The Deli gets funky: Ah, PESH it good - P-PESH IT REAL GOOD!

[Scorpette]

This fred ain't for everybody - only the menkul wimminz!

BESH BAYBEES

dontrythisathome, girl born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April.
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8.
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24.
CUNextTuesday, boy, born June 29.
AlpinePony, boy, born 1 July.
Carrots, boy, born July.
IggyPiggy, girl, born July.
Cosmosis, boy, born Sept 5.
Backinthebox, boy, born Sept 7.
Skatergrrrl, girl, born Sept 10.
VAG, boy, born Oct 2.
Silversky, boy, born Nov 1.
SomethingSuitablyWitty, girl born Nov 2.
okiecokie, girl, born Nov 12.
Honeymoo, boy, born Nov 11.
ReginaMonologue, boy, born Nov 13.
Maswera, boy, born Dec 24.
PollyPoo, girl, born Jan 5.
MrsFC, boy, born Jan 7.
ChoChoSan, girl, born 6 Feb.
Ginhag, boy born 11 Feb.
Muser, girl, born 15 Feb.
CluckyKate, boy, born 18 Feb.
Perfect Dromedary, boy, born 23rd February.
Medee, girl, born 26th March.
Casserole, girl born?

UPDIFFED

Scorpette, not top of the list at all, lalala, I can't hear you!, due 18th May.
Laurielou, the unmarried hussy with the "surprise" diff, due 31 May (ish).
Rocketleaf, sprouting out all over the place, due 1st June.
TwinkleToes, supergluing her fanjo shut, due 20 June.
Orchid, hoping for a zen like child, due 1st July.
Ginfox, loving the new mega-boobs, due 12th July.
LadyGoneGaga, No, it's not fucking twins, due 24 July.
Ivegotmrbitey, appears to have eaten posh spice, due 27th July.
Macaroonmum, eating for 7, due Aug 6th.
Owlbooty, suddenly weeble-shaped, due 7th August.
Ocarina, there's a what in there?! due late August.
Mountie, too shy to shine, due Autumn.
Truffkin, growing a padawan, due 17th November.
kat2504, 25 sticks pissed on and counting, due 5th December.

I'm with rockettothestars, she's clearly a lizard.

If it makes you feel better, my mum lives an easy train journey away. In 12 weeks she has been to visit twice. Once after the birth, once a few weeks later. I'm not even sure what her excuse is, whenever I speak to her she's not been doing anything. I know what the problem is really, her dimwit husband who hates the fact she has an actual family and would rather not share her. So she ends up asking his permission to come and visit. Drives me fucking crazy. I could rant some more but probably shouldn't.

I got so annoyed that I actually deleted one of her Facebook comments on a picture of KateBob because I decided she wasn't allowed to be smug about a grandchild she can't be arsed to get on a train to see.

My MIL still can't remember my name. Oh, how we all laugh about that.

In fairness, they do actually seem quite excited about the impending grandchild despite having hundreds of them already, but I think this is mainly because they had given up all hope of their only son ever finding a wife let alone having any kids ever - is there a male equivalent of an ESH? If so I have married one.

Muesli carry on ranting pliz. It is always better to fully vent otherwise head-implosion can occur, v.messy.

Are you laying yet? now? now? how about now?

In my mum's defence, she was going to come and see us this weekend but I put her off due to KateBob being a bit poorly and lacking in sleep, and me not being mentally able to deal with visitors. Hopefully she'll come next weekend.

I feel better but only in a feeling-sorry-for-others way. Muse, your mum's husband sounds delightful Nothing more attractive in a middle-aged/old man than petty possessiveness and insecurity, ffs. It must really cut that she won't just tell him to STFU and come see her GD more often. And Rocket, your Mum was probably just having an off moment but that still doesn't stop it hurting.

