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confuddledDOTcom · 07/03/2011 20:21

F1rstT1meMummy 25/6/11
Ickle: EDD 29/6 pg#1 age 31
Pesha: EDD 30/6 pg#4, age 32, (dd 10yrs, ds1 7yrs, ds2 3yrs)
Blueberryjam EDD 1/7 PG#5 AGE 27 ( 7,6,4 & 8 months)
Loueytbg EDD 1/7 PG#3 Age 37 (DS1&2 3.6, 1 mc)
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Emmylou30: EDD4/7 pg#1 age 30
Mitchell81: EDD 4/7 pg#4 age 29(dd 10 yrs,ds1 4yrs, ds2 2yrs)
Eglu: EDD 5/7 pg#3, age 33 (DS 7 & 3) - Girl
Twit: EDD 5/7 pg#6 age 35 (3 ds's 12,9,3 one dd 4)
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Scarthy: EDD 10/7 pg#2 age 35 (DS 3yrs)
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buttonmoon78 · 09/05/2011 22:14

So far I've gained 1st 2lb. Not too bad!

Re positions. As far as I remember, the problem is that any position which opens the pelvis is a bad thing with spd/pgp. Which is why, if the baby settles head up, I won't be able to do much about it!

My toe is poorly bad. Can't face a bath tonight - it might hurt and I'm a dreadful wuss. It's throbbing like it's got toothache IYKWIM?

buttonmoon78 · 09/05/2011 22:17

I guess the difference Jimmy is that men with beer bellies often have an accumulation of weight from years of drinking. Ours has arrived in a matter of a couple of months!

JimmyChoo17 · 09/05/2011 22:19

Your poor toe!! It is such a painful thing to do....and it's not like you need anything else to make moving about more awkward or knock you off balance..

My boss decided to drill and cut off his own toe nail as was ingrown...he did it a few weeks back...self surgery didn't work out and he has only just been able to walk again! Men....anything to get out of seeing the dr!

1st 2 is good...how much did you gain with previous DC's button?

JimmyChoo17 · 09/05/2011 22:21

I guess the difference Jimmy is that men with beer bellies often have an accumulation of weight from years of drinking. Ours has arrived in a matter of a couple of months!

Agreed!!! And I bet they have more fun maintaining it than we do....Grin I am amazed I am saying this....but I am looking forward to dieting! Me and carbs don't mix! Neither do me and choc buttons!

Fab123 · 09/05/2011 22:27

Ooh I'll try and upload a couple I've taken for my iPhone apps (apologies if anyone is squeamish as it's a bra and pants job!) and you can have a laugh at my belly button. It was a real shock as it was soooo deep before. Blaming the anterior placenta for it's prominence Wink. I've been told 2-3st is normal (I'm 5ft9) and only have 10 weeks left, so hopefully won't gain another stone in that time Shock

Pesha · 09/05/2011 22:29

Hi all, keep reading but not actually posting.

I have a rugby ball tummy and did last time too, cant remember if I did with the first 2, and never realised it was any thing other than normal. Will be a bit more careful now although hips make it very hard to sit up from lying anyway so only time I really notice it is in the bath.

I had ds1 whilst lying on my left side, completely unplanned.Contractions started about 6am (or enough to wake me anyway) but were never regular so didn't realise it was real labour until the pain got really bad and a friend told me to ring the labour ward! Was lying on hospital bed as quite tired and MW asked if I wanted to get up or try moving around, I said 'I'll just lie on my side a minute', rolled on my side, waters went and he was born 9 minutes later!! I screamed him out Hmm Grin I was scared by the sudden speed and could hear mws clattering metal things about and thought they must be going to cut me as he was coming too quickly. I also dropped my G&A which I'd been relying on quite heavily until then and needed dp to hold my leg up in the air for me so it was all a bit quick and panicky but I certainly didn't have to push. DD was on my back due to being monitored and it was hellish. DS2 I squatted and knelt throughout, there was a lot of pushing but it felt like my body pushing and was totally out of my control - very positive and almost enjoyable birth despite the excruciating pain!! I think all 3 were back to back, 1st and 3rd definitely were.

