October 2011 Baby Bus... PART 4

[happymummytobe]

A new thread for the bus!

My MIL is like that, even with Nigel. However with DD they absolutely adore her. My pg once again is a undiscussed matter.

penguin - hope they manage to sort out your bloods, you must feel like a pin cushion!

Congrats Mrsengel - sounds like you had a lovely day.

I am currently fuming after a horrible appt with a condescending consultant. Having seen one at 28 weeks who was happy to let me have a csection after my last birth and told me to see her at 34 weeks ish to confirm and discuss more fully, I went in today to find her clinic covered by this man who refused to acknowledge any of my concerns, told me my last experience was not really bad, and that there was no reason for a section. I left sobbing, as he refused to listen or acknowledge that psychological reasons might be as important as physical ones for having a cs.
My dh was fuming when I arrived home still sobbing, and has rung to get the original consultant to call us back in the hope that she will let me have a cs.

Sorry for long rant, but am so cross that having managed to mentally prepare for a cs (hardly the easy option!) I have been made to feel that prioritising my mental health is being weak and pathetic by some man who had no idea how ill I was last time. Grr.

cheeky sorry to hear about you're crap doc appt, I think I would complain about that, if something is causing you concerns he should be reassuring you not patronising you.
Hope ur regular doc can sort it for u.

cheeky i wouldnt get too worried just yet. i cant tell you how many times i saw a consultant throughout my twin pregnancy- throw in diabetes appointments and two hospital admissions as well- and i cottoned on pretty quickly that they all have their own opinions and theories that mean bugger all if you never see them again. i swear to god i never ever saw the same consultant twice and i only saw my designated consultant once. next time you go you might get a different one who will tell you something completely different. but if you do have a designated consultant who has agreed to a c section, then i would tell anyone else who tries to tell you different that they know nothing about you or your pregnancies, they are not your consultant and therefore cant over ride what you have already agreed- arrogant pig.
i had one- really good looking with all the midwives swooning- put my back up straight away. came in, said so everything is fine then? no problems. in the manner of someone who wanted me to say yes its fine, so he could tick all the boxes and get to lunch. i said no its not fine, i was kept in overnight 2 days ago because my blood sugar was too low. he was like oh right, ok then. and then proceeded to ask me question after question all of which the answers were in my notes! it drives me mad, so i asked him what was the point of having notes if everytime you see a new doctor they ask you the same questions and i also told him that every doctor tells me we'll do this and that at your next appointment and then i dont see them agsin and the next doctor doesnt mention it. he mumbled something about how they try their best.
it was his own fault, breezing in after id been waiting nearly 2 hours and thinking i would be too mesmorised by his looks! i was tired, hungry, massive, hot and majorly pissed off! ha.
anyway i digress, i would definately get dh to speak to your regularly consultant. i had it in my notes from the beginning that i was having a elective c section. have you checked to see if it is in yours?

We had our second Midwife class last night, I was prepared for it this week so even though it was about "complications" it didn't seem as bad as last week.

One of my favourites parts was:-

MW - Has anyone been to the Physio class about their breathing?
Class - everyone shook head
MW - Well it's on a Wednesday afternoon, at the hospital, once a month

MW then moved on to her next point.

My conclusion, fat use that is, if they are anything like us nobody has ever mentioned it a breathing class and surely once a month is hard to get on to (unless nobody knows about it and Physio just does bugger all).

The only breathing anyone will know about is from TV I now conclude,

Thanks Edward and sassy - I'm sure it will all be ok in the end, but i have been awake all night worrying - the worse thing is that he has now made me question my decision and contemplate a natural delivery even though I know that if anything goes wrong I would not cope at all mentally. Sadly the ELCS is not in my notes - just the fact that I have mentioned it. She asked me if I wanted it written in as a final decision last time or if I'd like the chance to discuss it more fully with her and I said I would. Which is what was supposed to happen yesterday but she wasn't there.

chesire - I've never heard of physio breathing classes in antenatal care! I imagine it could be useful, but i'm sure the breathing part will come naturally in the end.

I just wanted to share with you ladies the consultant's advice on sleep. I went to see him yesterday as my sleep has been getting worse and worse and last pg, from about 35w I was awake most nights until 4/5am. I can't face going through that again although it looks like I may have to He said there is no way he can give any medication for sleep i.e. sedatives and that I should try a glass of wine each night instead... So there you go ladies, doctor's orders, get pouring!

Oh and I did have a glass of wine last night but it made no blimmin' difference as I thought it wouldn't. Got about 4 hours sleep. WHY is the body so cruel that when you need sleep the most you can't sleep?!

cheeky it is your body and your birth and I'm sure if you hold firm, you can have the birth you want. Good luck. I hope you get to speak to your original consultant again.

