October 2011 Baby Bus... PART 4

[happymummytobe]

A new thread for the bus!

Hello to all the newcomers.

BB3 you're allowed to moan, and admit you're struggling. I'm completely in awe of anyone who has twins. I've a couple of friends with twins, and one with triplets and they just astound me. I'm struggling now, in pain constantly (have been for weeks though with the SPD) and this week also out of breath... even from talking... but I'm a chatterbox :o But then I think of my friends and shut up.

The top things I'm looking forward to are:

1. Cider.
2. Nice cheeses.
3. Pain free hips and back. (I hope)
4. Not waddling.
5. Having more than a handful of clothes that fit me!
6. Being able to pick DD up and give her a great big cuddle... actually being allowed to pick anything up without getting told off...or it hurting.

We're still having name disagreements here. I think we're settled on a girls name, but like sassy it's a name we Like, not Love.
Still no clue on boys names. DH says he does keep trying but can't think of anything... and he still hates the name I love.
I keep hoping that if it is a boy he'll just relent, and I'll get my way. I've talked his family round to it though. They hated it when I first mentioned it 4 years ago. :o

We seem to be doing ok on the name front, but the list changes every week, so there's a danger we will pick a name when he is born, then decide we don't like it again a week later - my pregnancy seems to have turned us both completely flakey about these things! I think it's the feeling that choosing a name is a big responsibility which scares us a bit (of all the things to be scared by - we're bringing a HUMAN into the world and we're worried about choosing the wrong name!)

Penelope Your name situation sounds very complicated - what do you think you will do? Is your sister likely to have another baby? It's such a hard one. I'd be very tempted to just use the name, but then I really wouldn't want to upset my sister. Keep us posted!

I'm with you all on the list of things to look forward to :)
Sleeping on my back, sitting without feeling like I've been kicked in the bits, caffeine, wine, bloody steak and not needing to wee every 5 minutes are at the top of my list for now!

Morning ladies (well it feels like afternoon here, have been up with DS since 3.30!!!)

Hey Crazy and Dribble - sorry about your platelet worries, hopefully they can monitor them and you will still get the birth you want crazy.

I'm not sure you can ever be ready for LO's arrivals - I am torn between just wanting them here and then the fear of what it's going to be like with three children under the age of 2.5! We've just finished a big build project at home and boy am I glad not to have builders around and need to be decorating every spare second (saying that I did take the nursery wallpaper down yesterday and that will be going back up today!) - feel for you crazy but hey when it's all done you will have a lovely new kitchen for when LO arrives - in my last pregnancy I decided to rip out my bathroom on maternity leave which started off my labour so I had my family desperately trying to fit a new bathroom when I got home with DS - not to be recommended let me tell you. Poor DH spent every evening after work tiling rather than spending time with DS and I! .

Was DH suitably ashamed that he made his pregnant wife sleep on the air bed? I'd have milked that with DH for ages!!!

Cheshire Porgey might just have a boney bum - twin one has an incredibly hard rump end compared to twin two so everyone always thinks it's head unti the scan proves otherwise! But if (s)he has turned, there are exercises you can do to help them turn I think - my sister did them and her DD turned in about a week.

Don't even get me started on prams and furniture - why are the instructions never clear? and the pictures just show arrows and A, B's and C's!! And the blinking allen keys they give you are always too big to do complete turns so you are there twisting them 45 degrees over and over again!!!

Penelope why not speak to your sister and say that you know she didn't use it as her first choice last time so would she be ok if you used it as you and DH love it. If she is uncomfortable perhaps best choose another but she might be really fine with it - as there is no guarantee she will have another boy and I was dead set on a girls name for DS which I adored, not even contemplating it for this one if there is a girl in there as it doesn't feel right so even if she does, it may not be used again. Anyway, if you are getting on well at the mo, just ask, at least you will know either way. I've stolen my sisters name for a girl this time and she is fine with it (although I chickened out and made mum tell her!!!

sassy I've said it before but I love Esme and Nathaniel so I hope DH changes his mind!! We may have made progress on the boy name front 0 I THINK we have one that we both like - it's something we compromised on and technically made up but then we both seem to like it - well I really like it for a traditionally Turkish sounding name and DH likes it enough to put it on the list although not as much as his first one which I have COMPLETELY vetoed!! So if we have a boy and a girl I think we might be ok, two girls we are sorted ten times over and two boys we might be back to world war three! I am a firm believer that babies suit certain names so I really hope if we have a boy it suits this name otherwise we are screwed!

