Due in October 2012 - Part 5

[Kyyria]

Just starting us off on a new thread

So Crazy is your new name, Dame? I thought for a moment you meant you were someone new but you'd killed Dame...

Well the hungry hordes are away well fed and the sun obligingly came out at lunchtime so able to spend the day in the garden - was lovely! Thankfully the bean behaved herself and hasn't given back any gyp so far today... fingers crossed!

Huffle - will PM you about hospital! :)

Elpis good tips about being active post baby. Love outdoor swimming, used to swim in the river at college but some people do sea swimming near here, strong currents though.

Dame / Crazypaving - any renovation work completed should be celebrated! :) If we ever get into new house I shall be known as FinallyInEvenThoughItNearlyFuckingKilledMe. Catchy, eh?

Grrrr! Just discovered why Philips Avent range on great offers everywhere!!! They have a bloody new range called Natural. Looks like they replacing normal range with it!!!!!! And I've bought plenty, got the breast pump breast feeding essentials kit today!!! Well, serves me right for trying to be organised!!!! Oh and it was like Christmas here today, unpacking this set.... Don't even think of trying to work this stuff out after baby comes!!!! So moral of the story??? If u fancy bargains, get buying Avent now. If u love the latest stuff, WAIT!!! And me planning to BF too.....

I officially have not killed Dame, just taken her identity a la interweb fraud . All is well, I am just now crazy. always have been, really...

Well done for today Angelico, don't know where you found the energy! Looking forward to your new name - extremely catchy indeed!

huffle hooray for bargains, boo for missing out on the new range! I'm sure the new range isn't particularly different!

Tee hee, well spotted crazy the mumsnetter fomally known as dame....we're not drinking pee all the time, we are drinking and peeing all the time. huffle is right, i was completely overwhelmed and confused by all the sterilisation equipment at the baby show - need to buy soon and figure out how it all works before bean arrives.

I think i have a naughty bean on my hands. My yoga centre had chanting workshop on last nite - normally that would be a bit random for me, but i thought, ooh, how lovely for the bean, all those reverberations!! But the bean was rummaging about like crazy all through the day yesterday and i kept willing him/her to sleep so he/she could wake up and enjoy the chanting, but did he/she? No! He/she carried on wriggling about through the day and then slept all through the chanting. Naughty bean!! :)

One of my best friends had an abnormal smear a few weeks ago and a biopsy and she phoned today to tell me that they found cancerous cells and she is going into hospital tomorrow to have her womb, cervix and top part of vagina removed. Fuck . Puts my petty gripes right into perspective. Feel very grateful today for what I have, and very sad for what she is about to go through and what she will never have the chance now to have . She is the same age as me (37) and hasn't yet met anyone she wants to spend her life with; she has always seen herself having kids, and would be such a great mum and partner to someone. Can't imagine having to deal with the knowledge that her body will no longer be capable of that, as well as the headfuck of suddenly being diagnosed with cancer, and early-onset menopause which I think is an after-effect of a hysterectomy. She's so amazingly strong and positive, no idea how she is managing to be like that.

Oh Yomping that's awful about your friend, what a terrible thing to have to cope with. You're right, really does put things into perspective. Hope you're OK too.

Yomping really hope the surgery is at least successful. How unbelievably awful, your poor friend.

Oh Yomping that is horrible news. Puts all our whinging about the actual joy and fortune of pregnancy in to stark perspective. Cannot really say anything else except offer support to you and sympathy to your friend. Love and hugs. X

Hello all,
Yomping sorry about your friend . On the earlier moaning note, I agree with you at present. I had been walking on my lunch break and swimming Friday and Saturday. Not setting the world on fire but at least moving. Anyway since my childcare has gone up the swanee I haven't been for a walk or swim in 2 weeks. Feel that cabin fever sensation.
Elpis great advice. I agree, unless you are disiplined a free 2 hour slot can just melt away. You gotta run out the door 2 mins after DH/sister/babysitter arrives, do your thing, and get home. I also love to carry baby and mean to buy a sling this time.

Kyria I did a masters in my 20s that was great career wise. Without doubt I could not do it with children. Mine involved a lot of travel, 1 weekend a month in Dublin, over a 2 year period. The urgency you have to do it now seems to be that it will become prohibitively expensive if you wait a year - are you sure of this? Look I don't know you, I probably couldn't advise my best friend on this but think - in a year's time you will be juggling work and childcare (Childcare is fraught with unreliability - definitely not like death and taxes.) I have had to take 3 weeks off work this year when DS was excluded from creche (1 week for chicken pox, 1 wk for 'hand, foot & mouth' and 1 wk for diarrhea). My job allowed me to take annual leave at short notice and I had saved AL when I went back to work. A small baby, a full time job and life gives you 3 balls in the air to juggle. Can you fit a 4th?

