We're BROOKING NO ARGUMENT for easy and blooming pregnancies and pain free sneeze births (part 9)

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Here we go again.......

Biscuits wow. Just wow. I can't believe how well you're doing in such a challenging situation. I don't think your DS1 is getting a raw deal at all, it's the total opposite. Despite your exhaustion and the fact that you're taking perfect care of a teeny man who is ebf, you STILL find time to cook with your older son?! That's definitely superstar Mum territory. I do hope that you manage to get some more rest/sleep soon though.

Lovely to see you Too! How's it all going?

Farfalla I think heparin is an anticoagulant like clexane and fragmin. Not sure though. It's exciting that you're so close to your 12 week scan! Lot's of No Brooking for you!

Popcorn your sister sounds like a wise woman! I don't suppose she has an equally pithy phrase for dealing with annoying pepole asking if you've had the baby yet in your last couple of weeks of pg?

Someone in Style & Beauty has come across a glitch on the Dorothy Perkins website...two 25% off codes working at the same time (DPVIPD & DPVIPE) so you get a total of 44% off (plus buy one get one half price on some maternity wear!) I've just stocked my entire maternity wardrobe :o

Sadly not scream but this might cheer you up? :o

Sorry for my whinge earlier - I do feel better for ranting though.

I do know that most of you are dealing with heaps more than me. If I'm supermum then what does that make y'all?

Love it Popcorn!

I've had three calls from my Nan so far this morning, she's obviously convinced that the only reason I would not answer the phone is because I'm giving birth, and somehow this thought makes her want to call me MORE frequently when I'm not responding rather than just waiting for news. In the end I had to answer her most recent call even though I was in the middle of my imw appt!

I've also had texts from a person at work this morning, that I'm not even particularly close to. I actually responded with "I have a blanket ban on baby updates, I am not giving out any information until the baby has arrived and I get around to sending out a general announcement." I haven't had a response to this yet...

I had 4 people chasing me yday, and 3 the day before. Give it a rest people!!!

FFS scream what are they like! looks like having a week late + baby last time has put off anyone getting too excited here My neighbour across the road did ask but she though I was due the first week in April not the last so I will let her off.

Biscuits I am so impressed that you still did the baking We baked one day last week and I have promised to make biscuits this week (so DS can cut out shapes) but failed so far.

I nearly greeted today when I was putting DS down for his nap - had a busy morning up early for appointment etc and was feeling a bit knackered. Just got his nappy changed and into bed then half way through a wee story he did a poo and I had to get him back out for another change. (He has conned me into a nap-time story as I used to miss his bed time story when I worked shifts so I said ok once.)

Brooking for scarlet here too.

MW appointment was fine here today - DS and DH came too and DS tried to get my tummy out as soon as we got in - poor MW was trying to get ready to do my BP measurement! Tummy still about the right size, baby 1/5 engaged today and still lying along the right side - presumably still ROP although this MW didn't note it.

I think I got the fragmin injections for a week after my CS? The MW came round and did them.

I think I might be the victim of the kind of date mix up your neighbour mentioned Jaggy. A lot of people know I'm due in April, but almost none seem to realise I'm due on the 28th - right at the end. Plus I've been off work for so long now people just assume I MUST be overdue by now.

Still - two weeks today

I wonder how Scarlet's day is going...? Still No Brooking. I hope Dream is having a better day as well.

farfalla - heparin is the drug. Clexane and fragmin are brand names for the low molecular weight heparin that you can inject in fatty tissue :). It is a wonder drug that has enabled me to have two children when without it my chances of carrying a baby to term would be at twenty percent :) I want to campaign for it to have human rights I love it do much (except at 38 weeks when I am one big bruise and grumpy!).

A very quick post from me until I get chance to pop back later.

Thanks for all the brooking - it worked! Successful ECV, no problems whatsoever. Going back next week to check it's stayed put, if it has I will be left for things to occur naturally. So I will be ramping up the RLT, pineapple and bouncing on my ball.

Will catch up properly later.

Glad it went well, did they say why they didn't induce you then as that is what you were expecting?

Whoop whoop Scarlet!

The power of brooking eh? It really knows no bounds!

Hope the ECV wasn't too uncomfortable and that labour comes before that baby spins again (it won't, the matter has been brooked about!)