MIL is defo a lizard. I mean, it's no skin off my nose if I don't have to deal with them and their odd ways, but it breaks my heart for TYF that they're so indifferent and worry about how it will affect The Lad in the future to have one set of GPs who treat him like the Christ Child (mine) and another set who aren't arsed Well, TYF says they are bothered but his own GPs were hands-off, so they're just being the same. I nod with gritted teeth, whilst seething, cos he won't criticise them. I think FIL would be more 'normal' and see the Lad more often (esp. as he works 3 days a week with TYF, ie nearby), but he leaves all social/family organisation and communication to MIL and if she says they're not going to see The Lad for a few months then he will begrudgingly obey, because he can't be arsed to put the effort in for himself

Me and my brother had the most wonderful, close relationships with all 4 of our grandparents (still do with my lovely Ginger Gran) and I always presumed/dreamed of something that amazing for my own child(ren). Ah well, am sure it will still work out fine.

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Score she is truely a delight! I'm suprised you just haven't told her that she won't see The Lad at all at this rate! Fancy the Chelsea Flow show being more important - gah. I'd be pretty pee'd if my MIL said that to me. They don't always show the most ineterest at the best of times, but at least mine do make an occasional effort.

On the pastel front, we had to take lots of baby blue stuff back when mini O was born. I had warned all my close family etc, but random people also bought stuff who didn't know us that well. I'm sure I spent the first 3 months of his life waiting in queues to take stuff back. Dyeing stuff is a fab idea though .

Truffs hope you're ok and the scan went well?

Rocket I got my usual MW for most of my homebirth, by luck more than by judgement. She stayed with me all day until way past her normal finishing time as she desperately wanted to see the baby and find out the sex! She ended up having to leave because it had turned 8pm and had to put her own children to bed (mini O was born at 9.03pm so she only missed him by an hour). The two MW's that were also there by that point were really very nice too. I wasn't with it all that much by then so it was nice to have had my own MW whilst it was all gearing up and then the two newbies right at the end when I couldn't care less. However, I'm sure whoever had turned up would have been greeted with open arms! In total I had 4 MW's come to the house between 6am and about 11pm at night and we liked all of them. Make sure you have lots of nice treats in for them. The two that came at the end had already worked a full day and then ended up at ours til past 11pm. They were very hungry and grateful for toast, a cuppa etc (and some nice biscuits). Mr O made sure they were looked after and they did really appreciate it.

Waaah - I'm too excited about all this laying talk. Come on you lot!

score if it helps at all, I think your relationship with all 4 of your Gparents is quite unusual. I had always been aware in the difference between my sets of grandparents. Not that they were indifferent in any way but there were definitely different family tensions. I think I picked up on the situation between my Mum and my Nan very early on in contrast to how utterly doting my dads parents were to him and us. I don't think it did us any harm really. Children are very prosaic about things like that so its not likely to affect The Lad much. But yes, v hurtful for TYF although its possible he is resigned to it too, after all he's had to put up with it all his life. :( It probably seems worse to you because it's such a contrast to your own folks.

You are right, pretty sure my mum was having an off moment and just didn't think about what she was saying.

Families eh? Makes you wonder what our ESH children will be moaning about us in 30 years time :o

And yes, where is truffs? I hope this is a no news is good news situation. :S

Morning Haglets!

No laying here, just loads of sleeping . Apparently I kicked Mr Loz off the sofa on Sat noon so I could stretch out & have a lovely sleep. Whoops.

Had the hossie tour on Fri, made it a bit more real. There were 3 differs on the tour, other 2 were consultant led, so it was nice to be able to see that ward too, should I need it. Its only been open 6 weeks so was lovely & shiny. But the MLU is fantabulous. 7 double rooms, so chances are high of having one, which means Mr Loz could stay all night if Bug decides to make an appearance at some unsocial hour. All the delivery rooms have birthing pools, sofas, beds, pretty pictures & flowers - it really is a home from home. Mr Loz's eyes lit up at the kitchen which is always stocked with tea, coffee, bread & cereal, for us to just help ourselves. We got lost walking around at the end of the tour, so had a drive yesterday to do a dummy run. We also fitted the car seat & had a lovely lady in M&P check it was correct, so Mr Loz can now sleep at night.

