We are all jolly well going to have a perfectly uneventful pregnancy and pain free birth and will brook no argument at all

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In a moment bravery here is the anti-natal thread for all those continuing to Brook No Argument into pregnancy and beyond.

So raise your fists to the sky and sing loud for there is no turning back now! We shall all stand firm and prevail with joy in our hearts as all our pregnancies will be simply blooming perfect!

Hurrah! and more Hurrah! :o

oh, pomme, thats exciting!!! How many weeks are you?

I'm still paranoid although maybe feeling queasy this morning. I can't tell if I give myself symptoms by thinking about it too much if you know what I mean. I hope not, but the texture of fruit was making me feel sick yesterday. That'll be all it is seeing as I'm Brooking No Argument on the morning sickness and all

Hello jaggy!! Glad the CBD behaved

Right. Bugger it.

I have decided to just brook no argument with everything, so I stopped procrastinating and made an appointment with the midwife for next week. The receptionist (I got the nice cheery one, yay!) did offer me tomorrow.

I do have to organise going in to work late, should be ok - hope my boss doesn't remember from 2 years ago that midwife appointments are always on a Wednesday morning!!

Still pondering when to tell our family. I spilled the beans at about 6 weeks last time, but not sure if there's much point waiting another couple of weeks if I'm going to tell them anyway. Everyone else can just wait till I have to tell my boss!

Unless I fail at fake drinking at the work do next week, which I accepted the invitation to about a week before my BFP. It was the worst possible timing you know

The timing just couldn't be worse...
Always said with a belly rub don't forget Jaggy!!

I thought I was 11 plus 4(LMP) dream but have been dated today as 12 plus 2. Always nice to be further on. Nuchal fold was really small and I discovered I am actually an inch taller than I thought! Yay!

You are taller and pregnanter (yes, totally a word) than you thought - good show pomme!

Hurrah for Jaggy's confirmed pregnancy and entrance into the vomitorium.

Also Hurrah for Pomme and her scan plus extra tallness :o

I have randomly started retching whenever I brush my teeth which is kind of odd and yukky. Otherwise and generally strarting to slowly feel increasingly like an actual human being who can look alive and alert at least occasionally.

Only 2 weeks until my scan! Yay!

Nice brooking no argument jaggy making your appointment. I have my first one on Tuesday next week, when's yours?

Fantastic news pomme re your due date moving forward a week or so, seems like a bonus to lose a week during pregnancy.

I've been feeling sick all day today. I thought I was actually going to be sick earlier this morning when I was getting DS his breakfast. My boobs are still tender and my skin soreness has completely disappeared

I took another wee sample to my GP and using the same sample at home I got the best BFP yet, so I don't think they should need another one after this.

I visited my friend and her newborn baby boy this afternoon. I really, really wanted to tell her my news but managed to hold back. I feel even more excited now.

jaggy, marvellous Brooking.

pomme, losing a pregnant week is a massive bonus. Well done you I'm confused about how you know you're taller, I thought it was your baby who got scanned...?!? Though an extra inch is always a bonus (ask any bloke)

scarlet, nothing like a bit of reassuring nausea. I have bee feeling a bit queasy today. I know it won't get worse than this due to my brooking no argument on the morning sickness and all.... I have decided to tell all those i'd tell if I miscarry anyway- which is my parents, sister, and a couple of close friends. Anyone I can see myself cringing and dreading telling if i did mc i will be keeping in the dark til after my scan.

My midwife appointment is for when we're back from our holiday, 13th sept, so i'll be 8.5 weeks pregnant by then. Perfect timing for booking me in for my scan i say.

and oooh, jaggy, how i'm chuckling at you sober on your night out!!! Is your friend who knows going? On my hen party, I was pg but nobody but my sister and one friend knew. They had to take one for the team, and whenever I was given a drink, I'd slowly, slowly sip it, they'd have to down theirs mostly, then we'd swap!!!! They got mighty pissed for me . It worked. How about a bit of that???

that is the plan dream. DH and my two friends that know will be there. DH was a bit drunk at Christmas last pg as we did the old glass swap trick at the in-laws. FIL tops up wine a lot, and MIL has champagne for any occasion! i may tell one more workmate as i told her last time and i think I'd feel bad if the other 2 know IYSWIM. also she can help drink too! i will have a team of drinky helpers. it's a proper dinner dance thing btw, there will be managers galore there as well. at least i won't be full of wine and making an arse of myself.

my appointment is Wednesday scarlet. might get it over with and tell the family wed night. I'll either cave and tell them soon anyway, or be spotted not drinking MIL's champagne on DS's birthday in a few weeks. yes, even toddler birthdays require the bubbly.

have been weeing a lot today, still sore boobs on and off and low down achy feelings. must be a lot of effort to get comfy in there!

exciting to hear about scans coming up!