Had loads more to say but getting tired now and in danger of being sucked into watching 28 weeks later which I really don't want to do!! My emotions are out of control at the moment so I suspect it will terrify me and leave me up all night with nightmares! I also keep getting the giggles about things that are not at all particularly funny. Friday I was thinking to myself how movements were less strong and baby must have moved so was probably 'back to front' (as opposed to back to back obviously) which for some reason set me off in a fit of uncontrollable giggles. DP looked at me like this --> Hmm and carried on watching football!

Baby jumping on bladder now so really have to go!

buttonmoon78 · 09/05/2011 22:44

TBH Jimmy I've never put that much on - but then I've always been overweight to begin with so I shouldn't!

My dh cut out a verruca once with a penknife. Said when he came round all he could see was his mum shouting at all the blood on the carpet. Men indeed Hmm.

I suspect the trolley rage was my 'fault'. I was walking v slowly (can't manage crutches and trolley so use trolley for support) but was keeping to the sides of the aisles. I guess if they'd been in a car they'd be the sort that sits on your bumper and flashes their lights!

JimmyChoo17 · 09/05/2011 23:21

Aw sad news for Kelly brook must be so sad being in public eye too :(

Love my bump, niggles and all xx

confuddledDOTcom · 10/05/2011 01:08

Button, squats are supposed to be good for childbirth and piles too so definitely worth a try, just don't go down too far!

Looking at the weights I've put 14-20th May as my guesstimate of when she'll come which is when she'll be the weights of the other two. I hate it when people moan about pregnancy and want the baby out this early but because of everything I'm going through the sooner now the better for me. I've been having strong contractions all night but then I have been for awhile and it's difficult because I don't want to rush up for them to stop and end up being kept in another two nights and I don't want to leave it too late so I'm constantly on alert - at least now though with a full course of steroids I don't need to rush because there's not a lot they will do.

Total sympathy with the nail! You never realise how much they hurt until you do it. At the start of my pregnancy, before I knew I was pregnant, I slammed my thumb in the car door and broke it just above the crescent! It's only recently grown out although you can still see the bottom of where I had an acrylic put on as a plaster. I have to use the trolley for support too, so the crutches get flung in the basket. My local Tesco doesn't have any scooters which are a life saver when you get them! I found out that baby seat trolleys are brilliant when things are bad. I cross my arm across the seats and lie on them. I only found this out as we met OH once and the girls wanted to get down to him, so I lay on the seats as I was in too much pain to stand up.

Twit, glad to hear you're taking them regular - remember, it's not pain relief, it's medication for your PGP! If it doesn't work taken like that then try upping it to co-codamol. It's to do with the fact it takes awhile to kick in so you end up with ups and downs in the pain whereas if you take it regularly it will give you a consistent level of numbed pain. Natural birth is absolutely the best way to deliver for PGP - if there are no other considerations, obviously. Staying mobile, keeping upright etc will all help. Also knowing your limits as some women find the pain of labour/ birth can overshadow the PGP and they forget their limits and end up in a lot of pain later on. Because they're going through the major core muscles you don't have those muscles at full strength to pull you back together after a section.

It's been awhile since I looked at birth positions with PGP. Lying on your side is good if you need to slow things down though. If you've got a physio they can talk to you about positions, if not ask to speak to one otherwise ask your MW.

cara, I find sucking Kendall helps if you can get it and can stand it - I've got some now for that reason, sadly my last bar so need to find some more!

stan, sections aren't like that for everyone. I spent a week on my back having to call the MWs and nurses to sit me up and pass me my baby because I could barely move. I still managed to burst my stitches. When I went home I kept her inside my clothes so I didn't have to rely on anyone and spent most of the time in bed. It's one of the reasons that I've had PGP for 6.5 years. A natural birth is better for the recovery of the woman and child, it is also a lot safer. They're great when needed (and I did need them, my difficult recovery is better than the alternative) but if they're not needed then it's far better (safer and healthier to both) to deliver naturally - especially when the mother has PGP.