MW appointment this afternoon, so fingers crossed Bug isn't breach. I was convinced s/he had moved as I was feeling movement higher up. Typically last night I felt odd, & movement all seems lower down again. Of course this could mean Bug is burrowing further south for d-day. But you know how I like to work myself into a frenzy

Scorps I feel very for the indifference TYF parents are showing. Mr Loz's mum actually started to cry yesterday & squeeed to a pitch only dogs could hear when she saw the pram & pile of babygrows all neatly washed & ironed. However, she has her tendencies to be completely bonkers & has the most vile on/off boyf in the history of the world. But that's all for another day. His step mum could prolly be over-bearing, but has the biggest heart ever & she lives away, so I can cope. My mum is just perfect & although she only lives a 5 min walk away she is not in our pockets. Family is getting excited, but desperately trying not to show it to me. My sister has point blank told me she doesn't want to be alone with me now until Bug is here. Gotta love her honesty.

Anyone heard from Truffs? Poor love, sounds like a bit of a tough time going on there end of last week. Smooches all round.

Oh, lovely M&P lady asked when I was due. I replied 3 weeks, to which she replied "Oh, any time then really". Uh no, 3 weeks lady, 3 weeks

Yes, am worrying about Truff now too. Also hoping for No News Is Good News

Thanks for the MIL commiserations, everyone. I do realise we were supremely lucky to have such an idyllic Grandparent situation but of course, my unconscious mind sees it as the norm and automatically strives for it. They and my folks all worked hard to make it so good, of course, and I have always put a lot of effort into trying to have great relationships with the ILs but they're just not bothered. TYF's Aunt once drunkenly told me that MIL finds it weird that I'm only 19 yrs younger than her and finds it confusing as to how to approach me (ie DIL template is young, naive, malleable bint and I'm not) but that's as ridiculous as my Dad not making an effort with TYF because he's 41 yrs younger! I realise that The Lad will take the difference in his stride, but it also makes me sad for myself to think of how close my Mum and Gran are (her MIL) and that I won't have that. However, the ILs have some very odd ideas about childrearing which are diametrically opposed to my views and how I was brought up, so I guess it's a silver lining that they won't have much influence or involvement. My folks can be a bit lovingly smothering but never in an interfering way and never offer unwanted suggestions or advice about anything, so I should just count my blessings :)

Loz - ANY DAY NOW! Seeing as that's all anyone says to me nowadays, it feel so good to say it to someone else, buahaha! And that goes for you too, Rocket - ready to launch, etc., etc.!

Good luck with the MW this avo. I have my last consultant's appointment at noon and will be given a theoretical induction date, should The Lad get too comfy and refuse to get out in good time.

PS I thought my MW unit was good, but bloody hell, yours sounds a-mazing, Loz!

PPS I have had 4 hours sleep thanks to an attractive combination of diarrhoea and agonising trapped wind. How can I have both? How? How? These are not pre-laying signs, however; have both all the time, just a bit worse last night

Morning my fellow May layers (hopefully) Good luck with both your appointments today. Keep us posted.

lozzer your MWLU does indeed sound AMAZE, ours sounds shit tbh so no laying from me until after Wednesday, will be 37 weeks and safes safes for HB. They have closed the wing with the private rooms due to 'staffing issues' So if I have to stay in then no TB and 6 of us on a ward. Only one birth suite with a pool. The rest are tiny rooms with showers. Apparently the only bath is on the private room wing so you have to fight tooth and nail to get a bath even!! I have cancelled our tour as I think it would just depress/freak me out and MW said that the only (very unlikely) way I would end up there would be in an ambulance and straight to the Delivery Suite. She said by that point I wouldn't care and as TB has been there before (to drop off white goods) he knows the layout anyway. I really like how confident she is in me having an easy HB!!! She also said she wouldn't even discuss induction with me until 40+10. So yes ourkid nowt is going to be too good for her and her team, I just need to time the buying of the snacks correctly unless they get devoured by a swarm of lucusts TB :o

Oh Lozza I don't know where you live but would you mind awfully if I moved into your gaff so I can have my baybee at your glorious MW led unit? Ours has two rooms and frequently shuts as they steal the staff to work on delivery suite. Delivery suite only has two rooms that actually have natural daylight.

