TTC A 2012 BABY - THE GRADUATES PART 4!

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Mamma and McKayz's thread!

It's the home run ladies

Ooh ghost if you come to Halifax, have you got time for/do you want to go for a very strong coffee? Monday's my day with both kiddies so I usually try to get out, but I haven't decided on a plan for this week yet. Brighouse was fine but I've not been to Halifax. Surprisingly, there haven't been any fb reports from Halifax suffering, so I assume it's all clear with the exception of Elland. Well, for now at least!

Glad you're feeling better Bun and Lilly's settled down again Lovely to hear about Odin too. Although you need to tell trope to stop getting distracted by RL - we miss her!

Has Rosalie woke up yet McKayz? It may be that she hasn't sorted out her body clock yet, so she might think its night time?

Did you manage to fix the defect ellie?

Well we made it to the swimming baths and DS had a brilliant time DD not so much! We didn't take her in for very long as I knew she wouldn't cope for very long. But we still had lots of tears She looked really cute in her cossie. The only thing is, she's so long, that it only just fit her! 3-6 months and she's not quite 3 months yet But DS who's 2.5 was wearing one that's size 1-1.5! Go figure! I have an odd family And I discovered that I really need some new swim wear. None really fits properly anymore, so shopping trip for me

Is the M62 your fave road too davina? Defect is sort of fixed, had about 3 hours since 4am!!!! That's jake not me no poo today yet so he is a bit grumpy

I avoid the M62 as much as possible DH drives on it every day for work and he hates it! Gosh that's not much sleep at all You must be shattered!

davina I'd love to but I'm not driving up until Monday afternoon . I'm leaving on Friday but if you'd like to meet any other time I don't have much on, except getting out running and at the climbing wall while I have childcare . That should help to balance the huge amount of cake I'm likely to consume!

Ok - I can't do Thursday/Friday but am free Tuesday/ Wednesday so can fit round whatever plans you have

Hmmm...bit of a me me me post but just wanted to write this somewhere....Violet's birth has really been playing on my mind the last week. To the point where if I think about it a lot it makes me cry. I feel so haunted by what happened and also how I was during it. I just feel disturbed by when I was pushing (for 3hours) how animalistic it was and how I couldn't control any of it and how every push did nothing because she had her face to the side. And the pain being so unbelievable and how they kept getting me to lay in my back which was totally the worst position for me to be in. And then the Dr inserting the cup and how I screamed and then how they pulled her out. It all just feels so out of my control. DP and I were in total control of the whole labour until it got to the pushing. Although I can't say I was enjoying it, it did feel like we were empowered by the labour and about to meet our baby. But then it all went so wrong. And basically whenever I think about it, it makes me so upset. Occasionally when I look at Violet my heart swells so much with love and then I remember how traumatic her birth was. It's day 16 at the moment and we've got ourselves into a nice routine. DP is going back to work on Monday which I'm finding a bit daunting but also ok. Am rambling here......just had to write this down. x

Mamma would it help you if you got to have a meeting with one of the midwives or consultant that was at your birth? A friend had a traumatic birth that ended in an emergency section under general anesthetic(sp). She had a meeting and discussed it all and it really helped her. Hope you're ok.

My milk has come in. It really hurts and my breasts feel like they weigh a ton. Rosalie has been having a good few feeds tonight.

Mamma that sounds awful, most people I talk to assume I just went into labour early and jake was born da dah! When the reality is very different, I also think it took a while for me to realise as the doctors etc were really calm at the time and everything just happened, no control over anything!! it's only now I think about what could have happened. It makes me angry, i guess, that i didn't see him for 8 hours, not even as they took him away and did all these things to him that I didn't have a clue about. Is there someone you could talk to? I've read on here about people having a debrief after birth with a midwife I think. To be honest I try not to think about it cos it just makes me cry I have to remind myself that he's here and he's ok and that's the most important thing.

Go rosalie sounds like you're getting the hang of it now

Yay mckayz! Fab news!
Fyfe and I are on our way back from my sister's hen do, we left at 5am this morning and will get home at 1.30am, Fyfe is now fast asleep in the portable cot I brought on the train table but has been awake for all but a total of about an hour an a half of naps since 4.30am! He has been a little angel too! I hope I'm going to sleep really well tonight and have a lay in tomorrow! DH can always get up with Fyfe after a feed but I will be surprised if he is up at normal time considering our busy day!
ellie that was fools wanting twins, not me! I have twin nieces, that's enough for me!
Hope it helped to write down how you've been feeling mamma? Maybe it would help to write out your whole story (at home or on here) so you can start to come to terms with it?
bun and trope let me know when you want to meet, not sure if I misunderstood from the email.

