Jue in June 2011 ......the wittering and waffling continues

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I think this is thread 8 or maybe 9......maybe we should take bets on which number we are on in June!!:)

louey congratulations on your scan! Are you the last 20-week scanner on the thread? All you ladies who have kept the gender a surprise are so much more patient than me!

8rd and moomin hope you're feeling alright. Had a bit of a cry myself yesterday as I'd had a really long day at work and DH wasn't listening when I tried to tell him and then I sat in sulky silence panicking about work, the baby, moving house, finishing everything I need to do before maternity leave, and three horrendous projects I'm involved in which are more work than they're worth. At least Take That won Best British Group at The Brits :)

barbie I felt sorry for that lady on OBEM. It really annoys me when people use the 'should' sort of talk (my body 'certainly should' be able to do it drug-free) or talk as if they're saints or doing it 'properly'. They're not doing it any more 'properly' than anybody else, C-section, forceps, pethidine, gas, or what! But I thought the girl on OBEM was very naive - I always feel a bit suspicious when somebody really young starts proudly proclaiming that they're much older, much more mature and much more sensible than their peers (after all, you can be 25, sensible and have fun!), and then when she was in serious pain I thought it was awful that her mum wouldn't get her the help she wanted. I'm sure she's pleased now that she didn't have pethidine but it was like watching torture! She seemed to have an image of how perfect the baby would be and how perfect the birth would be and how perfect her life would be with a baby and I thought it was all a bit worrying, actually, and I felt a bit sorry for her.

The gas and air lady, on the other hand, was hilarious :) I thought the girl giving birth was amazing too - she was so together despite the circumstances.

Right, back to the grindstone, and I'll try not to cry today!

Morning all
Sorry to hear a few of you are having teary times - look after yourselves and get some nice sleep this weekend (DC allowing)

Thought you might like to know that I signed a letter yesterday from the Hypnotherapy Council to channel 4 complaining about Mondays OBEM being described as an example of 'hynobirthing' - it most certainly wasnt hypnobirthing and was quite damaging to the profession if anyone thought it was...grrr, rant over!

Fascinating time in yoga last night - we were doing exercises in mental stamina which involved doing something to the limits of physical pain...then having to find futher resources to hold it for another 10 seconds...bloody painful but for me it showed that I need a stronger visual image to draw on to maintain 'peace and relaxation' cos I lost all focus on mine the minute my pain threshold was pushed - such a wuss

Question - why does my bump get bigger through the day? It starts off reasonable and manageable but by the end of the day I'm back to walrus proportions - why does this happen?

jasmine mine gets bigger too - I unscientifically assumed it was water retention and eating through the day meaning my stomach pushed the baby out more. As I write this I realise how wrong that theory must be!

Morning everyone, thankyou for your kind thoughts. Going to work today, however much id prefer to stay at home. Slept better, the pillow must have helped a bit. I was far less restless and fidgety, i did wake up but went back to sleep after a slight repostion.
Im so rubbish with interrupted sleep what will i be like with the bean to look after!

Hello everyone, just got back from aquafit, still fun!

Hope everyone is ok. BTW am I the only one not watching OBEM? Rather watch The Tudors

Kara don't worry - I haven't been watching as if it was going to be on here it would be in about 3 years time! I would also rather watch Tudors but can only get that when it comes out on DVD!

Hi everyone,

It has been ages since my last post. I keep trying to catch up but struggling so I'm really sorry that I'm not commenting on posts.

Quick update from me. I've finished work already. Have been suffering from severe back pain and pelvic pain, diagnosed with SPD.

Also baby is measuring small for dates so that's a bit of a worry (DD was prem and low birthweight).

Trying not to dwell on it too much and making the most of my time at home (by doing very little ). DD is still in nursery until the end of March so I'm really looking forward to getting lost of rest.

Hope everyone is ok today

louey congratulations on your scan. So glad to hear all is well.

