Jue in June -Waters breaking everywhere and not a drop of Gaviscon to drink...

[NurseSunshine]

Here's another :)

Yep Kara I'm canesten-ing already and I noticed in the shower tonight the tell-tale red shininess appearing so it wouldn't have been long before the stabbing pain started

Oh no Sasa :(

nurse good luck for tomorrow :) You will be fine and I'm very you'll have your LO in your arms this time tomorrow evening (or at the very latest the next evening :)). Very excited for you :)

Oh no sasa :(

kara send me some of your relaxed BFing vibes please!!

Well, my mum finally came out with it. She texted me and asked me directly if she could be at the birth because it will be such a momentous and wonderful moment and she couldn't bear not to be there for it, especially as I am her only daughter, and that she would 'try to understand my reasons' if I said no. Kind of glad she actually said it straight instead of persevering with all the weird emotional manoeuvring, and glad she did it by text so I had time to respond without getting emotional. I tried to reassure her that we really want her involved, we will keep her updated throughout everything, and that as soon as we're settled back in at home we'll let her know and she can come straight away, but that we feel quite protective about it as our special moment as a new family and really want that time to ourselves. She said she is 'deeply sorry' she can't be there but that she respects our decision, and then I said I loved her and she said she loved me too. It really upset me because I hate to make her feel pushed out or to feel like I'm upsetting her, but we have been very clear all the way along and it really is how I want it. DH was very sweet - I know deep down he wants it to just be us (especially as my mum won't be able to help but take control of things if she's there) but he also stopped me before I replied and made me take a minute to think if I would want her there, and told me he would support me in whatever would make most happy. I think the outcome is the best one all round, but I just hope I haven't upset my mum now.

Right, that's my last mum post! sasa, DH had a less sweet moment when I told him what your SIL had done, and what I said you should do with your finger. He suggested an alternative place you might stick it

coaaf you need to add yourself to the list of us lingerers :)

LOL TTL

Hello! I haven't read posts yet, but just dropping in to say Ewan James was born 9.01 am Sat 18th weighing 7lb 0.5 oz-we had a water birth at a midwife led unit that really helped since he was back to back. We stayed in 24 hours because of my waters breaking a few days previously, came home for one night and were then admitted to Bath for him to go on the UV blanket for jaundice. We finally came home last night. I'm very much in love!

Well we are just starting the night shift which seems to be continuous feeding through to 5 am with 5 min snatches of sleep-v frustrating since I have to wake him to feed him through the day!!!

I'm looking forward to catching up on all the posts and hoping everyone is well xxx

Congrats Sarah and 8rd

thanks for the BF tips - boobs still huge, heavy & sore but starting to get the hang of feeding with them. Got some intensive help from a very bossy but extremely competent midwife today, which helped. We're still in hospital so making the most of all the expertise on tap before we (one day, some day, soon, please) go home. Turned out paediatrician had miscalculated his dates and Rafael's antibiotics course isn't finished yet . last dose tomorrow morning then we're out of here!

Congrats Sarah - I'm starting the night shift as well - it generally consists of about 2 or 3 hours of screaming. I'm about 20 mins into it and DH is taking a short turn before he starts snoring away and it's just me and the baby.

Morning Sasa hope the night is not too bad. I'd just got back to sleep after dd decided it was party time when we had a huge thunderstorm which put the electricity out! re the thrush situation though.

TTL glad things are resolved finally with your Mum.

8rd and Sarah congratulations on your new arrivals.

Citizen hope you get home today.

Kara am also finding bf much easier this time round. Massaging in the shower is also helpful for engorgement.

Moomin 5oz still within normal range. Dd also quite sicky whereas ds never was but his weight gain wasn't very good. It always looks a lot more than it actually is though. As clarkiee says I'd speak to the hcw if you are still worried. 2 friends of mine have had cranial osteopathy for their los and both saw quick improvements. One for colick and the other for a difficult delivery causing mishapen head.

