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May 2011 - Bring on the 2nd Trimester!

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MummyWilliams · 19/10/2010 18:01

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jbells · 14/12/2010 16:00

hey heinzy- i wouldnt worry i have no pg symptons anymore really and i didnt feel movement till between 18-20 wks in my last pg, this time ihave just started feeling them at 17 wks, my midwife didnt listen to heartbeat at 16 wks but prob was bcos DD was being a little nitemare and screaming the room down to go :( wots your EDD?

Rollercoasteryears · 14/12/2010 16:20

Hello everyone, sorry it's been a while. Just caught up on posts - not as many as usual.

Loopy v sorry to hear about your friend's DS. A friend of mine's DD was diagnosed with leukemia a few months ago and I found it really shocking.

fiji sorry to hear about your marital difficulties. I hope things get easier when your current stresses abate.

mummyw hurrah for everything still going well!

I'm currently sitting in the hospital - was supposed to have my 20 week scan today, left work in plenty of time then someone threw themselves in front of a train and everything went wrong. DH drove to come and pick me up from previous station and we drove to the hospital ASAP, but every lorry that could get on our way did - so stressful! Was only 15 mins late for appt but am still sitting here waiting to see if they can possibly fit me in today. Doesn't look promising... you can all no doubt imagine the disappointment after looking forward to this date for the last month. Gutted.

Rollercoasteryears · 14/12/2010 18:10

Update - no scan today Sad. Rescheduled for next Tuesday at 12pm, so a whole week to wait...

stripeybumpsmum · 14/12/2010 18:24

Hi all,

Really nice to hear you first timers enthusing about what stuff to buy. Enjoy it, I am not going to pop your bubble with unasked for recommendations - go for what you like! As an ancient third timer, this little one will be in cast offs from the start (but then we do have 5 pushchairs, 2 slings, 4 highchairs etc to choose from).

A bit stressful of late. DD rushed in to hospital as an emergency on Saturday morning. As DS and I are only just over flu we're not allowed on the ward so Dad got to enjoy a couple of sleepless nights there. She came home last night, in for tests today but hopefully ok.

DS is off school with bad cold and a severe case of whine-itis. He does not make a good patient!

Loopy: sorry to hear about your friend. It is just rubbish. Sorry everyone for hijack, but advice for Loopy as requested (some tips work for life with new born too).Few tips I would offer are:

  1. Information is power. To start with, you feel like you have so little control of what is happening, and everything is new. The hospital should give your friend an information pack but you can also get really good information from: CHildren's Cancer and Leukaemia group.

We've found our support worker with Clic Sargeant really useful - your friend's hospital should have one: Clic

There is loads of info on the internet, much of which is frankly crap because only 'BIG' news or those withtoo mucha lot of time get on. Avoid generic searches and look up specific things like side effects of drugs on Macmillan.

  1. I would recommend that you /other relatives have a read of some of the info so that you can support and sympathise with your friend without her having to translate everything. Very quickly she will have to get used to phrases like Hickman lines (also called wigglies), neutropenic etc - it is really hard work sometimes having to explain what this means to people when you really just want a bit of shorthand support (text messages are invaluable). Ask your friend if she would like you to set up a telephone tree - so if she gives you info, you agree to pass it on to a couple of people to save her repeating the same thing.
  1. Practical help (works for life with newborn too). Lots of people will offer help, but if you had time to think specifically what help would be useful, you may well just have done it yourself! The most useful things for us were friends turning up with or leaving stuff on the door step: bottle of wine, crappy magazines, loaf of bread and bottle of milk, casseroles, loads of fruit, nice toilettries. Little, practical things help too: e.g. offer to take/collect other kids from school. Collect her ironing. Text her every now and then if you are passing to just ask if she needs stuff. If she is at home, take the coffee/meal to her - if people come to see her/child, they need to make their own drink rather than her 'entertain' them. ( first time mums take note visitors make drinks for you and themselves, or even better turn up with dinner. Simple exchange: food and drinks buy cuddles).
  1. Visit your friend in hospital, both to see her and for you to watch over the child for a while. It will be good for her and her child to spend a bit of time apart, and means she gets to do simple things like have a shower/ go for a coffee by herself.

Likewise, it is helpful to have someone who is willing to help out with other kids, but you have to be subtle about it: ask if her kids would like to go on a trip you are planning so they are invited rather than offloaded. Make something up if you have to: a new DVD that you especially want to watch with them etc. Avoid buying a present only for the ill child - they will no doubt benefit from a hospital playroom stocked to the roof anyway. Difficult for the other kids not to feel sidelined if the ill child is constantly getting presents. If you do want to buy something for the ill child, I would recommend a small comic or sticker book, cheap DVDs - stuff that can be done in bed - and a small present for the other kids (which they will share anyway so everyone wins).

