We are all jolly well going to have a perfectly uneventful pregnancy and pain free birth and will brook no argument at all

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In a moment bravery here is the anti-natal thread for all those continuing to Brook No Argument into pregnancy and beyond.

So raise your fists to the sky and sing loud for there is no turning back now! We shall all stand firm and prevail with joy in our hearts as all our pregnancies will be simply blooming perfect!

Hurrah! and more Hurrah! :o

Or even heartbeat!

Ah Pomme how lovely re the heartbeat! Can't wait to get to that stage :) Still ages to go though - have to get past Friday first!

Excellent news re the heartbeat Pomme! That's wonderful. Hope everything else went well for your appt as well.

I'm also v relieved that I'm not the only one who ever wondered if this could be a phantom pg! Fingers crossed Saturday will offer me some reassurance, as your scans have done for you lovely ladies!

I was having another look at the stats thread, and I've noticed the only other person in London is Calypso. She's also down as having a scan tom! Has anyone seen her in a while?

Hello all

I'm much happier now DD is in bed (she did NOT go back to sleep...), she has been exhausting today. If she'd just learn to fall over not like a plank but like a normal baby I could have 2 seconds to myself. However, she doesn't, so I can't...

Lovely about the heartbeat pomme, i used to love hearing it with DD. always made me . Are you 15 or 16 weeks now? Or was it you who's 23? must go and check that stats thread...

Yes, I am looking at rear facing seats to take DD to age 4 or 5 without going forward facing. (grumble grumble). They totally limit your front passenger (or driver) space and are freaking HUGE!! But miles, miles safer, not just a little bit. This is one of the stats from the www.rearfacing.co.uk website (which is independent and DOES NOT sell carseats) and btw, children in Sweden all RF til 4.

"Children in Sweden are extremely unlikely to die in car accidents. Between July 2006 and November 2007 not a single child under the age of 6 years old was killed in a car crash in Sweden (Source: VTI Sweden). According to the AA?s website, 205 children are injured in car crashes in the UK every year and 21 are killed.

With rearfacing group 1 car seats this statistic could change."

As far as I know, only one child ever has ever died in a RF in a crash and that was listed as an 'exceptional situation'. It was the parents that jumped off Beachy Head together when their son died with his body in a rucksack that got to me though- he'd broken his neck 2 or 3 years before aged 18 or 20 months or so in a (correctly adjusted, correctly fitted) FF carseat, was on a ventilator and paralysed from the neck down, so sad, so scary. Hence the bloody awful RF for us till DD is 4 (unless DH freaks at changing car and tries to make me turn her at 2.5 to make way for number 2 to go into her current seat. I will resist. Strongly)
Anyway, enough about carseats. I'm SICK of them!!!!

Hello love!! did your due date get changed then?

oh, and i'm also worried that I'm ill not pg. I don't have sore boobs, I'm just sick sometimes, but wih all the vomiting going around (DH normally totally resistant) i'm very worried I'll have a scan and not be pg... Add me to the Phantom Pg Paranoia list please!!!

oh, and scarlet, they've only been sold near us in last 18 months, so pretty sure you couldn't have got DS one too

On a completely different topic briefly, why is the new series of celebrity Masterchef on at lunchtime, not in the evening?

I just added my stats!! I seem to be the only one with three scans to date lol I am very lucky for my 13 weeks and 3 whole days :D sickness isnt to bad as long as I take the pills but my boobs are killing me!
The hospital told me to stop the folic acid as it makes people sick and started me on thiamine which I believe is vit b. I have consultant appointment on 28th sept and midwife 28th oct and my 20 week scan on 26th oct I cant believe how fast its going it still doesnt feel real.

Has any one else had weird dreams? I keep dreaming about trifle and jelly

Dream just had a quick glance at rearfacing car seats i would love one but it would never fit in my car :(

hope everyone else is feeling ok and welcome to the newbies :)

mememummy - I had a dream about a week ago - just after implantation - about having twins! I found a website on pregnancy dreams which said dreaming of twins was all about you meeting the other 'part' of you - the baby growing inside you... but I'm not entirely convinced! Other than that I've been sleeping pretty badly, so haven't had many vivid, memorable dreams...

All this talk of researching car seats is scary! I guess because this is DC#1 for me, I'm allowed to be a little clueless. Have had a quick browse, but not doing anything more until the 12wk scan..

I also have a bit of phantom pg paranoia! And I'm not even seeing the doctor til a week Friday, let alone a midwife... this huge gulf of time where you just have symptoms and no way of telling what's going on inside is really tricksy.

oh and i have picked my push chair lol...

Oooh which pushchair Meme?

Yes, Dream, my due date got brought forward four days at my scan. Not sure they can be right as would mean baby was conceived before I ovulated but the midwife was adamant. Hope it doesn't mean I end up being induced earlier than necessary...

All these carseats and prams are overwhelming, aren't they?