TTL what you've posted (about OBEM) pretty much sums up what I was thinking (yet you put it so much more better than I ever could ). I loved the girl whos partner was away, I thought she was fantastic.

Im sorry to hear that you've been feeling down too - you have so much on your plate though, its difficult not to get overwhelmed.

Im a wee bit like that at the minute, and had a bit of a wobble to dh this morning. I've started my new job (transfer) and love my new job but naturally, as with any new role, Im trying to make my mark somewhat and make a good impression as there are lots of changes going on at the moment and I really need to establish my place here if I want to get back to this job after maternity leave. My boss has also slightly hinted of me "doing the odd day" for him during maternity leave which he'll give me back hmm... Am finding it hard as although I shouldnt admit, I dont feel my very best when pregnant - tired and find it hard to focus. College is worrying me too, I've two assignments I should have started already and am worried about exams in May. House is an absolute mess and Im stressing about how Im going to juggle everything with an extra dc next year.

Im alot luckier than most though.

Oh! on a lovely note, my ds is officially walking its absolutely adorable to watch him and my mum is back from Oz in 2 weeks (today) and I cant wait!!!. Also, finally sold our 03 Passat and bought 2 cars that will be suitable for 3 car seats. (just 2 '99s but both in very good condition), I have a mini mpv (merc a class) and DH has a renault scenic - sooo much easier on my back for lifting ds in and out of seat as they are built for kids really and very high up etc..

Think thats my first baby purchase

Jasmine, it definately was damaging to hypnobirthing if you were to take my impression after watching!!!.

Goodvibrations hope your ok, am glad to hear you've finished up thoughh and are taking it "easy". Try make the most of the time now - you really wont feel March slip by (well Im hoping we all wont )

13 weeks of work left for me...

jasmine mine too - has done all the way through. I have assumed its to do with eating and as you start out with an empty stomach first thing, the bump is small-ish and gets bigger as your stomach gets filled up. My stomach always used to get bigger as the day went on before I got pg.

TTL I think I must be the last person to have a 20 wk scan (unless some of the oxford lot are having late ones). I'm 21wks today so mine was pretty late and I'm due right at the end of the month (29th).

kara I have not watched OBEM yet but they are recorded. DH refuses to watch any kind of birth programme so I'm saving them for a night when he's not around. Or failing that, once I start maternity leave. Mind you, as I am intending to have a c-section they are probably less scary to me than to those of you that will be having natural deliveries.

8rd and moomin sorry you are feeling it does hit me too at times. Tiredness plays a huge part in how I'm feeling.

goodvibrations you sound like you've had a really rough time but its good you are off work now and can put your feet up. Hopefully the baby will pick up growth. My DTs were prem and very small (IUGR) so I am worried about the same thing happening again. The only thing I was told to do last time to help their growth was to rest. Any chance you can keep your DD in nursery any longer?

Hello everyone! I'm just checking in as I'm afraid I've been sooo bad at reading and keeping up with everything recently. I'm not sure I can catch up now!

Has everyone had their 20 week scan now?! Congratulations for all the good news. It only seem a few days ago we were talking about 12 week scans!

I had a consultant appointment this morning and although everything seems to be going well now, they're going to keep an eye on me and I'm going to have 3 more scans as they're concerned that all the bleeding I had early on could cause some problems with the baby's growth. I'm not really concerned because at the 20 week scan he was actually on the big side, but it's very reassuring that they're being extra cautious, and great to have more pictures of him before he comes out!