Eglu, YOU will deliver the baby, anyone else is just the catcher. You've done it before you know what you're doing. If the baby comes then get him/her onto your chest for skin to skin and breastfeed. The cord doesn't need to be cut, but if you deliver the placenta put it in a bowl above the baby's belly button. Breastfeeding will help the placenta and the afterbirth pains. If a woman passed out in the middle of a field miles from anywhere with no one to help her, between her body and the baby everything would be sorted. If you're worried ask for a note to be put in the front of your file or for it to be entered onto the Alert Sheet that you are a rapid delivery and they need to get straight to you.

Jimmy, have you tried Ina May? It's a brilliant book, can sound a little extreme at times but that's because it's written for the American birth model. Another one I like is The Water Birth Book, even if you're not having a water birth it goes into so much detail about how the body works and why that I found it really helpful. DVD that'll get interesting reactions from your OH is Orgasmic Birth (some scenes are on YouTube)!

You can squat with the help of different things, such as holding onto the side of a bed or table (if you're planning to be home) or even getting him to hug you under your arms and take your weight. All fours has a similar effect too. Don't go in with the idea you will do this position or that one, allow your body to lead you it knows better.

I don't think IIRC I've even gained a stone - they measure in kg so I'm not sure.

Really fed up tonight, more contractions and very wiggly baby. I'm sure she was breech earlier but my bump has dropped this evening so I think she's back to head down.

Had bit of a scary night last night. Was woken by a bang and a scream - one of those classic it was my scream that woke me moments! The support for the slats on my side of the bed broke in half and came away from the bed on the bottom half. I couldn't move because the small of my back was supported but from my bottom down I wasn't. I felt like a car on the edge of a cliff, if I moved it made it worse but I needed to move to escape. Eventually OH managed to pull me up and we went downstairs to sleep on the sofas. Been in a lot of pain with the back today and struggling to stand up straight some of the time. Mum is really upset because she bought it for us last weekend from someone she knew and feels she should have checked it better. They're on holiday or Dad would have been over to fix it so another night on the sofa. OH's stepdad is coming over on Wednesday to fix it for us.

We've been home a week now and I'm amazed at the difference. I'm so much calmer and handling my eldest better, she's in a better mood, sleeping better so much that her asthma has improved! No fights at bedtime, she's not asking for DVDs and finding other excuses not to go to sleep. She's over slept every single morning! OH is driving me mad at the moment though, but we've not been together for six months so we're getting used to each other again.

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buttonmoon78 · 10/05/2011 08:00

It's hard isn't it - you miss them when they're away but when they get back things are also hard Confused

Squatting is not a good thing for me. I tried a bit last night but it just hurt too much.

Lamb shepherd's pie is not an option for me again. I ate early (7pm) and I was still up in the night 3 times chucking up acid and bile. Sad

I hope things get resolved soon Confuddled. I'm not wishing the baby out, but that's the only way it'll really be resolved I assume?

And I agree Jimmy. The thought of losing a baby so late is one of my worst nightmares. Makes me go cold whenever I hear about it happening. And to have to do that in the public eye must be dreadful. Brings up all sorts of arguments re ethical reporting etc. Poor girl though. Sad

confuddledDOTcom · 10/05/2011 08:36

We've gone through this cycle so many times in the last three years as he has been working away for most of it. The girls don't seem to care but we're both used to being independent and then he messes up the girls' routine...

I don't think there's much choice about her being early, just the way my body works. Until then I've just got to put up everything, but I'm a good stage now so happy for her to come when she's ready.

Definitely be led by your body, pain means you need to stop so don't go past your limits. My physio hates when doctors tell women to push past the pain or as one of mine said pain makes you release endorphins that help make it better Confused she wasn't impressed!

I find myself avoiding the stories of people losing babies mid-T. I feel rotten for it but I do feel for them, I can't help but not but it's hard going when I've lost a baby at a similar age and spend all my pregnancies hanging on for a good gestation Sad I've just started replying to comments on newspaper articles.... this could be interesting!

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Twit · 10/05/2011 14:07

I'm still crossing my fingers for you both confuddled

Button squatting is not for me either, I couldn't if I wanted to and the last thing I need is to make things faster.