Put your foot down Cheeky that's what I say! :)

I empathise with you on the lack of sleep Scones, we are not the only ones either from the posts the other week about weeing and sleeping (or not). Some days I think I might just give up on it all together the amount of tossing and turning and dragging a heavy bump over every night.

Hi Everyone! I'm new to MumsNet and due to have my 1st bub in early october.....eek!

Been having a quick look through the recent posts.....very jealous of those of you allowed to have home births - I always wanted a water birth at home but the MW tells me I have to have a hospital birth due to possible complications. Ho hum - will try to see the positives!

Congratulations mrsengel! And hello to the new ladies :) I've tried to read all the bits of the thread that I missed, but it's been a while - I'm trying not to faff so much at work as I've pulled forward my maternity leave and, hurrah, finally finish on the 30th September. Which still feels like a long time away, especially as I'm knackered all the time. Was it you, Cheshire, who was talking about aching hips on your left side at night? I'm seriously considering splurging £45 on a fanceh pillow just to stop hurting.

On which topic, my uni mate, who's due about three weeks before me, is super-high-achieving anyway, but this FB update made me want to leap through the laptop screen and punch her: "Having spent the last few days camping, cliff and boulder beach hiking, lowering myself down through holes to see lake caves, snorkelling over shipwrecks, and swimming in cold, clear azure lake water, I am now convinced that there is nothing that a pregnant woman can't do in her third trimester...except get a good night's sleep." I can't even bear to stand up all the way into town on the train, let alone do effing climbing and effing snorkelling!

Penguin: if the need for chocolate gets desperate, Montezuma's dark chocolate buttons are amazing and they do mail order. Or have a look for Fry's Chocolate Creams at the corner shop (or Peppermint/Orange Cream, too) - they're vegan and I've been scarfing back at least one a day for the last couple of months. (I won't be measuring my bump... )

Well DH and I had a lovely night out tonight for anniversary, went out for dinner then ceilidh, then took a walk through Glasgow Philadelphia I'm not usually so easily amused but find it really cool that we'll see our city in cinema in a yr or 2 :-)

BabCNesbitt your friend sounds like a twat. I hate this competitive business, altnough have noticed it swings both ways - those in the "I am so amazing I can still do everything" camp, and those in the "my pregnancy is so much harder than yours" camp. It annoys me.

Anyway, your friend might find things will turn for her very quickly anyway. 3 weeks ago I was still walking an hour a day no problems. Yesterday I was so tired I caught a bus 300 metres as walking seemed too hard and today making the bed was enough for me in terms of physical activity. I can't beleive I could still walk that far three weeks ago, i feel like I've gone downhill really quickly!

Rab at your friends insensivity. I did a lot and until right near the end including hiking and climbing but I never showed off nor advertised that fact, just assumed that I was one of the lucky ones (although I use pretty useless in the 1T

Plus I remember being able to climb, cycle and abseil but not run for the bus

Edward glad you had a lovely evening

Finally got the anti-D yesterday and iron is 12.5 sticks that in MILs face regarding my veganism. It was in my arse which was the first time I had it there, plus the same side as my trapped nerve which I then aggravated by going on a long walk. Last night was err interesting.

They stuck the anti-D in your arse?! I got given the injection in my upper arm! Poor you, that doesn't sound fun :(

Yeah, it's been kind of weird (read: annoying) being up the duff at the same time as her - I'm not keen on going on about it, whereas she's been providing FB with an update on every stage and change. Which is fair enough, it's the first time for both of us, and it's exciting, but - gah! (I think there may be unresolved issues underlying this irritation, though. )

Edward, I've only now understood why all my friends from school have been making comments on FB about Glasgowdelphia and hanging out with Brad this week - I'm a bit slow!

It really annoys me when people post every pregnancy stage/news/photos/scans on FB. Something I found particularly hard after my mc last year. I know someone who announced their pregnancy and it later emerged she was only about 6 weeks. What is it with people who think that nothing happens unless it's announced on FB?

I'm with you BabC and Cheshire on the aching hips at night. And legs. And knees. Trying so bad to keep to my left side but I'm naturally a back-sleeper. And I've got a fancy pillow-thing. It's comfy but doesn't stop the aching. I guess it will only get worse. Well that's something to look forward to!

I've got a 39in bump and put on 1st 5lb so far. Can't believe that with all the cakes I've been eating. Loads of people comment that I've got a really small bump. Only 5 weeks left at work, yeah! They've finally got round to advertising for my cover.