TTL - stick to your guns and don't feel guilty. It is absolutely essential that during labour you have who you want there and that you feel in control and if your mum won't facilitate that then she needs to not be there! You will be going through a major life changing event which will be a huge shock to you both physically and emotionally (in good ways and bad) so you have every right to be a bit selfish in this regard.
Am sending you good bfing vibes! I am still getting some pain on latching on side (dd's favourite side ) but I know from bfing DS it does get better and being a fundementally lazy person I find bfing so much less of a faff than bottle feeding. I also find people generally don't notice or don't care if I bfed in public, you only ever hear the odd bad experience and never of the countless times mums do NIP without anyone noticing. Pity because I would LOVE an excuse to chew someone out
But if for whatever reason it doesn't work for you, don't beat yourself up about it!! Formula is a perfectly adequate form of nutritions and babies generally thrive happily on it - as long you ensure you carefully follow the instructions on how to make it up.

Sarah - congratulations on the safe arrival of your little boy! Hope his jaundice is sorted now!

Citizen - good to hear you have had some good advice, although at the paed getting dates wrong! Hope you will be out of hospital soon!

Merlion - oh no! How long was the leccy off for? Sending lots of sleepy night time baby vibes to you and the other night wakey babies! DD is now waking every 3-4 hours now on the night but bizarrely I am still waking up before her or being woken by DS getting in our bed. Poor little love he is feeling somewhat pushed out :(

Morning all. I see I've been dropped of the malingerers list, so here it is updated, again.

Nursesunshine EDD 16/6 (DC1) Induction on 23/6
Jasmine EDD 16/6 (DC1) currently avoiding all medical types, waters gone 23/6
PerpetualProvocateur EDD 17/6 (First baby), still waiting, home water birth
COAAF EDD 18/6 (DC2), Hoping for intervention & stress free hosp birth.
Curiouselle 21/6 (DC1) hoping for MLU
Neenewps EDD 22/6 (DC1) hoping for water birth in MLU
LisasCat, EDD 23/6 (DD 4), waiting (im)patiently, hoping for MLU
Supersunnyday EDD 24/6 (DC1) hoping for water birth on MLU
Takethatlady, EDD 26/6 (DC1), hoping for MLU, show 22/6
MummyOfPrawn, EDD 27/6
Milliemuffin 30/6 (DC3) home water birth

Right posting before I lose it, again. Then to catch up on rest of thread and figure out how to unhide thread

Massive congrats to sarah :)

citizen glad you are getting the hang of bfing - amazing and generous tips from kara too :) Thank you! And thank you kara for telling me to stick to my guns :)

sasa and merlion I hope you got some sleep last night.

PS - good luck today nurse!!!

Congratulations Sarah on Ewans safe arrival. Glad someone gave birth on my due date

TLL hurray for resolving things with your Mum. It's tough trying to put your foot down with out hurting someones feelings or compromising your own feelings.

Hope you sort the thrush out quick Sasa. I hate to think how many other little kids your highly educated Dr sister has been infecting with her grubby fingers!

Yep it was definately SPD yesterday. A very late night bath worked wonders.

Hope all goes well for you today Nurse. Roll on being itch free and all babied up

Sorry it was just SPD confessions - maybe it's getting worse because the baby is coming? :) at 'malingerers' btw

So it's not over with my mum. Her best friend's daughter, who had her baby two days ago (and is a really lovely girl), has clearly been tasked with texting me and making it very clear how important it was that her mum was there because she's been there and done it, while the men are a bit clueless. She's done it in as sweet a way as possible, but honestly, it's getting ridiculous now.

Thanks TTL

Stick to your guns over your Mother. If you give into her you'll end up resenting her (and going on about it forever after, driving your daughter nuts listening to it, yes Mum I'm looking at you....). It sounds like you've being completely resaonable with your Mum and she's just going to have to suck it up if she doesn't want to damage her relationship with you and your DH.

I'm so lazy these days. I have to go and meet DH in town soon to do the weekly shop. I just hope I'll have time for another muscle relaxing bath between getting home and going to the MW. Really wish we had a car right about now!

That's really annoying, TTL!!! Her mum is not the same as your mum, and that lass probably has a very different relationship with her mum than you do with yours!!

Congratulations 8rd and sarah

kara you would have enjoyed the argument DH had with his brother at the wedding. It was along the lines of 'if you don't like seeing my DS being fed put a blanket over your head' DH was magnificent - I was so proud of him :)

ttl You poor thing. Well done for standing up to her manipulative ways. Perhaps you could swap phones with DH for a while and he can deal with the random texts?! My mum was so over eager when I had our first that she and dad turned up when I was in labour. It was a highly medical one so DH made out it was very serious when the fetal scalp monitor fell off DD's hairy head. That got rid of them pretty quick.