Well done on starting the hospital bag!

You made me laugh with the get the baby out mantra! . I had three milestones for this pregnancy: 1. To get past the bank holiday weekend (so far every baby born in this generation of the family as been born on a bank holiday weekend at some point. 2. To get to 34 weeks (today) so the babies lungs are (theoretically at least) strong enough to survive without steroids or too much help. And 3. To get to september so that the babies are in the next school year. So I am two down and one to go (Thursday). After that it is game on and operation get the babies out might commence once I am on mat leave next week and 35 weeks.

Thanks bilblio - When DH sees your LO I am pretty sure he will cave a bit on names (or in our case I caved!).

Have another scan tomorrow to check growth so am going to try and get an idea of how big these LOs are then (so far they have refused to even give me an idea).

Ooh more for the list.

• Being able to snuggle on the sofa with DH / DS and actually fit comfortably!
• ooooh heels! Shame we are going into winter..
• Clothes (yay) I was tempted to get my pre-pregnancy jeans out of the loft yesterday but I thought I would wait until my CS scar has healed a bit before I start trying to squeeze into them (who am I kidding it will be at least three months!!!)
• Being able to fit my wedding ring back on my finger (I can get it on but getting it off at the end of the day is painful!!)
• Not feeling like you are being checked on and watched for every twinge!

Right I have to get off the computer and leave the room (DH is eating crunchy nut cornflakes for breakfast and the crunching is just about tipping me over the edge!!!! )

Anyone else got ms back - just had horrible memories of the first four months and hoping it's a one day thing!!!

yep to MS being back, has mostly been nausea this time although i was quite sick on saturday morning.

can't eat proper food in the evening anymore, can just about stomach cereal or toast. poor DH is cooking and eating alone again.

really don't think he can go through another pregnancy lol he has offered to get the snip at least once a week since i fell preg!

now less than 2 weeks till i finish for ML, and going to tackle baby's room then

Edward as horrid as it sounds, I'm glad I am not the only one!!! LOL at your DH. I don't think I can physically cope with another pregnancy after this one. I keep thinking maybe one more and then I just think another 9 months of this and what if I have twins again!! And that changes my mind - although we'll see in a couple of years - although even DH who wants 6 babies said the other night that I wasn't getting pregnant again as I was keeping him awake with my chatter!!! I wish I'd have recorded just in case I need it!

Twin names must be hard! I did speak to my sister about using her fave name which is also my fave name, she got really upset and asked me not to use it. I am looking for others, but am loathe to use a name that's not my fave as you are right, she may change her mind or may never have a son. Sigh.

I did the tour of the maternity suite where I will give birth this evening, and am now excited and terrified in equal measure!

Do any of you know anything about the dangers of forceps? Someone in my antenatal class was talking about how bad they are but I don't really know.

Penelope Yeah it is, we have to prepare two boys names, two girls names that go together in one of the three combinations - and all that go with DS's name.

I don't know much about forceps, although I know if the baby needed them I'd rather they used them to get him or her out than not - from what I've read, if the procedure is done properly the risks are minimal - it's only temporary things like bruising and scratching but I don't know enough to say confidently. I guess there is a risk with all labour if something goes wrong but hopefully your LO will come out with no trouble whatsoever xx

Sorry your sister isn't happy, I guess you have to go with your gut on it, make a list of names you like and when LO comes out, decide which one is best for them!

I haven't done a tour of the hospital yet - I'm better in situations I don't try and control so feel like I will be better to just go with what is happening rather than question where and why etc (especially as these could come at any time, could be emergency c-section, could be leisurely stroll in on an agreed date) .