Elpis thanks for bra tips

Evening ladies :)

huffle good info on the baby bottles, thanks! Can't see a huge difference between the two ranges and think you can just get the new teats if you wanted them but use everything else with them?

Crazy I hope you have been out enjoying your crazy paving :o

Beccus that sounds like classic bean behaviour :o The yoga stuff sounds really good, wondering if it's too late to start now. Had really good intentions early on but it's only now that I seem to have the time to do anything like that...

Yomping that is really sad about your friend, just so bloody unfair :( Hope she makes a good recovery - thank god she went for her smear and it got picked up, she'll be well looked after She will probably be a very devoted 'auntie' to your bean and if she wants to be a mum she may well have a family by marriage (stepkids) or fostering / adoption in the future. Years ago I worked with a lovely lady who had survived breast cancer and had married a widower with young children. He just thought she was amazing and she had a lovely family life so it's not the end of the road for your friend's dreams of a family :) Once she gets through her treatment things will look brighter

Lisbeth it's interesting reading what you said about the whole childcare thing and how it can bomb without notice. We are going to be very reliant on creche because we have no family nearby so waiting for this exact scenario in the future

Have really had a lovely weekend here, especially weather wise, which has totally transformed my mood! Only fly in the ointment: heartburn. Swigging Gaviscon three times a day. I do have some omeprazole because my tum flares up a couple of times a year just with busyness / stress/ crap eating but only ever need to take them for about 2 days and it settles again. Haven't needed them for over a year but might take them for a couple of days to see if they help. Bit reluctant though although GP assured me they were safe in pregnancy when she gave me some pre-pregnancy in Dec and knew we were planning to ttc. I ended up not needing them but assuming a couple of days worth won't do any harm

Oooh Londonmrs just catching up and saw your post about the midwife led birth centre and I think I'm going to the same one (hopefully). Went on a tour on Saturday and loved it!

Angelico I have done a bit of googling on new Avent stuff, looks like can use same bottles but new teats will only go on with new screw caps and unable to buy screw caps on own without bottles. Am sure I will manage with what I have!! Plan is to BF if works but express from early as back to work so soon. Avent been popular for years, am sure we can live without new ones!!!

Sorry, no more catch up today, so tired I could cry.

YompingJo sorry to hear about your friend . I'm glad it was caught in time and hope the treatment works well. It sucks that she will never experience pregnancy, it's not bloody fair. But, families come in all shapes and sizes and she could still be a mum one day.

Yomping so sorry to hear about your friend. Cancer is a cu*t. Like the others have said, there may be a way to still become a family but it won't be the way she had hoped. I want to hug her and I don't even know her. I have a friend who had similar treatment and it is not easy - but happily it was effective.

Angelico send some bloody good weather over here - still peeing down. I may even have to stick the heating back on. Wrongness. And I have lots of Olympic tickets - going to largely be a cold soggy washout. I was so impressed by your entertaining skills (normally I entertain a lot but haven't had the energy) that I had friends for dinner yesterday. And managed to actually cope without passing out on the table. Get me, it's only taken 25 weeks of pregnancy to pull my finger out enough to do this.

On the exercise front I am still managing about 3 times a week. Which is a lot less than before pregnancy but still enough to stop me feeling crazy. However, my muscle tone has changed a lot on my legs and arms and I do not like it one little bit. Core still strong from all the pilates but limbs need some serious work once I get this baby cooked. Going to try and up the exercise as I know the nearer the end I get the less chance there is on anything happening.

Work - can't be arsed. That is all I have to say - I just can't be arsed. Have good and bad days and still working hard but just want to give everyone two fingers and poke my tongue out. Pregnancy is making me very immature.

And farewell Dame welcome crazy now no more name changing you will mess with our pregnancy brains

Hope the week is kind to you all.

Hi everyone. Thanks for all the support and advice RE Nobber GPs and Consultants. I've become more used to the idea now and it's not as upsetting. I think I really will just do my best not to worry and prepare myself for the possible eventuality that my child may come out with the same problem. It won't be the end of the world as I know exactly how to deal with it, but I'll still feel very guilty. Oh well. We'll just get on with it.

Yomping thats awful news about your friend. Think where she would be if she didn't have treatment though- there are plenty of ways of having a family, just obviously not in the way that she hoped. Still better than having cancer though? Big cuddles. For you and your friend.