Booty feel free to move in as long as you don't mind babysitting. Our local hossie shut their MLU this week, so I do have to travel a leetle bit further to dream MLU. But really, its a small price to pay. I worked out I've only ever spent a maximum of 6 hours lying on a hospital bed in my entire life - split between having my ankle plastered when I tore ligaments / tissue / tendons playing Wonder Woman (don't ask!) & having my wrist plastered when I dived head first downstairs. So it will be odd being in hospital.

Rocket I'm so glad that it seems all systems go fo your HB. Fab that your MW & team all seem so relaxed & up for it.

Score Like you I've had a very lucky experience with my GP, even having my great-gran aRound until I was 13. Mr Loz's mum isn't always maternal in the sense that I see my mum, so its going to be entertaining seeing her with Bug. Talking of GP I'm feeling a bit squiffy, not only am I due this month, my beloved grandad passed away 3 years ago this month. I'd give ANYTHING for him to see Bug, just for an hour

Right, before I go all hormonal & weepy on yo' asses, I'm going to put the kettle on & crack open the chocolate hobnobs, as my good ole pal is coming over for coffee soon.

'lo all
Am speed reading/typing as computer is broken.
Will catch up at work tomorrow
Truffs???

chinese burns to the rest of you ('sept the layers-to-be)

Hi hags and sorry for my absence creating worry, is all good news indeed and have just been absent due to very busy weekend of announcing then falling into bed as soon as I got home yesterday evening!

Scan was all fine, measuring exactly 12+1 on Saturday with nuchal measurement at 11.5, which is good on it's own but will need to be read with bloods tomorrow. I had to go out and wait for half an hour as my baldder wasn't full enough, but was worth it to see the bobba swishing about. It was facing down so we've been turning the scan pic upside down to show people, as you can make it out better! The announcing was lovely on the whole, with a few tears (from my sister, Grandad and one of my friends) and lots of congrasts, back slapping for TGB and some really nice comments about 'you will make lovely parents' so a very squee time all round.

My hardest moment of the weekend was telling my best friend who has been struggling with fertility issues for nearly 3 years now. She knew we were trying but I knew it would be tough for her to hear so I decided to call her to tell her and then arrange to meet up next week once she'd had time to 'react' in private. The call was baically worst case scenario as she burst into tears and told me she couldn't talk to me and needed to go then eded the call. I was really upset as there is nothing I can do to make it ok for her. She has since sent me an email saying she's struggling but wants to make sure it doesn't get in the way of her being involved, I really hope we can find a way to work it out so she can be included but not find it upsetting.

I am hoping that my sickness is starting to ease as well, as although I felt nauseous over the weekend I wasn't actually sick as much as normal. Very much hoping it turns a corner now and I can enjoy a phase of blooming I also got a stack of maternity clothes from my SiL who is nearing the end of her third pregnancy. They've said this is their last one but when I asked if she would want them back, she did say if BiL starts talking about her going back to work in a few years she might need to think about using them again

Sorry for mememe, I intended just to pop in and reassure but have ended up gushing a bit - oops

Looking forward to some laying coming up in the next few weeks now and am super excited about my new neice or nephwe arriving in a months' time, holding a newborn whilst expecting my own is going to be a very new and strange experience I think.

P.S - Salad that cardigan is extremely squee making!

Yay for a healthy bouncing bean Truffs. Must be hard with your friend, but don't let it take away from you enjoying your pregnancy.

Phew, that's a relief, Truff. The announcing is lovely isn't it (although a bit like saying, hey Gran, I've had sex with a man!)? So sorry to hear about your friend taking it badly. It sounds like you two have a very open, strong friendship and it was lovely of her to email to reassure you. I too hope you can find a way through this together (and, of course, hope she gets her win too). You sound a great friend :) Glad too that Teh Vom seems to be calming down. Fingers crossed you've turned a corner.

Loz, don't get me started on Granddads. My maternal Gramps was my best friend and even though he died in 1997, I miss him every day (TYF is v much like him in character - coincidence that he's my ideal man?!). That's why I've created my own birth visualisation of my 3 deceased GPs supporting me, so I can envision them meeting The Lad

Anyway, I won't be sad, because the consultant appointment was great. Urine, BP = textbook. The Lad's size and heartbeat = textbook. Head down, though not yet engaged, but low enough that it'd be highly unlikely he could go breech now. His back is at my tum, so that's good. Lovely lady put me down for priority for birthing pool and any pain relief I want, inc. epidural cos of my SPD and pre-existing CFS. Offered a sweep on 23rd if no sign of laying by then, but she said the signs pointed to me laying before then. So, v happy and relieved about everything.