  1. Encourage other kids to visit the ill child and parent in hospital. It takes away a lot of the fear the well child has (because they get to see the hospital routine with blood tests, temperature checks et) but also shows that ill child might have mum with them all the time, but actually, life at hospital is pretty dull and not a treat. The hospital may have a play specialist that can work with both the ill child and siblings.
  1. If you can look after the ill child for a bit, at home or hospital, it means mum and dad can spend some time with the other kids that are missing out. If you can help out with the toddler, that works too as they aren't really going to miss out like a 6 year old would. (Works for those having baby number 2: please encourage your friends/family to help out with baby so you can spend time with toddler rather than the other way around).

Lastly, a very personal one for me but one I know a couple of the other parents on the ward feel too: I know it is well intended, but repeatedly saying 'I don't know how you are coping' isn't really that helpful as it implies you have a choice: not coping is simply not an option, you just have to get through it and plough on. Wailing about the unfairness of it just doesn't come into it: those kind of emotions are, tbh, a luxury you don't have time for when you need to support the child fighting to get better. There will be times when things just get too tough and your friend will be really down, and there will definitely be times when things are improving that she/they will just collapse because adrenaline keeps you going. Better to remind her she is doing a great job holding it together, and give her a bit of space to flop when she needs to.

Hope that helps.

Have a great few days everyone.

SBM

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cowboylover · 14/12/2010 20:11

Stripey, great works there and thanks for sharing. You put into works what I tried to say many times when caring for dad.

Bonkerz ect thanks so much for sharing your weight loss as well as I was starting to feel like a freak and should I be worried ect

Rollercoaster that must be disappointing for you, damm traffic nightmares always happen when you got to get to something good! Yours is the same day as mine now.

I am getting super excited for finding out what we are having but trying to keep a lid on it incase they cant see. When someone asks I say blue but its always pink in my dreams so exciting Xmas Smile

I have been feeling movements for a while but think I got a 'proper' kick in the ribs yesterday so looking forward to DH feeling it as well as he keeps trying to

fijibaby · 15/12/2010 03:59

Well we're packed and the movers have left so there is nothing else to do. I had dreams of a fantastic noodle dish for tea but with nothing to cook it in it ain't gonna happen... Duh!! Xmas Blush

Already thinking about the couple of pairs of trousers, which while not vital today would have been useful 6 weeks from now... but they're packed too so I'll just have to go shopping!

In yesterday's self obsessed blither I didn't name check properly...

MummyW carpal tunnel is blinkin' awful and splints whilst providing some relief, don't half get in the way. Hope they're not too annoying.

Yay for sesame! Well done on the ebay shopping. Very clever!

To anyone I've missed, apologies, I'm not sure if I can promise better work in the future but I can try! Xmas Smile
xxx

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Heinzy · 15/12/2010 14:53

jbells thanks so much for your response it is, i saw the midwife today and as i was so concerned she listened for the babies heartbeat and it was very clear and strong so I am immensely relieved Smile

My EDD is the 21 May, I'm almost half way!

Today i asked my midwife about what i thought were 'veins' on my breasts Shock... it turns out they are horrible stretch marks... bio oil has not been working as well as I hoped.

Fijibaby I feel for you going through tough times with your partner, my husband and I are having some challenges coming to terms with new responsibilities and changes in our social lives with a baby on the way. I hope it all works itself out for you.

Xmas Smile
Bonkerz · 15/12/2010 17:52

hoorah, last day at work tomorrow for 3 weeks then officially only have 24 shifts (120 hours) left till maternity leave!
Went back to work monday after a week off, Boss has been great and have spent the week sitting as much as possible and directing lol SPD has stepped up a gear and i cannot stand for longer than 5 minutes now with out going all clammy from the acheing pain despite being on co-codamol!
Jellybaby is moving proper and the other night managed to ripple the remote control off my tummy which was quite funny! heartbeat can now be found almost immmediately with the doppler just a little higher than the belly button which is quite good for 18+3 !
Coughing still a nightmare and morning sickness is back with avengence. Weightloss still not good so im trying to consume as many ready salted crisps as i possibly can and to drink lucozade and isotonic drinks and water to get me through.
TMI ALERT: have noticed my urine is VERY dark orange almost brown, infact when i first looked the other day i thought it was bloody but its just very dark which i think is a sign of dehydration which would make sense due to sickness etc but i cant drink more than i already am! Would feel silly going to docs or midwife again seeing as i have lived with them virtually for the last month lol has anyone else noticed this?

technically because we know we are having a section around 8th may i am now half way through this pregnancy! thank god cos i am SO over it right now!

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Bonkerz · 15/12/2010 18:17

I had SPD in my last pregnancy 5 years ago and it started around 19 weeks but didnt really cause an issue till about 26 weeks when i got a support bandage that went from tummy to thigh and that helped alot. I knew it would start earlier this time BUT the coughing has meant its got quite bad earlier than expected! GP and Midwife cant refer to physio so have to wait till i have consultant on new years eve but GP reckons i will be on crutches by new year! not so great when you work in a nursery looking after children! LOL

QwertyQueen · 15/12/2010 20:33

HI all
it's been a while since I was on, hope you are all well.
Had a scan today which was great, saw her moving about and all measurements are looking good.
Felt a bit of a kick yesterday too :)
17 weeks tomorrow....