Yay scarlet! Excellent news :)

What do they actually do at an ECV?

pomme I am with you on the wonder drug, obviously I am not out of the woods yet but have never got this far before!!

scarlett that is excellent news, we are now not brooking any argument that a nice gentle and quick labour starts naturally for you whenever you are ready.

I feel so tired I could cry, I AM NOT COMPLAINING just want to make that clear but still, am exhausted and having dinner with good uni friend I have not seen in months. She works in PR for restaurants and has wangled some freeby amazing dinner at posh restaurant and all I want to do is go home and eat toast and babybels and go to bed

Yay Scarlet! Now, BabyScarlet, stay put! Or start burrowing further down, but no more squirming sideways for you. The Brookers have spoken.

Biscuits, if Dream is Superwoman, then you must be Wonderwoman!

Scream, can you not just tell people that the baby will be born by CS on 25 April so there is no need to call you before then? Tell them the doctor said it wouldn't come before then. Also, you might just be lucky and get a hospital that doesn't bother with the DVT injections once you've been discharged.

Jaggy, these BH/labour pains sound promising. Maybe you will be next!

Maia has grown to a chubby 8lb 3, which is brilliant. Last time she was weighed (2 weeks ago) she was 6lb 10, so I am dead chuffed. We have just tried a short walk, Maia, dog, pram and I, including a short but very steep hill and I am not as tired and sweaty as I thought I would be. My hands ache from holding the extendable dog lead and the pram handle, though - there must be a better solution. Off to Google long dog leads that reel back in when you need them to but are less chunky to hold...if such a thing exists.

I do look good in a cape and knickers Too (if I have my eyes shut )

Popcorn - I've never had one but I think they just physically push the baby round from outside your bump . I'm sure Scarlet can describe it better though

at Biscuits' super outfit!

Yay for Scarlet! That's fantastic news!! I'm joining Farfalla in No Brooking for a nice natural start to your labour whenever you're ready. Naturally your LO won't change position again - we won't allow it!

Too apart from my family and close friends, I'm not keen on telling all and sundry my cs date. No real reason, it just feels like personal information, it's the same feeling that is why I'm not "out" as pregnant on FB. The guy who texted me this morning for example, he's just a random work colleague, and I wouldn't give him such personal details. On the other hand I'm very close to my Nan and I told her as soon as I had an agreed date - this hasn't stopped her calling me at least twice a day ever since just to make sure I actually answer the phone!

Yay for Maia and her amazing weight gain! Sounds like you're doing an amazing job Too! Glad it's working out with the dog as well. I would loooooooooove to get a dog! Plus I'm intending to go back to work part-time next year, so once we move to a bigger house I'm super tempted to get a dog then. (In reality I probably won't because it's likely I'll have to return to work full-time in the not-too-distant future unless DH finally gets a well-paying job )

Also, I'm not losing sleep over the injections thing! I hate injections in general and I seriously hope I manage to avoid having them for 6 weeks, but ultimately it wouldn't change my mind about having the cs. I only mentioned them in response to Dream's situation.

Farfalla I'm totally with you on the NOT COMPLAINING dilemma. (Well, actually, a lot of my posts on here could be interpreted as "complaining" but I like to think of them as voicing strong emotions. Ahem.) Seriously though, it's hard when you feel like crap, but you're still so grateful to be expecting a baby! I've been trying to separate the pg from the baby in my mind. The pg is something my DH and I planned, and therefore I brought all the pg pain and suffering on myself and have only myself to blame. Whereas the baby is this wonderful (and completely separate) gift which will be dropped off by the stork on the 25th I've had to ask my mw to stop saying "it'll all be worth it when the baby is here" though, because I think it's such a negative association linking the baby with the SPD.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/1446178-Safe-place-to-whinge-about-being-massively-pregnant-Anyone-asking-havent-you-had-that-baby-yet-will-be-shot-at-dawn

Yay Scarlet!

Evening all. Firstly, I'm in awe of Dream and Biscuits, a solid well done to the both of you. Glad the turning worked Scarlett, was it painful? I've heard it can be a bit like a doctor giving you a Chinese burn on the bump. Waves to every one else.