Well, apart from the fact that I've come home to discover that the bank has taken a direct debit out 3 fucking times by accident and I now have £15 in the world until they sort it (a few days)

Laydeeeeez I have posted the books today.

'ello everyone. Sorry I kind of joined the deli and then fecked off -the whole successful diffment thing got a bit overwhelming for a few weeks and I needed some time off.

But now the imminent laying is getting too exciting to stay away from I'm going to join in on Scorps crotchwatch if you don't mind -whilst keeping an eye on laurie and rocket as well of course

Truffs so glad to hear that everything went well with the scan. And you sound like a very understanding friend. I was in your friend's situation about 6 months ago (best friend diffed, she knew we were having problems and told me gently), and there isn't really much you can do. Just ask her how she wants to handle things, what she wants (and doesn't want) to talk about -I at least found it easier to acknowledge that things were painful, rather than pretending everything was great. And hopefully she'll go the same way I did and diff some months later! :)

Barbie sooo pleased for you Apart from the vomming. Hope that gets better soon.

Speaking of vomming, I'm not. I realise I'm probably lucky in that regard, but there is that underlying worry that I should be feeling more symptoms. Am 8+5 today. A bit more tired that usual, hungrier than usual, occasional mild carsickness-like nausea, and slightly tender boobs, but nothing else. Anyone in the deli want to reassure me that you can get off lightly and still be fine?

truffs glad everything is ok and that you have had a nice weekend telling everyone. It's hard with your friend, I hope with enough time and space she will be able to handle it. I have a really similar situ with my BF who has just had one failed IVF attempt, she has been amazing at separating the two things tho. I really hope that your friend is able to too, I am sure given the obviously strong friendship that she will.

cava you've done it now. Bound to wake up with horrendous vomming tomorrow morning. Seriously tho, I know loads of people who have been lucky enough to be virtually symptom free and have had perfect pregnancies (lucky baitches!) Hope it stays that mild for you.

score great news on perfect results and pool priority. I really can't see you needing that sweep either.

I can help with the reassurance Cakes. I felt vaguely sick for the first few weeks, but simultaneously ridiculously hungry all the time. Also extremely knackered, but I was walking to work in the snow for 2 hrs each day so may be coincidence.

Anyhoo, I consider that a pretty easy 1st trimester compared to many, and am currently the proud bearer of a 31 week bump.

Good news from the Truff. Sounds as if your pal is doing her best to get her head around the news, and you've handled her as gently as you could.

We're just back from the MW. Not sure which way up the foxcub is at the mo - she couldn't tell, nor can we. Otherwise all good.

Does anyone have any views on Vitamin K? The NCT info suggests you should think about whether you want it for your child, but our midwife seemed confused that we were even asking about it. Policy in our area is to give it to all babies.

Our NCT advised to get it, she just talked to us about specifying the choice between injection and oral, which personally I would say would depend on the type of birth you are planning/end up with. My MW agreed. IE if you have had a procedure free natural birth would you then want the first thing to happen to your baby be having a needle stuck in it?

Vitamin K issue is a hangover from a health scare - like the MMR thing. The injection was tentatively linked to childhood leukaemia, since disproved. As far as I know, the oral dose has to be given on three different occasions over the first month; the injection is one less thing to think about during sleep-deprived newborn weeks.

cnc no vomming here. And I have a RL baybee chewing my boobs off...

Hurrah Truffs, and although it has been hard for your friend, at least she has been honest with you, rather than just going funny or distant with you.

Vit K - yeah, I just said OK to it, didn't really give it too much worry.

Yep drom you are right. oral is 3 doses if BFing and 2 if FF as formula has it added. I think those would be administered at the routine checks (not extra appointments iyswim) although it might be worth double checking that as I am not 100%. Hadn't thought of it as being an extra thing to think about but it's a very good point. How it going? Berwhale gnawing away then? :o