I've noticed my energy levels drop as well recently. I guess this is the end of the 'bloom'. Mostly due to not sleeping. Also get really vivid dreams. Last night I dreamt I had twin girls (I'm due a singular boy!).

Yep totally agree about the continuous FB updates. I've a friend who has an 18 month old and is pregnant again. I swear all I've ready for the past 2+ years has been either complaints about pregnancy, or boasting about her DC.
I probably wouldn't mind so much except she was the one who when I was pregnant said "Do you think when you're no longer pregnant you'll find something else to talk about!"
I pointed out to her that I'd love to talk about something different, but it's all anyone ever asked me about, particularly her! And that when you're knackered and being kicked in the ribs constantly it's sort of difficult to think of much else.

I've mentioned it on FB, and we did "announce it" after 12 weeks, most people knew anyway but we have friends all over the world. I can't have made that big a deal of it though as some people only realised last month.

Is anyone else craving a normal conversation? I have a friend who is really not bothered about children, she likes the ones she knows but she's not keen on the idea of having them herself. We had a great conversation last weekend about cars... while our other halves talked babies. :o

fb status updates can be very dangerous! i am most certainly not able to do anything active anymore! i suddenly feel like i'm carrying around very heavy baby!

i bought bedding for the crib and the cot today, and got a set for each that includes a bumper. i knew that there were some safety concerns so started googling...never a good idea! there seem to be very different opinions, but i couldn't find anything on the info section of mumsnet, or on nhs or other reliable sources that mention bumpers for or against. where did the safety info that everyone seems to talk about on forums come from?

just want to do what's best for the baby, why does it have to be so complicated? :s

I've brought a baby thing!

new moses basket and a stand. It was just as cheap to get a new complete basket as it was to get new bedding.

DH got the keys to our place and we move in next weekend. Am going to try ringing up a GP in the week to see if I can start registering or a provisional MW appointment. Will get to see DH after not seeing him for two weeks tomorrow, then just another week to go.

Arse is much better today . Have had the jab three times before now by three different people and it's always been in the thigh, even when they had to hunt for a non bruised bit after my fall.

sorry monkey don't know any sources of info. My stance on bedding in to keep it very simple because I'm cheap, sheet then either swaddle or sleeping bag. I do remember finding it all terribly confusing though.

Went to have a bath and there is no hot water and my sister has stolen my razor.

bab and tally yes 'twas me with the achy left hip as I have been so obsessed about sleeping on my left side all the time, it just meant that my hip was achy and I never got proper sleep! I asked the mw about it on Wednesday and she said there is nothing wrong really with sleeping on your right, it's just your back you must not sleep on, so I have turned to my right a bit more and also on my front - hopefully because it's sort of at any angle I am not squashing porgy. I still do not get a full nights sleep though, I wonder if those days are gone forever now what with getting up for sees and then because I will try to bf porgy, I feel like I have not had a full nights sleep this year:(

I still feel worried about the left side thing though because it was a study I read in the paper that said you should try it in the last few months, I think there is lots of conflicting information out there about baby stuff.

My new thing is random cramp in my calf in the middle of the night, anyone else getting a rock hard calf for no reason? I have never had this before so a assuming it's baby related.

monkey I am sure I read something about the bumpers not being used at first because you should have air flow straight through the cot, although I am sure someone will let you know. penguin seems very knowledgeable

I'm another one with achey hips. I used to sleep either mostly on my front, but the bump won't allow that now, or on my back. I try to sleep on my left side, because I know I should, but wake up on my back. If I sleep on my right I tend to stay there... so long as I'm alone in bed anyway... DH has the right hand side of the bed and I find it really difficult to sleep facing him. I don't like being breathed on, so if he turns into the middle of the bed, I have to turn around.... and I end up on my back again!
DD is away at her Grandma's this weekend so DH is in her bed and I'm getting some half decent sleep. :o

Cheshire My Midwife during my last pregnancy told me to drink more milk to stop leg cramps (and to save my teeth falling out.) At least a pint a day. I use it as a great excuse to have a milkshake every day (I don't like plain milk.) I'll also often have cereal for breakfast.
I very rarely get leg cramps. If I have had them it's almost always when we've been away for a couple of days and I've not had much milk.
Some people say it could be lack of potassium, so eat more bananas. I can't stand bananas though so I'm sticking with my milkshakes. :o
Also if you feel the need to stretch your legs at night don't point your toes down, if I start doing that I can feel my calf starting to cramp. Point them up instead. It still stretches your leg but for some reason doesn't bring on cramp.

Penguin I think women like your friend are few and far between... and she'll probably hit a wall and feel like the rest of us soon. I personally feel so big and stretched at the moment that even standing up straight is uncomfortable... sitting and lying aren't much better either.