Percy has seen the physio and I am pleased to report that he has positional talipes which is much less serious than club foot and easily treated with exercises. I'm coping on my own, but not doing very much. DS1 is trashing the house unhindered :)

Congratulations Sarah

No news here. Still feel the same as I did last week tbh but I am officially overdue now.

Jasmine thinking of you. Hope you are well on your way onto delivering your little one and your DH can hoist that flag to the top of it's pole very soon

ttl I would be tempted to reply to everything in the message bar anything related to your mum. You have dealt with your Mum and it's not up to this friends daughter to feel the need to comment.

MOSP great news about Percy. I'm so pleased for you.

I'm now wondering if I did the right thing yesterday by refusing a sweep!!!

Congratulations Sarah!

Good luck today Nurse - thinking of you.

TTL, am on your behalf about your mum. This is not what you need right now! I agree that you should stick to your guns.

40+6 today and counting...

coaaf, point taken! Hope you get that muscle-relaxing bath in. Sounds good :) Is internet shopping a possibility for you? I am sooooo with you on the lazy vibe

neenewps that's exactly what I did. She told me to load up on carbs in early labour, so I went on about that and how happy I am for her that her birth had gone well, and tried to ignore (in multiple messages) the rest of it.

motherofsnortpigs that's a good line . Made me chuckle, anyway! I'll keep that one in reserve just in case :)

PS - thanks ladies :) MN is so good for blowing off steam. Hope your house survives the trashing mosn :)

ttl I suspect your relationship with your mother isn't as bad as mine (or you'd have told her to eff the eff off and then eff off some more quite early on, and never mind her feelings - oooh, see how I manage to curb my language around newborn babies!), but I really cannot imagine anything more horrific than having my mother in the deliver room. I felt awkward enough when, having a bath with DD when she was about 2 months old, my mother just walked into the bathroom and sat down next to the bath and started talking to me. She simply doesn't get that I haven't felt comfortable being naked (or in any way vulnerable) around her since I was about 8 years old, and being pregnant or a new mother has not changed that. Plus, the highly charged emotional stress of being in labour is just bound to bring on a whole load of conversations that are much better left under the rug where they've been swept. My baby's head crowning is not the time to get into a big debate over which of us is more responsible for the other's mental health problems and need for anti-depressants!

So I hope I'm not projecting too much when I say that even if your mother is lovely and you otherwise have a great relationship, I think you definitely need some stay strong vibes if she's going to start using 3rd parties like that. I agree with swapping your phone with DH's for a bit and let him field the guilt trips. Or just tell the best friend's daughter that you feel bad for her being used like that, so she can go back to her mum and point out how transparent that little stunt was, and then maybe they'll all feel a bit ashamed before they start coming up with other little tricks.

If jasmine is in the MLU having her baby, I might see her when I go for my MW appointment this afternoon. I'm planning to give the MW free range to do any search and rescue operations she likes down there, if it'll speed things up a bit. Alternatively, we could just go and see if there's a flag been run up a mast in her village. I'm pretty sure it'll be the only house with a flag mast in the vicinity, although you never can be sure in Midsummer!

at 'free range midwives' . Those battery-farmed midwives are just the worst, aren't they?!

Thanks lisa. I do have a good relationship with my mum. She is also controlling, and will never ever see that pulling stunts like this makes me less rather than more inclined to have her involved. I have a similar story re: nakedness. She would never allow us to have a lock on the bathroom door until she met my step-dad when I was nearly 15, and would deliberately burst in at any moment. When I was 12 she caught sight of the fact I had budding nipples and a bit of public hair, and forced me to stand in front of her for a good five minutes while she inspected my body with a fine toothcomb. When I objected, she said she was my mother and it was her right and her duty to keep tabs on my development. She would also deliberately try to catch me and DH at it when we were in our late teens even though I'd been honest with her that I was sleeping with him (twice she succeeded - both times mortifying). About five years ago she asked me if, when I had a baby, she could come because she'd 'never seen it from that end before'. Shudder shudder shudder! I do not want her staring at my fanjo for 24 hours LOL!!!