Oh Mamma that's awful I second (third?) what others have said about getting a debrief with either a MW or a doctor. I had one for my DS but not until my pregnancy with Lauren. Although my labour with him wasn't particularly traumatic (although did end in CS), I found it really helped me. Make sure it's with someone you trust & respect though, and preferably someone who wasn't actually at your labour. Mine was with the consultant and she basically told me what my notes said happened. She also explained a couple of things that happened, that we were not told about, eg DS being back to back. She also told me straight about what shouldn't have happened eg they shouldn't have broken my waters so early because baby was back to back. Because she had no vested interest in protecting her own back, she was very open with me. Please carry on posting about it here if it helps, and watch out for PND. Speak to your DH as well, if you can, as you might not see it straight away. Sending big hugs.

Great news about your milk McKayz Glad it's coming together for you

That's a ridiculously long day Trouble! Hope you both manage to get some sleep - as you can probably tell, that's more than I'm doing! But back to bed now so hopefully will manage it. I'll need the energy tomorrow to go see the Olympic Torch!

I've had a really bad night. DD has been awake nearly all night wanting to be fed. I don't mind her wanting to be fed but she wouldn't sleep anywhere but on me. She wouldn't even sleep next to me.

The boys were up at 6

I feel awful, am hoping I might be able to get a nap later when my dad is here.

Poor you It does sound like she's all upsy daisy with her body clock. Why do babies not know when it's nighttime? Hope you manage to get some sleep later.

I've woken up with a sore back & head today And had a night of bad dreams too. Very random!

It's a good thing she's so blooming cute

Tell me about it! It's a bit of design ingenuity - otherwise there would be so many returned, they'd have to recall most of the batches

Phew! Got sidetracked by a thread in chat on Friday evening and, thanks to you gossips, have spent ages today catching up!

Mamma, I'm so sorry you're struggling. Definitely get some closure. What the others have suggested is so sensible and we are always here to listen if you want to talk it through.

McKayz.... can I say I told you so? Thrilled feeding is easier for you now. :( you're getting no sleep, but just remember its only because you are her favourite thing and make her feel safe.

Yes, its me who is crazy and wants twins. They don't run in either family so its not likely to happen but it'd be great! Ds and I have just popped to the shops and, while I was busy battering ignorant aisle blockers, he was very politely saying "excuse me please". Put me to shame!

Have still not found 2 of ds's cars but found 2 different ones hiding in the boot of my car. Should I just replace the missing ones and be done with it?

Depends if you want double fools; as soon as you buy new ones they will turn up of course!

Have felt a lot better today. Not teary. Just reflective over it. Violet's becoming more and more alert and focusing in on my face. She's so beautiful I will post a photo when I turn the laptop on.....(one day). The midwife is coming tomorrow to weigh Violet. Hopefully she'll be at her birth weight now and can be discharged. Though I have liked the midwives a lot more than the health visitor.

Hope you've had some rest mckayz hats off to you with looking after all your little ones single handed. Was telling DP about you and he just couldn't believe how you're doing it all. We just need to get your DH home to you and his baby girl

Thanks for your comments about the birth. I've not spoken to DP about it much so I think I'll open up about my feelings a bit more.

Really glad you had a better day yesterday, Mamma. Hope today is good too.

Ds and I are baking a chocolate cake today. A proper one with melted diary milk on top. Just thought I'd share.

Can I have some cake pleeeaaaaase fools! Sounds so good

DP went back to work today, it sucks so bad! So far so good with Violet, lots of boob time. Although I'm worried about her mouth. She's got a white tongue, could it be thrush? Midwife coming to weigh her today so will ask her. Humpf.

Glad you're feeling a bit better mamma
Fools you made both crazy and mean!mmmm cake
I am cos the tumble dryer has broken, probably because of all the vomity washing it has had to dry, off to find a new one, any recommendations? Needs to be condensing

ellie just buy my airer! It's cheaper and more efficient than my tumble (although I have an integrated washer drier)

It won't be my cake I'm just the mug who buys ingredients and works the oven, so anyone wanting some has to ask ds. Sorry!

Woohoo!!!!

MW has just been and Rosalie has lost 6oz, her jaundice looks good and the MW is very very happy with her!!!

Yay mckayz that's like a big poo!!
Fools I can't even fit our bedding (king size) on the massive rotary washing line!! My found a nice one in the supermarket OH works at so with staff discount and a voucher we got for jake it's not horrifically expensive, phew. I'm still going to buy my pretty bag as that's my money not joint!!!

Ellie I would die if I had no tumble drier. We only have a little yard so can't put much out and not much room for an airer.