Right, I'm going to try to read what's been going on and reply to people.

x-post barbie sounds like you have a lot on your plate at the moment. Pg makes most of us not feel on top of our game so you are not alone. Fab news your DS is walking and about the new cars

mummynumber2 its probably best they are being cautious and I'm that you will get to see your baby lots more times

Gosh so much to catch up on! I have a virus on my laptop so am using my old one. Unfortunately the "double u" on the keyboard is broken, so I have to choose my ords carefully, also the return key is broken so I can only type one paragraph! I'll try to keep it short! Feeling a bit better than the other day (think this is purely cos I plan to spend the day in bed tomorro! Hope you're feeling happier Moomin . Nice to see you back GV*, sorry to hear about your SPD. I suffer too, but not too severe luckily. I had a chirporactor appt today though, and because there are lots of stairs to climb in my office it has been suggested I start mat leave earlier. I'll catch up once I have access to a better computer!

No idea *hat happened there!

Could you type two v's instead? Then you don't need to vvorry about the missing vv's in your vvords?

exciting that everyone has had their scans - quite a few surprises in the pipeline. :) We had ours yesterday and are are having a boy! Still feel weirdly ambivalent towards the whole situation!

Probbably not helped by working a 12 hour day the coming home t prepare supper! DH is such a workaholic he never gets home before 10pm and then the boiler is broken (it's been over a month :( and I said I'd get it sorted if DH pays. I organised everything then he said he wasn't happy with me handling it and he would and he has done nothing! I think we really need a new one and at this point I can't afford it.)

And the in-laws are staying and have a million complicated dietar requirements - I just want to run away, put the baby on hold and be 20 again not 34!

Evening everyone.......survived a shift at work. Knackered now. Burst into tears when i got into work......why i have no idea, im just an emotional wreck at the minute. One more day then 2 days off.........
Hope everyone else is ok and not too stressed out. Where is this blossoming i read about :)

O smurfette I spent the day with an old uni friend today and we both believe ourselves still to be in our early twenties.....we are not :)

Sorry about your boiler. Ours did something funny just after Christmas, but DH cannot leave a job undone, which is mainly a blessing, although 2 of our DC's were nearly left in the bath for far too long this evening because he was trying to mend a bath toy. You can't win.

barbie you are so lucky your DS is walking! Mine is about 4 days older and showing very little interest, despite intensive coaching from DH (see above). We have agreed that we do definitely need a double pushchair when we managed without when we had the DDs 18 months apart. (DD1 walked at 9 months - precocious thing!) Have posted a link and a hint to my mum.

jasmine I've done some of that mental stamina stuff. We had to hold ice cubes and reflect on the kind of strategies we were using to keep holding them. I think it was helpful. I did pregnancy yoga once and the pain of trying not to laugh and trying not to wet myself whilst not laughing was too much. When I see you to give you the steriliser, I'll tell you my best PMSL story yet, but it is too long to write here. It involves DH (of course) and a game of Guess Who?

DH got back to work after our week away to discover that 4 day weeks are now out of favour, so that is good, I think, as long as they don't just cut his pay and expect him to carry on as usual.

O and I don't watch OBEM either merlion and kara - we don't have a TV. The DDs are scarily good at operating the iplayer though :)

x-post moomin Sorry you are feeling so rubbish. I was very low in January, but feeling lots better now. If you think it's more than hormonal mood swings tell your MW or GP. Snuggle up in bed now with a I've just found a cold pot of tea that I forgot to pour :(

ed face at motherof......no TV!!!!!!

Morning all, glad to hear everyone's been scanned and had good news. It feels like a bit of a slow news day round here lately. No more appointments now until the MW in April. 16 more weeks of work. Hardly any movement from baby (now explained away as anterior placenta, so not worried, just a little annoyed that DP can't feel her yet).

It's only really DD who's keeping the momentum going with excitement about being a big sister. And even that's slightly tinged with the knowledge that her excitement may well change very quickly once she comprehends the full picture and has to share us.

Idiot top boss at work is trying to get me to hire a mate of his as my maternity cover. No bloody chance. The guy's CV and LinkedIn profile do not fill me with confidence that he has the first idea about how to do my job. Top boss can be as nepotistic as he likes with his own team, but he's not inflicting one of his buddies on us. We've already had 2 years of incompetent people in senior roles because he picked people who he thought he'd get on with, rather than who had any experience or knoweldge of the job. I swear it's just because he doesn't like the fact our dept is entirely comprised of women!

at lisascat's stupid boss, motherofsn's ability to survive without TV (I thought, biologically, it was as necessary as oxygen, no?), and smurfette's annoying DH who won't fix the boiler and doesn't trust her to do it either! That would make me .

