressing in between feeds. If Rosalie's still feeding very frequently, you might struggle with this. Also, missing the feed that you'll replace with a bottle, will probably make you sore for a bit.

Agreed that although Rosalie won't know DH very well yet, that's not to say she won't be more than happy to take a bottle from him. DS would take milk from DH and pretty much anyone - he loved his milk

So early on, there's also a risk of nipple confusion, although if you're still using the shields, this may help prevent that anyway. Apparently, this is because babies use a different technique to get milk from a breast vs bottle.

Personally, I'd be very reluctant to express a regular bottle with her being so young, but I would think about trying to express a little bit in a couple of weeks. Just to see a) if she will take a bottle and b) how you get on with expressing.

Oops - that was really long And as I said, do ignore if you think I'm talking rubbish

And all this talk of expressing has made me realise that we haven't heard from the lovely ellie lately.

Hi ellie if you're reading - hope things are going well for you

It was the bit about her not knowing DH that really pissed me off on that thread and the help and support crap. She's heard his voice everyday of the pregnancy albeit via the phone and he is her Dad. Plus I have plenty of support and help.

I might just not bother with that course. This is the hardest part of BF. I can't be myself as well as DD's Mum

I'm having a down day I think. She's having a growth spurt I think, she won't stop feeding or sleep anywhere but on me as if I move her she cries. I can't even go to the toilet.

Sounds exactly like it mckayz, I remember those days well. Can you take her to the toilet with you? It is so exhausting when they are having a growth spurt! All that stuff does stop though, Fyfe hasn't done it since 3 months. I think your course will be perfectly timed and it's important to do something for you. How long are the sessions?

They are 2 hours long. It's just 6 weeks of 1 evening a week.

Aw you poor thing It's so easy to feel down with lack of sleep, emotions all over the place and a baby you are trying to get to know

She will know your DH, especially as she's heard his voice everyday And I'm sure he's grabbing every opportunity for cuddles while he can It was a bit rude Although I can relate a little, as it took my DH weeks to bond with Lauren, as she was is SUCH a mummy's girl. But then I still think he suffered from a bit of PND.

Bf is restrictive, especially in the early weeks, but please try not to let it get you down. As others have said, it does get easier and at 3 months, Rosalie will be a completely different baby. And you will be able to have much more freedom. Presumably, the course you want to do wont be full time, in which case, expressing for that should be fine

I'm considering mixed feeding when I go back to work, as with my job it will be very difficult to express because I'll be all over the country and the travelling required won't allow the storage I'll need (fridge etc). I'm trying to console myself with thinking about just how much she's changed in the last 15 weeks, and then wondering how much she'll change in the next 10-15 weeks

Try to get some extra rest and snuggles today, and if that doesn't work, I can highly recommend a big bag of Wispa Bites Yum yum! I ate nearly a whole bag to myself last night so I think that my position in the global fat scale may well have gone up

Cross posted again because of my stupidly long posts

I would sign up for it 2 hours would be fine to leave her for. You could feed her before and after, and if you're really worried, have an emergency feed in the freezer that you can build up over the couple of weeks leading up to start of the course That way, it can be defrosted if required or left there for the next week

at the sly hug!
Yes mckayz you can definitely do the course! 2 hours will be fine for sure at that age, go for it!
I was thinking too, on days like this I used to pick a time to go out for a walk and stick to it as he wouldn't ever stop feeding, I used to just stop him, get him in the sling and get out! He'd soon fall asleep and I'd get a break!

Davina and Trouble thank you for all the lovely posts yesterday. Feeling better today.

Dd slept all night. She fed from about 4 til 11 yesterday evening. Then woke up at 5 for a feed. Apart from looking like I snuck off and had a boob job I feel great!!

Now going to King's Lynn for the weekend to see family. All 5 of us are in 1 hotel room tonight. Gonna be fun!!

Have good weekends everyone!

Really glad to hear it mckayz! Have a lovely weekend away with your family!
I have been up every hour again but don't feel too bad for it today!

McKayz, very glad you feel better this morning. Sorry you felt told off, some people are less than helpful and arseholes. Try expressing. Ds refused the bottle and I fear Flissy looks like she is going the same way, but it works well for other people.

I was going to suggest, if you did find it as hard as some pessimists say you must, there are very good books available on amazon (I'm currently working on a really good sugarcraft one). Perhaps you could teach yourself, at your own pace and in your own time. Having children should not mean sacrificing your own wants, you just need to find a new way to do things occasionally.

Glad you're also feeling okay this morning, Trouble. Flissy sleeps well but ds was a nightmare for a loooong time so I will always sympathise.

Have woken up to rain :(. Yesterday was lovely. Thank you all for the birthday wishes. We had sun, good food, lots of fresh air and I ran around a soft play centre for over an hour! My cake is still in the box though. Oh, ds trod in horse shit and then asked his daddy to pick him up. It went all over his jeans! I nearly wet myself. Get to do it all again with good food, cake and more presents at my parents house this afternoon. Ds has, randomly, started pestering to have a sleepover there so we shall be leaving him. My pfb!

Great news McKayz Have a fabulous weekend! We had all 4 of us in one room at my sisters last weekend. It was so lovely when everyone was asleep if a bit hectic at times

Sorry about the pack of sleep Trouble I was up at 2, 4, 4.30, 6 then 8, so I sympathise It's great that you don't feel too bad but try to get some rest today if you can - I find the tiredness sneaks up on me when I'm least expecting it And it's usually the minute I sit down an Lauren decides its tune to get up

Glad you had a lovely birthday fools Sounds like you have a fun packed weekend too Has DS not had a sleepover at your parents before? DS loves going to my IL's, as they spoil him rotten and let him get away with murder

So today is an exciting day of catching up on the housework for me But we're hoping to go out with our friends and their 2 kids to the soft play tomorrow. Which means the 2 DH's will get to run round with the boys while us ladies drink diet coke, eat cupcakes and sit with the (hopefully) sleeping babies

Ok I really should check my posts more! Stoopid autocorrect Maybe the tiredness has already sneaked up on me today