Hi Penelope I had your name situation with my DSis when I was pg with DD - didn't know the flavour, and our favourite boy's name was also my DSis' fave boy's name, not that I knew until she got upset and asked me not to use it. I'm afraid my view was that she was being unreasonable - she wasn't pg, I was, she may never even have a boy, so why should I not use the only name DH and I agreed on in case one day she had a boy?! Your DSis may never have a boy and use the name, IMO she can't bagsy it - but maybe I'm just a tough old b*tch

We have not done anything to prepare for newbaby apart from get DD's new bedroom ready so that newbaby can have the nursery. I'm only 32w though and fully expect to go overdue so I reckon I've still got 9 or 10 weeks to go

Re breastfeeding - it doesn't necessarily hurt. I didn't have any problems feeding DD and nor did I have any real pain. A slightly cracked nipple on about day 4, which healed in a day or two, and plain sailing from then on. I just assumed it would be fine and it was

I'm looking forward to not having to get up four or five times in the night to wee although of course there'll be the small matter of a baby feeding through the night. And getting comfortable and sleeping on my front. And having a proper drink (by which I mean several drinks!), but that won't be for a while due to BF. But mainly I am scared stiff at the thought of coping with a newborn and a toddler I think I'd take the discomforts of pregnancy over my intense fear of how I'll cope with two!

Hi all

BB3 I think you are amazing carrying twins and having another child to look after. I think you are more than entitled to put your feet up at this stage and to feel a bit fed up with the less fun parts of pregnancy!

Penelope I had forceps with DS1 at the end, apparently he had his hand up by his face so was in an awkward position. The forceps helped deliver his head. I had to have an episiotomy but had an epidural so didn't feel anything (just heard the snipping - sorry if TMI!) and by that stage I had pushed for an hour and just wanted him out and didn't really care how. From what I remember the forceps were used for maybe 2-3 contractions and out he came. I think there are different kinds of forceps. There are others that used to be used to turn a baby higher up which I think are now not thought of as being particularly safe but I may be wrong.

I have kind of started my hospital bag - well, bought some maternity pads and newborn nappies so I guess that's something. I find I am getting easily irritated by little things when I'm out like people getting in my way when shopping, must be the hormones! I don't remember getting like this when expecting ds1.

hope everyone is having a good day!

Hi all, and welcome newbies!
Penguin: huge respect on PhD whilst up-duffed - thanks all for support on my bloody MA!
BB3 loving the list: lying on front/back def top of mine too!
And all those of you having last minute wibbles, second that: had big hormonal cry on DH on Friday, and he was brill: wrote some really helpful lists of things we need to do, and volunteered himself to do 90% of it, leaving only nice stuff for me.Then we went and did lovely baby/hospital bag shop on Sat am, and feel a bit calmer. He also told me lots of lovely things about how much he is looking forward to us being a family...he is being a star at the moment!
Am counting down to mat leave: going to submit MA stuff tonight, then a big meeting tomorrow, but after that can def start winding down, and am working from home on Thurs for a bit of a rest. Hope all the rest of you are getting lots of down time and support from everyone?
xx

hi everyone

Crazy and Dribble i also have low platlets. they were 119 when i was last tested 6 weeks ago. i have another blood test next week. no-one seemed that worried. they said if they go below 80 (or is it 90?) then things are more of a concern, but really they aren't a realy problem until they get below 50. the only thing that may happen is that we can't use the birthing centre. hopefully that wont happen though

i have started getting things out on our spare bed for the hospital bag but have quite a way to go until it is actully packed. i am 35w today and my dh keeps saying i need to get the bag sorted as it may happen anytime. i think i will be late, but it is based on nothing other than most 1st timers seem to.

only this week and next week working then i leave - WOO HOO. so excited to get out of this place!

i am sorry to those of you having a tough time, i am still feeling good. DIYing at the weekend. i know the tiredness, insomnia, uncomfortableness, constant weeing etc will happen eventually. hopefully i can ecape it until i finish work.

x

Evening everyone :)

We packed some of our hospital bag at the weekend but have now just booted it back under the bed as going to wait until after Thursday to see what our scan says about the placenta and Porgey's position. DH says there is no point me buying Yankee Candles because if we end up in hospital they are never going to let me use them in a million years

Hope you're right BB3 and it does just have a boney bum, our Hypno teacher said apparently when you are swimming if you keep diving down that can help flip them too. I'm impressed with the milestones you have ticked off so far :)

Pene I was going to say exactly what Scones said, how on earth can someone (who is not even pregnant) bagsey a name. What if she has no further children/child of the opposite sex, I know she is your Sister I think she is being unreasonable. Even if she did have another child by then she might have changed her mind and gone off the name - how mad would you be then!? This is probably also a classic example of why names should never be discussed, better to just announce afterwards "and he's called Farqhar".