Eglu let's get swatting up on births then Grin. I asked DH what he would do and he said the same as confuddled so as long as everything went as normal we'd be ok. I have to say this is one reason I would consider getting a doula at least (if not an independant MW)I don't know what confuddled would say as a professional, maybe I'm wrong but I don't know whether a doula would be willing to risk being the person catching the baby (lol) instead if a MW? (and it's probably too late now anyway)

Eglu · 10/05/2011 14:49

DH is not one for reading up on helping me in the event of lack of mw's. I think he is in denial about it.

Confuddled I have had dreams where I deliver the baby on my own and I'm quite calm. didn't know about placenta above baby though, so thanks for that info.

As for everyone talking about squatting. I couldn't have managed that. I was on my knees leaning over a large cushion on the sofa for DS2 and it was great. I plan on that again.

buttonmoon78 · 10/05/2011 14:52

Been to MW today. BP up a bit but MW not worried. She couldn't examine properly (too painful) but is pretty sure its breech. When I mentioned the kicks threatening to come out of my bits she said deffo. Been here before!

So back again in another 3 weeks...

Twit · 10/05/2011 16:19

Aw button, there's still time and all that.

Eglu I'm the one in denial in our house, but I didn't know about keeping the placenta above the baby either. You learn something new everyday Wink

I'm wondering if leaning over my gym ball would be a good position. In my previous births I seem to end up sat up (ish) on the bed legs akimbo so who knows. There just doesn't seem to be time between sleepy and pushing to get from lying down (on my side) and baby out. Just so you know, 3 pushes.

I'm liking that some of the posting ATM is those who have done it and are crapping themselves looking forward to it again Wink

(Honestly, to the first-timers, it's not that bad. I'm quite looking forward to labour (except the transition contractions, those I'm a bit wibbly about) and I actually quite like the feeling of your body taking over to push, its not so much painful as overwhelming and painful .)

buttonmoon78 · 10/05/2011 16:23

Logically I know that to be true Twit but my babies tend to get comfy pretty early. And the fact that my support belt keeps my pelvis as tight as a tight thing can't help.

Ah well, time will tell!

confuddledDOTcom · 10/05/2011 16:40

A Doula can't attend a freebirth (a planned unassisted birth) if she was with you and said "you need to call the MW now" and you didn't she would probably walk out because it's against the law to act as a MW if you're not one. If you had a Doula, called the MW and she didn't get there in time the Doula would probably do everything she could to help because her back is covered. There is a well known male obstetrician (I forget who) who enables freebirths by attending them from another room so that the Doula and potentially the father's(!) backs are covered.

I had a client call me after the MW because she was worried about me getting in trouble but as long as the MW is called for the birth it's fine for a Doula to be with you in the lead up.

Keeping the placenta high may not be necessary as when the blood flows the cord congeals (and I do mean congeal not conceal Wink) and shouldn't let anything back through, above the belly button will stop anything from flowing towards the placenta (like putting your arm/ leg above your heart if you have a severe bleed). Look up lotus birth - cutting the cord isn't necessary, it will drop off between 3 and 10 days later on it's own.

It may not be too late to get a Doula, have a look at the Doula UK directory and see if anyone is free. Usually you'd do antenatal sessions around 34 and 36-38 weeks so still time to fit it in if you find one now.

All fours type positions are good, over a birth ball/ bed/ chair/ table/ OHs legs too as it is something to support your weight.

Transition can be funny depending on the woman. I've only got there once (that I know, with my eldest I was already delivering so could have missed it) and whilst I was in transition a MW tried to cover my legs (I had a massive skirt on so goodness knows why) I threw it on the floor and growled "I'm too hot!" she looked terrified Blush (I think the situation of upsetting a woman that you're attending to in labour at 20 weeks may have been it more than me growling). For one client it was a shift in the tub, her husband asked her where she wanted him and she said she didn't know where she wanted herself, MW said "Oh promising" and baby came almost as soon as she sat down. My Doula said sometimes it's just a flicker in the eyes. Some women get very scared, some wish they'd die or the baby would die. It's all good though, we need this change in mood to kick start the adrenalin.