Ha, Wikipedia to the rescue! phantom pg So basically, no, you can't pass a pee stick until you are actually pg! (That's a slightly confused sentence, but you know what I mean!)

Pomme, yay for the heartbeat!

Dream, eek, that story about Beachy Head is so sad! Am now beginning to worry about baby bean growing out of first car seat...jumping the gun slightly?

Meme, I've had 2 scans and the booking scan will be my third, so I'm catching you up!

my midwife forgot to calculate my edd at the appointment, will be interesting to see what's said when my scan finally rolls around. FF showed me oving on cd 19 and reckons may 1st, which is 3 or 4 days later than calculator thingies using lmp.

not even a sniff of an appointment letter.

i had a poo day at work too. 2hrs in i discovered i had extra work to do which took about an hour and resulted in a bit of rushing about i could have done without. i am working with actual bunsen burners in the lab this week, slightly worried i will get distracted/fall asleep and set fire to the lab. the work is fairly dull so this is not that unlikely.

i am so happy to finally be pg after 11 months SWI effort, that i am a bit disgruntled to be feeling so pathetic! I've just got no energy at all and am still queasy and hungrier than a very hungry thing. the highlight of my evening was finding a chocolate biscuit in my big work coat that's been hanging up for weeks!

sorry, moan over. thanks for putting up with it!

its going to be the oyster I have a tiny car (peugeot107) and struggle to fit an umbrella fold buggy in but the oyster fits it has some great mumsnet and which? reports. I also have a silvercross sleepover that fits in my car if i have no children :/ but its great for walking places and perfect for a winter baby so thrilled now... what colour oyster do I get?

sickness isnt to bad got GP appointment today for repeat prescription so i will live to tell another tale :)

anyway must dash-school run to do lol

Hello everyone! I've just realised I haven't been on for days and you lot don't half chat :)

Congrats on the heartbeat Pomme! I already can't wait for my next midwife appointment on the 3rd October to hear the heartbeat.

meme, I had to laugh at the image of you with buggy in the car but no space for the matching child :o

14 weeks today so officially finished the 1st trimester! Hurrah! :o

I just have to ask, is anyone else getting irrationally annoyed at everyone and everything at the moment? I think I am getting all hormonal and my already limited supplies of diplomacy and tact are vanashing at an alarming rate. Plus work makes me want to cry for no real reason. Ho hum, must think calming thoughts.

Thanks all! Am 15 weeks but yes it was me who once wrote I was 23 weeks (instead of 13 )!

meme - I always wished I'd chosen an oyster with dd - we had a mamas and papas one and then a bugaboo bee. I've got an icandy pear off ebay in my garage now for when there are two!

jaggy - on first read I thought you'd written 'I had a poo at work too'. I was shocked at how 'sharey' we were all getting. Then I just realised I was being ridiculous.

Still wondering about a private scan before 20 weeks to find out gender over here... naughty pomme...

He he Pomme - I had to read that sentence from Jaggy twice too as I thought also thought she said she'd had a poo - how funny

Hello all
Just a quickie as been so busy no time to read/post. In process of selling our house and it's suddenly all moving rather quickly after months of nothing! Think the next few months may be a bit stressful!
Great news about heartbeat pomme.
I've got my scan in a few hours as hospital rang to change appt from Thursday. Going on my own as DH in work and friend sitting for DS (he hated seeing me scanned the first time so can't risk another meltdown!). Just hope all is well otherwise will be a bit grim on my own

Laters ladies - hiding - I'm with you on feeling cross with everyone and everything at the mo too!

I probably would tell you about poo though....

Hope scan is good Deny :)

Oh I took such a huff when I found the extra work to do last night - I must have looked so stupid banging cupboard doors to get the glassware out. Hormones eh!

Good luck with the scan Deny. I am sure it will be fine :)

Good luck with the scan Deny - keeping fingers crossed and waiting to hear how it goes - take it easy xx

FX, Deny.

Hiding, we have the same EDD but I thought I wasn't 14 weeks until tomorrow! Am I further on than I thought? Got v confused by date being moved at scan.

Good luck Deny! I'm sure everything will be fine, sorry your DH is missing out tho. Let us know how it goes!

I'm sorry, I'm going to say something a little mean now, but please don't think I'm a mean person! It's just the hormones! On facebook several people I used to know have had babies recently, so they're flooding facebook with photos, fine. It's just that the babies aren't cute! They're all between 2 weeks and 2 months old and they're just kinda freaky looking in different ways! There, I shouldn't have said that but I've been desperate to admit these evil thoughts to someone for ages!! I'm a bad person

I'm now wondering how I'll feel if my little bean turns out to be freaky looking too! Obviously I just want the bean to be healthy, that's paramount, but I think having an ugly baby might have an emotional impact as well

I'm not stopping, but am just peeking in through the windows and spying on you all, just hoping that I can join you in a few weeks if this morning's BFP sticks.

Hope everyone's scans go well.