Emma my attempt at DIY-ing yesterday was not so good. I agreed to hang the nursery curtains, forgot to tie the opposite end of the cord and when I had finished trying to pull the curtain tighter realised all the cord had come out. Attempt the second window and did it too tight so it wouldn't even open. Abandoned the project and DH finished both windows (including re-threading) whilst I watched conspiracy theories about 9/11 :)

Thanks wheels I have spent all day on the sofa (mostly feeling rough) with my legs up. Well done on hospital bag starting - all progress is progress . I am getting irritated by little things in and out, like people randomly stopping in front of you, my mother wearing flip flops round the house - it's chuffing cold outside (flip, flop, flip, flop constantly), people rattling keys, heavy breathing, no decent magazines in hospital / doctors waiting rooms!! I'm not a very patient person full stop but it's particularly bad this pregnancy.

rebel I cannot wait to sleep on my front I don't care if my boobs leak all over the bed like they did last time, it will be worth it Good luck with MA and meeting - i can't wait for mat leave on Friday! Bless DH for being lovely! My DH is just a work constantly but then I shouldn't complain he's doing it so that he can relax a bit work wise when these LOs come (well for a week at least!).

cheshire LOL at yankee candles! you could still buy them as they will last ages so even if you don't use them in the hospital, the house will smell lovely for ages when you get home! Thanks if all is well tomorrow the next milestone is 36 weeks when I will get my CS date (am hoping it will be 36+3 rather than 37+3 as by that point I will be literally on the edge!!!). I am equally as talented with you at curtains, I did manage to pull the strings and ruffle them for our bedroom curtains but then hung them up by the strings rather than the curtain bit in the middle so they are all pulling away - I should change them (it's been three months) but it is such a faff!!!

Evening all!
Thanks for starting the 'things to look forward to' lists BB3! They have cheered me up no end - it can be hard to focus on the positives at this stage instead of the negatives, but you've all made me think - mine definitely include sleeping on my front, having a glass of wine in the evening (after BF!) and having more clothes to choose from.

Penelope - I had a forceps delivery with my ds, and there was no damage to him (although I was torn a lot!) but I know that the danger is more related to the old type (as mentioned by someone else) and by them being used by someone inexperienced. I was terrified to find out afterwards that they try and avoid them in preterm labour (which my ds was) as it can cause a bleed in the brain as the skull is so soft early on, and they did scan my son's head to make sure there was no bleed afterwards. Ventouse seems to be favoured now but not for preemies as their skin is too delicate.
And I second those who've said you should use the name anyway, unless your sister is likely to disown you! Better to have a name you like and a sister that sulks for a few weeks then gets over it, than a name you don't love.

Have also been very hormonal and 'wibbly' this week, and ferociously nesting, finishing some painting and packing 'The Bag'. Hoping to get past my son's birthday next week then this one can come when it likes!

Thanks for all the advice on the name - you are all right, I am going to use the name if I want to. At least my Mum has said that she'd support me in doing so, and that's what's most important for me. It's such an annoying issue to have at this stage in pregnancy though when I am not at my most rational.

Interesting about the forceps - I don't have a strong opinion but it's nice to hear about stories about them being OK, after all the anecdotal evidence in my antenatal class was more against them. And you are right, am sure it's the massive old type that were a danger.

Another thing for me to add to the can't wait to do when baby is out list - eat sushi. Mmmmm. Sushi. 8 months has been a long time to go without it!

Hey y'all !

p.s. 36+6
p.p.s. am considering cheese and wine party at hospital, all post-baby by then most welcome :o

Hi all

yes BB3 those things would irritate me no end at the moment for no discernible reason. I think maybe I am getting impatient for this baby to arrive so I can do normal things with ds without feeling like a beached whale. I may have to have a few sips of red wine with dinner tonight to chill out a bit!

I have loads of DIY/odd jobs to do around the house to occupy my mind anyway - we have been in our house for 4 years and inherited loads of crap DIY attempts that we have gradually put right. My favourite was tiles on top of wallpaper in the kitchen. I also have a load of furniture to make from ikea so should just get on with that really to distract myself.