So I've got a bit of news today, so thought I'd post. Went to the Dr to register the pg and see what they said. As I'd like an early scan, I asked about eptopic risks after abdominal surgery. She was relaxed, I was relaxed and I left.
2 hours later I got a phone call saying I must come in for an emergency blood test (that she should have done at the earlier appointment) that it must be today and couldn't be tomorrow morning and must be before 3pm. Dr had checked with the Early Pg Support unit and they'd told her I had to have my Hcg tested today and Friday to get the levels and the rate of change to monitor my risk of eptopic. So they're all taking it alot more seriously than I was expecting them too. Little bit more worried now, as no-one tried to reassure me my risk was low.

The good side is that I could have a scan as early as next week if my levels come back high enough, if not they'll keep taking blood until it reaches the magic number, or until the rate of change (or lack of) makes them worry. I'm sure everything will be fine right?

stacks take it as a positive thing, that they want to look after you! Maybe they shouldn't have worded it in such an 'emergency' way but I am sure it will be fine as you are a No brooker!
too how did your dog take to new baby in the house? I have a small dog who is very protective of me, any tips for stopping him feeling usurped by new member of the family ! He is 6 next month.

I agree with Wants - better they get it checked out so they can put your mind at rest.

And as you say now it's a matter for rooming there will be no problem whatsoever and you'll get a nice early scan as well.

Did you get the blood test done in time? When do you have to go back for the next one? I can't remember if you already said?

Brooking not rooming

I've got time to post properly now.

Popcorn ECV stands for External Cephalic Version. It's a procedure to change the baby's position usually from breech to headown but can sometimes also work when a baby is lying transverse (across-ways). A consultant uses their hands on your skin and sort of lifts the baby by it's bottom and encourages it to kick it's way round so it ends up head down.

I'd say it was uncomfortable more than painful although it was a bit chinese burn like at one point stacks, but I was quite relaxed about it. It can become painful if you're feeling tense. I was hooked up to a monitor for a good 45 minutes before it started to check the baby's heartrate and movements. It was so nice to be able to lie on a bed which I could adjust with a control, I got so comfortable I was almost asleep by the time we were ready to start. The consultant then came with a scanner to double check the baby's position and locate the unbilical cord and placenta. The actual process worked quite easily thankfully and the baby didn't seem to mind being moved at all.

I was then monitored for another 2 hours to make sure there was no bleeding, discomfort to the baby and that the placenta was still ok.

jen I think because the scan confirmed the position as being the same as the previous 2 scans, they discounted my MW's theory that the baby was an unstable lie, hence no great rush to induce. It was my MW yesterday who said they may induce if successful because of the baby seemingly being unstable. As it stands they have no apparent reason to think that the baby will wriggle back. They're also basing this theory on my history with DS who was breech and then changed to head down at 38 weeks on his own and didn't wriggle back. That said, they are going to keep an eye on the baby's position just in case and I will be going back next week to double check. In the meantime if my waters go I've been advised not to hang around and go straight to hospital for them to check the position.

Scream sorry I didn't get chance to answer your questions earlier. I'm really happy with the outcome as I did want to avoid a CS if possible, but I admit to feeling a little disappointed that I could now be pg for nearly another 3 weeks! My aches and pains are getting worse by the day.

Fab news re Maia's weight gain Too, that's absolutely brilliant.

Stacks any extra attention you get can only be a good thing. Try not to read too much into it, they're covering their own backs as much as doing what's best for you and the baby.

Thanks again for thinking of me today, there's got to be something in all this positive thinking malarkey.

What does it feel like when the baby engages? I've had a very full feeling down below today and wondered if it could be that.

Stacks, am Brooking that there is nothing wrong and the HCG levels behave just as they ought.

Wants, dog blotted his copybook on the first day home - Maia whimpered, so he jumped on the sofa (luckily landing on my legs, not on my tummy), and got hold of the foot of her babygro in his teeth. He was bundled off in a hurry with much shouting and so he got a fright. He then proceeded to whine and run around the room and do his scared bark whenever she cried after that, or else try to sniff at her. In hindsight, we should have been much calmer but not let him approach her at all, I think - maybe have had someone watching him and making sure he couldn't jump up. A dog behaviourist told us not to shout at him, but to give him treats and make him concentrate on doing tricks for the treat whenever she cried, so he associated the cry with good things. That did work, but you need someone else to do it - it's not something you can do while feeding/changing the baby. Our dog is a rescue dog and I think he was scared he would be kicked out to make room for the baby. He's much calmer now - time has worked wonders for his stress levels! So, I don't think we handled it particularly well, but all's well that ends well.