DontWorryBaby · 15/12/2010 20:34

Bonkerz Try some dioralyte rehydration sachets. Not sure if you need a prescription or not but they're recommended if you have sickness/diarrhoea to help keep you hydrated.

cowboylover · 15/12/2010 22:11

Only just got in from work and being selfishly knackered and going to bed now after a quick check in.

Bonkerz: I recommend the dioralyte now known in our house a magic drinks are they are the only thing that make me feel human when im sick and with and upset tummy which is still pretty regular. Doc said a film on your tounge and dry looking eyes are signs to look out for also. I hope you feel better soon.

kiwigirlinlondon · 15/12/2010 22:25

Bonkers and dontworrybaby the Nhs direct helpline told me not to take those rehydration sachets during pregnancy. (I had the winter vomiting virus on mon/tues and rang to find out what I could take as I was so bad I was worried about being dehydrated and it affecting the baby). But they may have just been being cautious

I know that it's probably different but being dehydrated really made my ligament pain worse so not sure if it's the same with SPD. It sounds horrible so you totally have my sympathy

I have my 'pain in pregnancy' class tomorrow to help deal with the ligament pain - although mine has gone for now but having waited for months for some kind of treatment I'm definitely going! Then the day after I have my 20 week scan. I'm paranoid they will find something wrong so can't wait to have it and hopefully be able to relax a bit. After reading your post rollercoasteryears I will be leaving extra early for it! Thank goodness they managed to get you an appointment next week - otherwise you could have been waiting til next year!

Sorry not to namecheck more but am too tired from stupid stomach flu

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jbells · 16/12/2010 08:37

ahhh loopy congrats glad the scan went well, cant believe people are already at the half way mark seems to have gone sooo fast

sorry people are having so much sickness pain :( makes me appreciate my so far 2 easyish pg i also suffered badly from carpel tunnel last time really hoping i dont get it agen

heinzy- glad u feel more reassured now that everythings ok and your midwife apt went well

Cant believe its nine days till xmas still got sooo much today im normally completely sorted by now just cant seem to find the motivation this year :(

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Vassia · 16/12/2010 10:10

Bonkerz - what you drink can also have an effect on the colour of your urine. I would say drinking a lot of lucozade (especially the orange one) would tend to colour your urine more orange. Just popped into my head, that might be why your urine is so dark (along with possible dehydration!)

kiwigirlinlondon · 16/12/2010 14:28

Also vitamins have an effect - berocca turns mine dark yellow

cowboylover · 16/12/2010 22:10

My doc gave me the dhyrolyte things but did say it was only as I was sick for so long so worth checking.

Baby wigglesworth today learned to dig me in the ribs but with dreadful timing as I was dragging my tired ass around Cardiff trying to get the Christmas prezzies in one go, spent wayyy to much money and then they didnt take the security tag of DH's new jacket so now need to try and get back down there before Crimbo or explain on the day I didnt steal it to him and go down after..

Pistachio thats mad that at this early stage they can vary in size but I suppose they do so much at birth so must start somewhere.

Kirk1 · 17/12/2010 10:01

Morning Ladies, am I too late to join? Baby no 3 due on May 7th and I'm still in shock since my other two are 10 and 7 and I thought I'd done with babies....

Makes it worse when your 10-year old DD gives you that look and asks "did you forget your pills mum?"

anomoly scan on Tuesday, it's a bit late but that was the earliest they could fit me in this close to christmas.

fijibaby · 17/12/2010 10:02

My computer/internet must be stuffing up... just received and email sent on Monday and have re-read recent posts and realised that several people posted just before me and they didn't show before I posted mine, didn't mean to look insensitive...

SBM thank you for the advice, really useful stuff with great suggestions for helping out.

Loopy how wonderful to have a good scan... still a girl?!!

Bonkerz good luck with the rehydrating, I'm not sure about urine changes but I'm really aware of 'body smells' I can't work out if I smell different since being pregnant or if my spidey senses just make me more aware?

Cowboylover wigglesorth is making it up to your ribs already?? What an active little bean!

Heinzy thinkgs are panning out here, DH is still completely focussed on the office, got home at 1am this morning... (either it's work or he's having an affair!) but we leave for NZ in 2 sleeps time! Hope you and your husband make it through unscathed.

Who said it was only x days until Christmas? Xmas Shock Thankfully my family are firmly against Christmas pressies and DH's take it in turns to choose a charity to make donations to. This year we are contributing towards a park bench in memory of DH's mum who died last year. Xmas Smile

fijibaby · 17/12/2010 10:04

Welcome Kirk1, guess that must have come as quite a surprise and not helped by knowing looks from DD!

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