Watched a programme that was on last night about a lady tracing her children from her donor eggs, was sad and happy - made me blub lots so I think my hormones are all over the place at the mo. I think DH would probably prefer some tears to irritability and nagging - my nesting is partly being done via delegation at the mo ;)

Penelope I think there are some kinds of sushi you can have in pregnancy, I went to yo sushi a few months ago and ate loads - I love sushi. And I think you should go ahead with your baby name choice - it is hard enough to come up with one in the first place without someone saying they have first dibs on it - sounds a bit selfish of your sister IMO.

Hope everyone is having a good day :)

mmmm, cheese and wine....mmmmmm
penelope seconding everyone on the name thing, but agree is horrid to have to deal with it when irrational/hormonal. Def go with the name you love, especially for all the reasons cheshire (who appears to be alarmingly reasonable at the moment: where are all your hormones, mine have made me mental?!) gave. My SIL still hasn't named her new DS which is making me increasingly nervous that they will choose the name DH and I love....even so, I haven't bagsied it from them because that's not fair, so I think your DS is being v unreasonable.
BB3 you are doing so unbelievably well, and I think you are completely entitled to find lots of things very irritating: can't imagine how you must be feeling, but lots more feet-up days must be in order!
Meeting this afternoon, then a nice relaxing day at home tomorrow waiting for buggy and cot to arrive and doing a few bits more shopping/packing hospital bag (all of which I think counts as "working from home")...can't wait!
xx

rebel, yes, I've been "working from home" like you recently. But I'm back in the office today and my God, it hurts. Quite literally too.

It's nice to see everyone doing well. Penelope, good luck with the name conundrum. I seem to have the baby's hospital bag ready, and most of mine sorted out (but not packed). I'm 35 weeks today. Where has the time gone?

Is anyone going from WOOOOOHOOOO! excitement to ARRRRGGGH! utter terror within the space of seconds every single day? It's doing my head in.

By the way, is anyone hiring a TENS machine? Where did you go?

penelope glad you have decided on the name - hopefully your DSis will be fine when it all happens.

Hi tiddleypompom good luck with the birth - I think some of us will be sneaking into September too so nice to mix up the threads a bit!

Wheels I am getting VERY impatient. Oooh crap DIY - our old house had 8 layers of wallpaper each one painted on top of and three layers of carpet - was hideous!! I have two drawers to make for the nursery today which I will probably do tonight if DS decides to go to bed at a reasonable time!

cheshire so far on my working from home days I have managed to get to my hospital appointments, buy buggies, take deliveries, make biscuits and all sorts - I find I am much more productive in work at home so don't feel bad about doing personal things too. Although not these last two days - both tomorrow and Friday will be spent doing the bare minimum possible.

mpops 35 weeks - wow! I seem to be stuck on 'just get them out' at the moment but remember that feeling well with DS. Had a growth scan this morning, both babies fine although now have completely changed position AGAIN both transverse breech and twin one who has always been the leading twin is now at the top of my tummy with placenta still wedged down the bottom so they really do not want to come out naturally and are getting themselves tied up in knots trying to avoid it. However saw registrar afterwards who said all looks fine and see you at 36 weeks and we'll book you in for CS between 37 & 38 weeks - I would just like to point out I am not staying pregnancy for another 4 weeks so if they are not out by 36 weeks I am going all out to get them out - there will be a pineapple tree in my fridge and daily trampoline sessions with DS .

mpops we aren't because of the CS but I used one last time and it was pointless because I used it too late. Biggest advice I could give is as soon as you have contractions / pain of any kind get the blinking thing on so it has some effect! I think you can get them from your hospital.

Thanks BB3 (wow, twins) - all welcome over on Sept thread, where things are hotting up and poo is the discussion of the day (again). The race is on and queue-jumping expected (though very frowned upon by those with babies who appear to have no intention whatsoever to move anytime soon)...
There is also an ante-natal Sept baby thread all set up and ready for you, in case you need it.
Enjoy last days at work, nesting, braxton hicks, cake and vivid dreams!

I got a tens from eBay the machine itself is used but came with new pads was only £12.75 :-) and I can sell it on.
Didn't try it with DS but going to give it a go.