To be fair, though, the reason my DH don't have situations like that is because he's equally as incompetent as me. Which means our washing machine, which is in a utility room in the outhouse, has been disconnected since December . We basically buy new underwear every time we go shopping, and put off the launderette for as long as humanly possible. Then when we actually did go once, we put washing powder in all the wrong slots in the machine and four loads of it (at nearly £5 each) just went round with water in them and no soap. So we had to spend another £10 and do half of it again. We couldn't do more because we'd generously shared our washing powder with a lady who'd run out, and didn't have enough. She did lend us 20p though when we didn't have enough change ...

Our car is also 2000 miles over its limit for a service, our bathroom door has been broken for two years, the grill in our oven has never worked, a huge load of ivy has fallen off the outhouse and has been hanging there precariously for two weeks, and our DVD player is DH's Playstation 2 and is so sensitive it basically jumps on any DVD you ever try to watch.

Hmmmm ... maybe I want a husband who doesn't trust me but can actually do things

TTL...sounds like a glass of wine might be in order! I have one of those DHs too..unfortunately as well as not being able to do any kind of DIY, he is also very grumpy when things are broken and would rather moan and stew than either learn how to fix stuff or get someone in who can...ahh its like having a DC already!

Mother I look forward to hearing your PMSL story. Was down at the cafe yesterday and it was almost warm enough to sit outside...if it wasnt for the killer ducks that is.

Right, please can you lovely ladies stop my friend calling me neurotic....I am going to a spa tomorrow (yay) and mentioned that I was sad I wouldnt be able to demolish the contents of the salad bar like I normally do. She thinks I'm being completely over the top cautious. Apart from the obvious items to avoid like the blue and soft cheeses, cold meats, pates, meat pies, cold fish etc do you think it is completely safe to be eating cooked chilled salads like rice salad, pasta in mayo, coronation chicken, salad leaves etc. I have taken the view that I dont know how they are prepared, how long they have been stored and exactly what care has been taken in their prep therefore best to just walk away. In the same way that the deli counter of the supermarket is a bit of a no go area I didnt think I was being weird...but she thinks I am...but then shes never been pg. Am I being a total weirdo?

jasmine. I don't mind he can't do stuff - it's not like I can either ha ha!

On the food front, I've been waaaaay more relaxed than you. Basically no cold prawns on a buffet, no blue cheese, no pate. But I'd demolish absolutely everything else with gay abandon

Most types of food poisoning (except listeria) don't even cross the placenta, including salmonella, so my reasoning is - I don't want food poisoning when I'm not pregnant but I 'take the risk', so why not when I am, since it's only going to harm me? Plus there's way more risk in crossing the road every day, or even just leaving the house.

But that's just me - and I really think you should just do whatever you're comfortable with. Everybody's different and you should just eat what you want and ignore what you don't, I say (even if that means being totally starving )

jasmine I'm probably the last person you want advising you since I'm so blase about things like that. Manky cheese isn't a problem since I've never liked the stuff, but runny eggs I'm still eating. Like TTL I figure that, if I'm regularly eating runny eggs when not pg and running the risk of salmonella, and in 30 odd years of eating runny eggs I've never had salmonella, what are the odds that I'd suddenly find the one salmonella-infested egg in England whilst pg?

Lisa right - I'm going to chill and enjoy the salad bar then.

Very excited - just got a new delivery from Figleaves, some new maternity bras. Bit disappointed that my profile doesnt look quite like the lady in the advert who must be about a 32A when I'm 34FF but hey, at least my bazongas arent resting on my knees any more!