Loving the drinking plans! I'd never thought if people drinking for me - just got them to back up my weak excuses.

Dream - they measured and weighed me for their records today. Not talking about the weight one - oops on the pork pies!!

Morning ladies,

Apologies for the radio silence here - my sis is staying and being very hard work so not much chance for MNing - boo! Have had a read through this morning to try and catch up though.

Jaggy good luck on the 'getting-your-friends-very-very-drunk-on-your-behalf' plan .

Scarlet and Dream good news on getting the m/w appts booked in - it's nice every time there is a little step forward . And I am sure they just buggered up with your wee sample Scarlet - when do you get the results back from your very pg one you did yesterday? Odd that your gp has to test it? Well actually when I was first pg I went to the docs and he was like 'err well done, what do you want me to do? You just need to book in with m/w' (but in a nice way) as I never thought they would just take my word for it. But since then they seem perfectly prepared to take my word for it. To be honest, if I hadn't had my early scan I would have still been frightened that I had been so desperate to get pg that I had just imagined it and I'd get arrested for wasting NHS time or something . and the worst thing then would have been wasting ttc time on a phantom pg!

Incidentally has anyone ever used this emoticon?

Anyway time is d...r...a...g...g...i...n...g here. Still only 9 weeks . Seems like an age since the scan a week ago. I mentioned to DH that I was 9 weeks today and he said 'oh isn't it whizzing by?' errr, not really! I seem to have been 8 weeks forever. I think 7-8 weeks went quite quickly as I had the scan to look forward to but next scan is still over 3 weeks away so seems like ages. Very few symptoms to speak of so feel a bit worried about that - am either justifiably worried or am wasting an opportunity to just enjoy being nausea etc free .

Hiding glad you're starting to feel better .

Pomme - Taller and pregnanter (I agree it's a word Jaggy ) - what a result!

Apologies for anything else I've missed - am on iPad so can't go back and check.

Who are the other new arrivals anticipated from the ttc thread? We have Scarlet, Dream and Jaggy already (yay!) but who are the other PSEPP expected to whizz through on the electric cart soon? Scream is one and I've totally forgotten all the other names (obv pg brain )

The other two were Meconium and MrsB from the recent splurge of bfps.

Ahem, er, hi ladies? It feels a little early to be bothering you lovely pee stick endorsed people in here which is why I've been mainly hiding out on the ttc thread My period isn't even late yet (due Friday), so I was thinking I shouldn't really come through the shiny electric doors until then...

On the other hand my first BFP confirmation was exactly a week ago now, and my booking in appointment is actually scheduled for Friday plus I have a disturbingly large collection of pee sticks from my daily poas obsession so I think there really might be a little bean in there! Now I need to start brooking no argument over the uneventfulness of this pregnancy! No horrible surprises thank you very much. Perfectly and utterly safe, healthy and uneventful!

I've been lurking for a while now though so I'd just like to say a HUGE well done to Pomme! Taller and pregnanter!!! That's excellent work! Scarlet I'm glad your skin is feeling better, and you should get no brooking to make sure your nausea doesn't get any worse! Dream can demonstrate :)

Biscuits! My old cycle buddy! I really am only one cycle behind you! Very exciting!! I totally agree with the worry about the phantom pg which is why I have such a stupidly large pee stick collection I'm actually hoping the doc will double check on Friday. I'll also be booking my 8 week scan asap if all goes well over the weekend! I need more proof!!

Dream Scarlet and Jaggy, everyone else (apart from the mighty Aubers?!?!) is on a stats thread right here. So I'm going to pop over and add myself quietly in, coming?

Morning all

Hi Scream

Good to hear that you're finally starting to believe you're actually pg. Will you have to have your 8 week scan privately? Where I live you only get one at 8 weeks if you've had previous MCs, or if you're experiencing MC symptoms.

Thanks for pointing out the stats thread. I feel it's a little early for me to add my details on there, but if all is still well when I get to 8 weeks and a scan has proved it I will add myself on then if that's ok.

Have you had any symptoms yet Scream? My boobs seem to have settled down now and I wouldn't really know any different if it weren't for my BFP and an increase in CM.

Argh! MN just wiped my whole post by going offline!

Scarlet I was just saying that my one (?!) achey boob is fine now, and I also have a huge increase in CM! Glad its not just me! Other than that it's just tiredness and cramps for me. Trying not to freak out at the cramps - do you have these too?

I'll be having the 8 week scan privately I expect, I think it costs about £100 near me. Will you be having one as well, or waiting until the 12 week one?

Finally I wanted to ask: does this whole process get any easier / less scary the second time around!?!

