November 2011 - holding hands, making plans & having scans

[TerrysNo2]

Thread 2 for the chatty lot. Welcome from the first thread and hopefully some newbies too!

This thread is for chats and this thread is for stats!

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Welcome Buffy! Is this your first? We have a separate stats thread for details of age, children and EDD. The link is at the top of each page in Terry's message.

Hi buffy! Very cute about DH and the yogurt flavors, seems like we have the same book. but what about next week when the bean is roughly the size of an olive:)?

wolf that is really annoying that the MW cancelled on you without even telling you! I would have gotten huffy :) oh well, your appointment will be here before we know it!

aaarrrrgggh!!

Insomnia again. So knackered I can hardly keep my eyes open, and yet I can't sleep. What is going on ?!!

Snozzle - I don't know but it's a real nightmare. I was up worrying about the Nuchal next Friday!!! There is nothing I can do now to change the outcome but still I worry myself stupid. It's my age (39) which is now freaking me out.

I am sorry, I have no tips to help - nothing seems to work. I either go straight to sleep or have a dreadful night. I feel for you!

Morning ladies, I've been off line for a few days as busy a work and shattered so early to bed each evening. Have just caught up on the thread.

Piply I just wanted to add to the comments about looking after yourself and letting others help. So sorry it has ended this way for you but very much hoping you get another chance soon, with a happier outcome.

Wuzz you are right to think that vomiting doesn't equal relief with pregnancy sickness, at least not that I have experienced! I'm off to see my GP today as I can't keep food down still and am worried about not getting enough calories in me. The only thing I've managed to eat successfully is ice (for water) and plain fruit flavoured ice lollies. I have found some Del Monte ones that provide one of my 5 a day, so am pleased with that. Am hoping my GP will give me some anti-emetics so I can eat normally more often (my tummy rumbles constantly as well, which is sooo embarrassing!) We're off to a BBQ at a friend's house on Saturday and I don't want to give the game away by throwing up everything I eat

It sounds like everyone is making the most of the lovely weather when not at work. I got home early yesterday evening and sat on the balcony enjoying the warmth for an hour or so. My GP is a 10 minute walk (maybe slightly longer at the moment!) so I'll stock up on vitamin D on my way there!

Thankfully, I am sleeping really well so no advice for the insomniacs amongst you. I've always been a good sleeper (drop of pretty much anywhere, not woken by noises) and am hoping this continues for as long as possible. In the evenings when I can't stand the nausea anymore, I just take myself off to bed at the moment so would hate it if I lost that relief!!

Right, I've rambled on long enough and it's pretty much all been about me so apologies for that girls! Glad it's Thursday and the weekend is in sight!

katiebeau and other insomniacs - I have suffered terribly with insomnia this time. It's apparently largely due to the hormones, but we all make it far worse with worrying - for me it's the fear of another mmc - making an inventory of every symptom and whether it's getting better or worse. The less I sleep, the worse I feel the next day and the cycle continues. I tend to find I fall asleep very quickly due to exhaustion and then wake after about 3-5 hours when my body seems to think it's had enough sleep and my brain kicks in. I seem to remember this happening when DS was tiny too - so that's something to look forward to!

Anyway, for what it's worth, here are a few things I have tried which have been in any way successful:

• Rescue Remedy Nighttime Spray is the most effective. A couple of sprays onto your tongue if you can't get back to sleep seems to blank your mind out and relax. I don't use it every night as I would rather get through this pregnancy without unnecessary drugs even though everything I have read and the local homeopathic pharmacy have said it is fine. Obviously, you need to check this out for yourself.
• Lavender Oil - 3 deep breaths or drops on the pillow can sometimes help
• Counting backwards from 300 in threes. I read about this somewhere and I guess it's supposed to be meditative. Can work if my mind's not too buzzing, but sometimes pointless. Also, as you get more proficient at it, you find you don't need to concentrate so hard and the insidious thoughts creep in round the sides.
• Lying with your eyes open so your eyes get tired. Again, I read this and I'm not convinced it works but it's like a less disruptive version of the last resort
• switching on the light and reading for a bit or going downstairs and making a chamomile tea.