Any SPD sufferers here? I've got the same pain as I had when I went to A&E.. it comes when I stand or am on my feet for too long, and I've read up on the symptoms and I've got pretty much every one going. I bought a bump support band today which did help a little bit but unfortunately i'd been on my feet for a while before that so its still very painful. The only thing that relieves the pain is laying down for a while. Does anyone know if it runs in families? My aunty had it and ended up on crutches with both her pregnancies.... Help! :(

hope you are all well.. thanks to all of you for your amazing support and comfort, and the cheerfulness you all bring to me everyday. I'm so glad i found this website!!

I think SPD is just the luck of the draw Mickey. I hope your support band helps and things don't get to bad.

DS has informed me that Father Christmas is not real . I nearly burst into tears. Please treasure all that magic with your babies because it's fleeting . At the same time, I was proud of him for figuring it out by himself and growing up. It was a strange mix of feelings!

Wantanorange He's not real? I feel so stupid.

Mickey don't think I have had full blown SPD so not much in the way of advice I am afraid. Glad you are at peace with your Doctor stuff - I do think what they said to you made them prime nobbers but good to move on. You are right - you will deal with it. We are adaptable people like that.

Having a bit of argie bargie at work. Work is full of nobbers.

Evening all :)

Huffle that is really annoying about the bottles but I'm sure the old ones are just as good. They just need to keep inventing new stuff so we'll go out and spend even more money...

Midget round of applause on cooking dinner for people. We seem to be eating out a lot lately...

Mickey really hope it isn't SPD. On this babycentre website someone has written a comment recommending a serola belt. Had never heard of them before but might be worth a try? They seem to be about £35 online in variety of places.

WantanOrange that is really cute about your DS - can understand the mixed emotions :) If he is very young I probably would have bluffed it out but that's because I'm a big kid :o

Right ladies of MN, help me out. There is a very groovy party I have been invited to this week to do with book. It's in London. I will meet lots of nice editor and writer people and see my agent who I mostly only get 'talking' to by phone and email. Obviously I have to fly over and I have the permission letter. I can go for 2 nights or just one and stay with friend. They are so nice they have even said "Wear your maternity jeans if that's what's comfy!" I have worked hard for this dammit!!! Should be easy BUT have been getting sudden, agonising ligament pains when I walk any distance and that's even without my ON bag. BP is down and I don't want to put it up. Have a superstitious thing about flying at the best of times never mind when I am 'with bean child' DH back at work so only me to keep on top of renovations. What to do what to do what to do??? Should I stay or should I go?

And should say renovations are at critical stage - some work needs to be done for Wednesday night for a specialist dude to come in on Thurs and if it doesn't all happen when it's supposed to the whole house of cards will come crashing down.

Yikes, Angelico, decisions decisions! Can you write a list of pros and cons for going vs not going? Sounds like a fab opportunity, but then you don't want to have loads of what-ifs.... No advice from me I'm afraid!

Mickey another SPD sufferer here I had it worse post-birth than pre with DS, but am getting twinges now, quite a few weeks earlier this time. Saw my midwife today and she's put through an urgent referral for physio. It's ruddy horrible, my sympathies.

WantanOrange aw bless your DS! I can imagine that's quite a milestone to reach

midget I'm seriously impressed with you going to the gym 3x week. I haven't done any "proper" exercise for....

Well, the baby's still breech, as I thought (can feel its head bumping against my ribs, OW, and its little feet pounding my bladder). Am starting to panic about the possibility of it not turning in time, freaking out about ECV and its failure rates & risks, and the possibility of an ELCS. I just hadn't factored any of this into my thinking at all. I can't not drive for 6 weeks, I really just can't, bearing in mind where I live (village) and DS who needs to get out and about. I know it's too early to panic, but i'm still panicking. I need baby flipping vibes my way please

crazy have you tried pulling off the moves on that baby flipping website? There was a really good thread about breach on here that u was looking at yesterday, think it was in the childbirth section. Other than that I shall send baby flipping vibes.

Angelico I would try and go if I were you. Speak to the dr and check flying won't up your blood pressure and the. Go for 2 days so you can rest the day after the party and don't get too knackered. And get lots if taxis. as long as it is not when the Olympics are on as you won't get a cab for love not money

Angelico - I think I'd go if at all at all possible. Rest before and after, but it sounds like a lovely invite

angelico I think I would go if you want to but feel absolutely free to not go if you actually don't want to, if that makes sense. Yu are pregnant so you are absolutely allowed to be selfish and a little bit irrational and if the idea of going makes you feel stressed and like you want to stay at home then you should.
crazy baby flipping vibes coming up, chances of flipping still v good, ecv not too bad and really safe these days and also often you can drive sooner than 6 weeks post section if it comes to that (my leaflet says 2 weeks if uncomplicated and ok doing emergency stops etc) hope it doesn't come to that though!
micky glad you are feeling a bit better re nobbers, hoping SPd settles down for you.
Take care all!