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Twit · 10/05/2011 16:55

No I wouldn't want a doula instead of a MW, I just wondered if the MW got here too late and I had a doula with me, what would happen Smile
I have a very clear transition, 3 or 4 mega contractions I can't walk through and then a 5 min snooze.
I can't wear my belt sat down, so put it on when I need to walk somewhere or do a job around the house. I was given exercises leaning forward on a gym ball, which might havre hlped my tranverse LO move around. Mine always settle early too so I am relieved that atm BabyTwit is head down.

Eglu · 10/05/2011 16:55

I hate transition too, but fortunatley for me it lasts only a minute or two

Twit · 10/05/2011 17:03

Nope, had a look and no doulas within 20 miles, well one trainee but I'm thinking er, no.
Ah well, best get DH prepared (although I'm sure it won't happen)

Pesha · 10/05/2011 20:22

I ended up giving birth to ds2 whilst kneeling on the floor leaning on a birthing ball. Dp was kneeling on the floor holding my hands but unfortunately he has very bad knees (football injuries - no cartilege and numerous ligament ops) so was struggling. Apparently I did ask him to 'get off my fucking ball!!!' a few times! Blush But I think that was pushing rather than transition. From what I remember transition is when I start to think 'shit I really can't do this anymore' (lots of swearing in labour for me!) although I've never actually said I can't do it anymore as even in the midst of labour I'm aware how much of a cliche that is! I think I said I'd changed my mind though!

Saw MW today. 2 weeks ago my FH was 29, today it is 34! I'm actually 32+5 so its not that much bigger than it should be but does seem quite a jump. I also seem to have put on 3lb this week when for the last few weeks I've only been gaining about 1/2lb a week.

Baby seems to be squashing my lungs quite a lot too, particularly when I've eaten. Definitely too old and knackered for this pregnancy lark!!

confuddledDOTcom · 10/05/2011 20:28

Yeah, if it's not planned and just because your baby is quicker than the MWs that's not a problem and she'd be able to support you through it all afterwards so you'd have someone there with a little bit of experience, even if it's not medical help she can give you she'd be able to put your mind at rest that you were doing everything you could or talk you through things.

Twit, I don't like the term trainee to be honest because it suggests we're still training which it's not. All the training has been completed by that point and they're working with the support of an assessor/ mentor, working towards recognition, they debrief with the AM or ask for help if they need it. The most important thing with a Doula is that you get on with them and are comfortable with them, how far through their career isn't necessarily part of that. I know my trainer has been turned down for one of her trainees because the couple just hit it off better with them. It's not actually a requirement to be a trainee Doula, once you've done the course (or even some people skip it) you can become a private Doula

As far as the distance goes with recognised Doulas you may find that you're still in some Doulas areas even if it's more than 20 miles. Most will work to about 20 miles and if that means covering someone who isn't covered by anyone else then they're likely to help. My Doula is coming from about 30 miles away. There are others in the area but her specialty means that she was best for me and we get on well. I'm not even a stretch for her as she has done a few around here, she's doing the second interview that I know of in the area since she's been working with me!

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Fraochsmum · 10/05/2011 21:21

What are transition contractions? Sorry, would go upstairs and look in my book but don't want to waken the wee one.
My sis had an extremely quick 2nd birth - 1/2 hour in fact - and her DH phoned NHS24 and was talked very well through it all. Despite her house only being 15 mins away from the hospital, my nephews head was coming out when the ambulance arrived! My BIL didn't really want to be 'down the business end' that time, but nature took the choice away Wink
I gave birth on my knees with my arms hanging over the top end of the hospital bed, I also squated at the end of the bed for a bit but much preferred the 1st position. I hated the thought of giving birth on my back and am hoping I won't have to this time either.
DD (16m) has now become quite interested in my big belly and keeps pulling up my top and smacking it - I am covering my belly button with my hand but the wee besom prises off my fingers!
No idea how much weight I have put on, but it's never something I normally check - I'll see what it is when mw checks in a few weeks.
Nice evening all x

cara2244 · 10/05/2011 21:21

Jimmychoo, hope for heartburn- I am eating less than normal I think as it is painful otherwise!!

cara2244 · 10/05/2011 21:35

So sad about Kelly Brook :(

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