I hope I'll be able to have a scan at 8 weeks on the NHS Scream. My GP said he could only refer me for one if I started having problems but he suspects the midwife might refer me for one given my previous 2 MCs and the anxiety I'm now suffering because of them. If she doesn't then we'll be paying for one too. I think they're about £100 for us too. There's no way I can wait until 12 weeks. I had a scan at 8 weeks with DS, that was because I was under gynae at the hospital due to fertility investigations.

Weird how it's worked out for me really. It took me an age to get pg with DS but since we started ttc DC2 I've been pg 3 times in less than a year! So I would say that I am definitely more scared this time. When I was having DS, it took so long to conceive it didn't really enter my head that I could MC after all that. I naively thought we'd had our run of bad luck and that now I was finally pregnant that was the end of the worry. Thankfully it was all ok. The second time I got pg it happened very quickly and I took it for granted completely that because DS had been fine that one would be too. It wasn't the case for that one, or the next one. This time as much as I'm trying to relax and hope for the best, every time I go to the toilet I'm dreading what I might see, which wasn't what I was like at all the first time or the second.

Cramps. I did have a lot of them the week leading up to my BFP. Don't forget I didn't test until the day before AF so this is probably where you are now. I also had the on and off during last week but this week they seem to have eased off.

Thanks all!

scream - second timer here too and so far no. I think I have been more worried about something happened this time. Looking after a toddler in the early weeks is pretty horrendous too.

I'm feeling better now though and am back to enjoying dd and life (not sex however still though - poor dh). Must be that extra inch!

Time is dragging for me too biscuits. Is that the pom bear emoticon you used?

Hmm. I meant my extra inch in height must be helping me feel more normal. In retrospect it seems badly placed next to the sex reference

Scarlet I'm sorry to hear it's all been so stressful for you. I hope your mw understands and refers you for the scan. We're all brooking no argument for a healthy uneventful pg for you as well! How far along are you now do you think?

Pomme it is a little scary to think the second time around will be harder than this! I hope your LO doesn't tire you out too much. It'll all be worth it in the end to have two DC fairly close in age and hopefully therefore close to each other. For work/career reasons I think I'll have to have at least 4 years between my DC, which is a bit longer than I'd ideally like but I'm hoping it'll work out.

at Pomme for the inch reference! I wasn't going to mention it... but I'm glad for the clarification! Lol!

I think it's entirely possible that gaining an inch in height would make you feel better - it would for me!

I've just got different worries tbh scream. ( I am just brooking no argument that there will be a baby, can't really do anything about it so that's how it;s workign for me. )

i am v excited at the idea of a new wee person, but am more concerned about how DS will cope with not being the most important person in the world (I reckon that's his opinion )

I had a emcs last time, so I'd quite like to get this one out the right exit, I was a bit traumatised and diappointed last time. Not so worried about feeding or general care as I'll be more confident, although it will be strange having a tiny person again, DS is nearly 2 stone now!

Better do some work. Didn't get to bake yesterday, so had to buy cakes for today, the shame.

hello preggos

I feel rough. My Brooking No Argument about the no vomiting isn't going so well so far. All I can say is HEURGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I've started The Puking. Bile before breakfast. Lots of the hideous-tasting yellow stuff. Poor DD cried as she was scared of all the retching. And the worst of it is actually throwing up only gives me about 5 min releif from the nausea.

I'm totally brooking no argument though. NO MORE!!!! Maybe I just need to more visualisation?

and to make it worse, DD's failsafe morning nap isn't happening. She's lying in her cot calling and singing now. I'm desperate for a sit down. Sigh.

scream, i'm more worried about somethign going wrong this time too, as the age gap and not being back at work too long once i go back is very important to me. I too have had a early mc though so the possibility of things going wrong is very clear to me too. Not so bad as scarlet though, i mc'ed first time at about 5, 5.5 weeks. And now i'm puking i am a bit reassured. Once I got past 30 weeks and thought phew, if the baby arrives now it should be ok, i relaxed and was absolutely fine. Was mostly fine from 27 weeks...

I will not be having an early scan. I wouldn't get referred and there's no way DH would agree to a private scan. Plus as the advice is avoid if unnecessary I'd wonder if I'd do more harm than good... Have a friend with a horrendous experience I won't share. In fact 2.

Right, off to get that bad not-napping baby up...

I've had four scans so far at 12 weeks (3 as per nhs instructions and 1 private one) and I'm worried now dream! I haven't heard anything bad about early scans before.

Oh god the non napping when you really NEED it drives me up the wall. Turns me into a gibbering wreck.

Bad news on the sickness . We have some wristbands here somewhere I think?

I haven't heard anything bad about early scans either Dream! If it's okay with everyone else here (please say something if you'd rather not) I would really like to find out what you're referring to Dream?