Oh god, yes to the leg cramps! I wonder if that's because we're all religiously trying to sleep on one bloody side all night?!

My midwife told me to sleep with my feet elevated on a pillow to stop the leg cramps - have had quite a few. It's not that comfy though, what wiith all the othe pillows and all.

On the FB updates thing, my step sister is pregnant with DD2 and announced what baby's name will be last week on FB, the full name and all. Fair enough if she wants to, but as she is only 20 weeks was a bit . Now I wonder if they'll change their minds?

Morning all. Not posting any wedding pics as I don't want to out myself (and we are picking them up next week!).

I know what you mean about fb. have tried to be as discrete as possible as I know how upset I was last year ttc and after a mc when people were posting every detail of their bump (before it was even a bump!). We did however reveal all when I was about 20w, but only because DH proposed and couldn't keep THAT to ourselves. Then everyone wanted to know when/where we were getting married (and then why they weren't invited!) so we let the cat out of the bag. Everyone who was really important knew already and like bilbio we have friends all over the world (and we live abroad) so it wasn't practical to just tell people when we see them.

Am about the moses basket Penguin I've been looking longinly at them. they're so pretty, but we've decided we don't really need one as we have lovely travel pram with a detachable crib that we can use for the first few weeks/months in our room. Might have to just "forget" about that when I'm on ML though!

Bilblio - weird what you said about milk and leg cramps. The ONLY craving that I have is for milk. We're getting through 4 times as much every week as we did a few months ago!

Milk is a very good craving in pregnancy. The baby needs calcium and if it can't get it from what you're eating/drinking it'll take it from your teeth and bones. So osteo-arthritis when you're older and weak teeth and lots of fillings before then. The old wives tale a tooth for every child isn't that far wrong.

My friend had horrendous morning sickness all through her pregnancy and even when it eased she couldn't stomach any dairy. Until that point she had perfect teeth, she's now got a mouth full of fillings.

I thankfully still don't have any. They're all worn down and sensitive becuase I grind them in my sleep when I'm stressed, but no holes :o

I really wanted a moses basket last time too, but we're the same, we have a carrycot so used that.
In hindsight I'm quite glad, my loft if jam packed and a moses basket would just be something else to find room for.
I keep seeing them come up on Freegle and I'm tempted to ask, but I resist,

Morning ladies - ooh lots of posts to catch up on.

Penguin how annoying about the bloods - any closer to getting sorted? I get my anti-D in the arm. Yay for new moses basket!

Edward glad you had a good anniversary.

babyC Facebook is dangerous. I am a bit cautious about all social media things - have a profile and do post but don't very often post things about myself but there are two things that would have annoyed me about that post.

One it's clearly a boast - bully for her being able to do all those things but she doesn't have to brag about them or be so insensitive. I hope she comes down with a big bump (literally) when the tiredness kicks in. Yesterday walking from the car park to the hospital assessment unit yesterday almost KILLED me. It hurts to walk any length or lay the wrong way. I ran for the bus on Wednesday and that was enough physical activity for a week (and I bloody well missed it!). If your friend was so clever she would know that every pregnancy is different, every woman is different and as one of the girls said, every day is different and it's better not to brag than end up looking stupid. I have a fb friend that is the opposite, posts constantly about pregnancy and new baby but it's ALWAYS negative - hates everything, feeding, changing etc and I want to shake her and say 'You wanted this and complained when it wasn't happening and now you are complaining that it is!!!' Anyway, neither is particularly nice to read!

Secondly I think there are ways to discuss your pregnancy online and not everyone needs daily updates on bump size, movements and just how AMAZING everything is!!!!

Bilblio - your friend did not say that about pregnancy talk

I am also getting lots of leg cramps and cravings for milk but my legs feel really heavy and painful most of the day! I sleep on whatever side I can get to sleep on!!

Been an eventful week in baby world for us. All fine in the scan, Friday no movement at all from twin one (with the placenta problem), in for monitoring, both heartbeats fine but still no external feeling from twin one. In on Saturday 3 hours of monitoring, couldn't get both babies to trace together - both individually but not together, know both babies are fine but spent 3 hours in there trying to get a good reading. Now have to go and see my registrar on Tuesday to figure out why the movements have decreased on one baby but not the other). I know they are fine. I know that, but everyday I don't feel that twin I have to go up and be monitored just to be on the safe side. I know it's better to be cautious but it takes such a long time each time I am monitored just for them to say, all fine but come back tomorrow again!

Anyway, I shouldn't complain!

Hope everyone is enjoying a lazy sunday!