Hope some of those are helpful or at least worth a try (appreciate they'll all probably be old rope to those used to sleepless nights). I also find now with my pregnancy bladder I need to drink my day's water before 8pm and nothing after then except the odd sip of water to minimise the inevitable trips to the bathroom.

Good luck!

cass counting back from 300 in 3's??? wow i am impressed you can do that especially when exhausted. I think it would just hurt my head even more!!

Wow those are some amazing tips for insomnia!!! Thanks!! I'm okayish at the moment unless I'm stressing (so I got no sleep before Monday's scan) but I am definitely saving those for month eight. I used to have to read until 4am every night before my tiredness could overcome my discomfort, what with restless legs from hell, pelvic pain, then entirely numb legs (DS was huge!). This time round I'm making a point of still sleeping on my tum for as long as poss (unlike with DS where I stopped the minute I found out because it felt mean to him - just a little PFB!!), because I know that next you have to give up sleeping on your back and those months sleeping just on your side are so wearying. And the aches as you slowly turn over. Argh. My sickness appears to have really abated right now.... one week only, could I really be that lucky? Maybe it is another boy? Hope all are well. Martha how's the BFing going? V painful here.

Thanks for the coping with insomnia tips, it does help to know that I'm not alone, and I will give those a try.

I think its probably worry, although I try not to stress. All the usual worries about the baby, I suppose, plus I'm 35 now and it seems like I can't watch TV or read a newspaper without some new horror story about how mothers over the age of 35 are such a burden on the health service/selfish for putting it off too long (I'd have had this over with ten years ago if DH had agreed - we were married 7 years before 1st child, and will be married for over 12 by the time this one is born. Grrr, don't start me on the 'modern women are too selfish' stories, why is it always the woman's fault?!)/putting their babies at risk of defects etc. When you add that to the guilt over what you eat etc, its amazing that its only a minority of us who have insomnia!

I hear you snoozle. Just after my mmc a "friend" who was pregnant with her 2nd emailed to say (amongst other things) that she was glad her baby was due before her birthday so she wouldn't be a 38-year old pregnant woman!! Now, to be fair to her, she didn't know I'd had the mmc, but she did know we wanted a second child and so were likely to be trying and as my birthday was before hers, I did think it more than a little insensitive... I'm dreading the nuchal, although in the middle of the night when I've convinced myself I've had another mmc, the fear of the nuchal is diminished - strange that!

Hope you sleep better tonight!

Charming "friend" you've got there CassandraB!

Will definitely get my stats up there knockedupagain.

Not sure about olive week, as I can't stand olives and my cravings haven't got weird enough yet to want olive flavoured yogurt if that's the way DH decides to go... frankly just glad he's on board with the whole thing. If only he got the paranoia as well...

Yep, this is my first try!

Thanks for all the insomnia tricks everybody - definitely going to be put to use!

I meant to say Buffy that we've been calling the baby by whatever fruit it is and have stayed with Raspberry for this week LOL! Wonder what it says for next week.

I'm delighted to report that I've got some drugs I'll be trying them out this evening with dinner and fingers crossed it will stay down!

I know I said this before but I'm really sorry for everyone with insomnia and hope that some of those tips help out.

Thanks Truffkin will definitely stick with Raspberry for a bit - much better than olive! Then it's on to Prune I think (a sign of things to come, perhaps? oh dear...)

And hooray for drugs!

Can't wait for first MW appt on Monday as I think that's when it will become real!

Woweeee ... thanks for the insomnia tips! I'm really suffering too. Can hardly function for being so sleepy. I'm ok if I stay asleep but as soon as I'm worken up (last night by DD2), I just can't get back again. It's definitely pregnancy related for me as I've had it the other times too. And normally I don't have any problems.

I'm also 39 and worrying and wondering about what that might bring ...

Evening all. My acupuncturist told me that progesterone is a sneaky thing - making pg ladies very sleepy in the afternoon but wide awake at night. I find horlicks helps me.
When I got to about 24 weeks with DD I got terrible insomnia - ended up watching coronation street at 3am! My friend ended up going for long walks with her DP at 5am....eek.

Truffkin so glad you got drugs - hope they help. I have been incredibly lucky with DD pregnancy and this one and just feel a bit nauseous for a few weeks. I'm 8+1 today and haven't felt much nausea today. Boobs are very achy though.

Off to Glasgow on Monday for a long day with work. NOT looking forward to it as it means a 5am start to catch a flight from Manchester.

I'm 39 too (well, I just turned it last week). I worry that I'm old too but I didn't meet DP until I was 31 and by the time we'd set up home and started ttc for DD, I was already 34. Waddya do?! I just keep reminding myself that even though the risks increase with age, the overall risks are still low and most babies will be born healthy.

Hello all!

Buffy welcome, loving the yoghurts! We call our baby Poppy because in the first few weeks we read it was the size of a Poppy seed. DS was Peanut as that's how big he was on the scan (and what the sonographer said).

I don't have insomnia but I always find it difficult to fall asleep, pregnant or not. Casswill try the counting in 3's. DH and I used to play that drinking game - don't say numbers with a 3 or 4 in or divisible by 3 or 4. Just me??

cass and ochaye my mum had a perfectly healthy baby at 45 and thats far older than you!!

DH out tonight so I am not doing much. Been blogging, please check it out if you fancy it here

I'm from the manchester area! There are lots of stories succesfull pg of women in their late 30's and 40's. X

Welcome new folk - can't remember names sorry as only on phone!

Anyway just posting to say OMG just had most fab news - my best friend from age 6 who moved to live in same city as me just over a year ago has just told me her first baby is due 3rd Nov and I'm due 8th! So excited! To be going through it all together and mat leave (just need someone to sit on the what if paranoid bit of me so I can enjoy being excited for a bit)

evening all.

collie do you (did i know that. ) most of my family come from manchester, the middleton/heywood areas.

ali it is nice when that happens, it was like that for a friend of mine when i was pg with ds.

alicat thats lovely! I was very excited to find out a good friend from university is due in September. We live quite a long way away from each other but hopefully it will bring us closer!

i know the middleton/heywood area, it's my side of mcr. Have some family from that way too but don't really see them. I know you're south, whereabouts again?

It has made me realise just how much I've been dwelling on the negative - all my fears swirling round my head. Hearing her excitement made me feel excited again too :) so any fellow scaredy cats out there try and let some excitement back in

Right off to bed - hopefully for more sleep this time ...

collie i'm down fareham way.

ali i'm still too nervous to be excited yet, i think when i feel it moving i'll be able to get excited. I glad you managed to find your excitement again though

terrys - I think stopping mid-count to take a drink if you get it wrong might make it even harder to get to sleep... unless it's gin and you're really bad at counting of course! Tempting though!

Morning ladies :)

I'm never going to keep up with this thread! Haha! Terry great blog! I'm a fellow blogger. All about my life as an angel Mummy and Belle: After Anabelle

Had a very busy week working on Belle's big fundraising day. We've been organising a fete and a sponsored walk to coincide with her 1st birthday and raise lots of money for Sands. This week two local papers have responded to me and are going to run the story about Belle and the fundraiser! Just need to organise a visit from the reporters now. A local bank has agreed to match our fundraising which is so exciting. We've already raised almost £400 without actually doing anything, so I'm hoping we can get to at least £1000 on the day and then to have that doubled would be amazing. Who knew my girl could drum up so much support and to be in the paper! Wow! Hope it all pulls off now, one of them are supposed to be ringing me this evening or Monday.

Think I'm going to let everyone know in work next Friday, (a few people know who have to at the moment and my close friend) so they can get over it over the Easter holidays. I do not want the fuss of congratulations and then the I must be so scared malarky. DH and I don't really know why we're waiting because 12 weeks means nothing to us anyway. Conforming to the norm I guess.

How is everyone else feeling? I'm knackered! Yay for it being Saturday and a long lie in! I'm also feeling enormous. Did I tell you one of the guests at the wedding I was last weekend asked me when my baby was due?! When I told her it wasn't until November, but that it was my 2nd with a small gap, she was like "yes dear, it happens like that, it is wonderful to see your bump" How lovely. Maternity clothes are going to have to make a reappearance very soon I think. DH has taken a side profile picture every week so far since BFP and the changes so quickly are amazing!

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I will make the effort to catch up again later on!