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July 2010: The end is nigh... To antenatal we say goodbye!

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stac14 · 28/07/2010 20:20

We're all nearly at the end so here is our last antenatal thread

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Gracie123 · 07/08/2010 09:45

tsc I'm not sure night sweats are very normal, unless it's very hot where you are. I'd see the GP personally.

I'm freezing at night and hate getting my boob out in the cold, but we haven't figured out how to use the heating yet, or even where the thermostat is!!

Elle does pretty well at night (or so I thought) going from 10.45pm til 6.45am, but this morning I woke up to find her in our bed! Turns out DH has been getting up with her and settling her and I've slept through for the last few days! He says it's no problem as she isn't really hungry, just wind, but I feel bad that I slept through it. Especially as he gets up and gives DS breakfast whilst I lie in bed feeding her til 8am every day!

Sorry for those of you whose partners aren't pulling their weight. Maybe try asking them a bit more? Just tell them you are exhausted and have a little cry. IMO men can't stand seeing their partner crying about anything Grin

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Chulita · 07/08/2010 10:58

tsc I've got night sweats too, sleep with the fan on every night but still wake up dripping. Had it with DD too but just can't remember how long it lasted...

DH is sleeping downstairs at the mo cos he's really busy at work and with Sam being awake all night there's no point us both being up!

stac14 · 07/08/2010 12:15

I thought the night sweats were due to hormone changes as i am getting them too. I havent slept under a duvet from before rileigh was born. X

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kkfairybrains · 07/08/2010 13:31

sorry the partners aren't being much help ladies. makes everything so much harder.this is one of the reasons i didnt breastfeed as everything falls on your shoulders.
stac glad you felt ok being away from riliegh!there'll be no stopping you now!
mlic you seem really pissed off are you ok? god im tired and im getting ok sleep cant begin to imagine how tired and irritable you are. its bloody tough going.
well ellie didnt go the night last night. mainly because she puked up her 7 o clock feed and got another at 9 so that sent her off til 2 30 then 7 30. then she's after bringing up her whole last feed. i really dont know what to do. i had her on the gaviscon and she wasnt puking as much but the pack was finished the night before last so we said we'd leave her without it and see how she gets on but now she's back to the same at least once a day. i know babies puke but its not normal the amount she brings up.she cant be getting any nourishment from the food. so do i bring her to the doctor? which costs 50 fecking euro Angry or do we go with dp's suggestion of changing her formula to sma staydown?
i've just given her water but water wont give her nourishment

memphis83 · 07/08/2010 13:50

tsc night sweats are apparently due to hormones balancing back to normal levels, i never sweat ever, even when i pluck up courage to go to the gym, but i wake up covered in sweat and have had a sexy sweat rash betwwen my boobs for weeks!!
we went out for a meal last night, Lyndon played up before we left so i didnt want to go out, trying to get ready and sort him stressed me out, then when we got back he hadnt woke up the whole time but then wanted to play for next 2 hours! was driving and my brakes failed!!! so without a car while they get sorted luckily i dont drive like a boy racer anymore more like a granny since i became a mum so i just slowed to a halt!

Gracie123 · 07/08/2010 17:18

Arggghh! Need to vent!!!!
FiL had come over and brought new gf who is a Dr who seems to know everything about babies and I am doing everything wrong apparently.

I'm sure she's very nice under normal circumstances but I'm shattered and too tired to deal with this. It's doing my head in!

So glad DH told them they couldn't stay over tonight, (couldn't face a whole weekend of this) but I have no idea what time they are staying until. I just want her to go home so I can have my babies back and go to bed!!!

viksam · 07/08/2010 17:25

Hi everyone,
Thanks again for all ur lovely advice, i am sticking to my guns and my boobs already feel better, im expressing when i feel i need to and getting a suprising amount out. Can i add to already stored breast milk? I think u can but not sure of the period of time. So Im really going to have to get my head round my steraliser, its a microwave one for four bottles and it says that once u tke a bottle out u have to resteralise the whole lot again???Can this be right. Also, is anyone making up more than one bottle of formula at a time? If so how are u going about heating it up as the guide lines say not to heat up powdered formula any more, so what about night times?? Oohhhh its such a mind field, its so much easier to whip out a boob.......if it wasnt covered in scabs and open cracks!!!!!!

viksam · 07/08/2010 17:42

gracie what is she saying ur doing wrong, cheaky woman, how dare she. U carry on doing just what ur doing im sure its fine.
tsc what happened this morning about ur shower in the end?
KK 50 euro, thats terrible, where are u again? Its probably a good idea to change the formula and give it a few days if u feel comfortable with that.
memphis Jez could anything else go wrong?? that sucks about the car.

I sorry im so needy in my latest posts, i have found the feeding thing the biggest challenge of my life so far i think. Undoubtedly i have blown it out of preportion but it has felt really important to me. Went for a lovely walk in the park just me, Devon and Tolly(my sausage dog!) and i feel quite good today, just having a rest before he wakes up which will be soon now. Anyone doing anything nice tomorrow?

Gracie123 · 07/08/2010 18:00

Apparently I'm a terrible mother for not co sleeping, my latch is all wrong, a baby this size must be topped up with formula, shouldn't be using lotion as olive oil is fine, DS is overstimulated... The list goes on...

DesperateHousewife21 · 07/08/2010 18:12

If I express my milk for DP to feed with in the mornings and stick it in the fridge, does it need to be warmed up and if so how do I go about doing that?

Also during the day he very rarely sleeps longer than half an hour and if I try to put him down he wakes up, this cant be right can it?

Spirael · 07/08/2010 19:46

You can mix breast milk expressed at different times together, viksam. But it ideally needs to be at the same temperature at the time of mixing - i.e. both batches chilled in the fridge before mixing or both warmed to room temperature.

When you mix, the age of the entire batch becomes the date of the oldest milk for purposes of when to use it by.

I found this page on kellymom.com pretty helpful. :)

I always resterilise the stuff in my microwave steriliser every time I take something out. But in my case I normally take out the stuff to pump and my DH grabs the stuff to make up a bottle from the expressed milk in the fridge, so we end up using pretty much everything at once.

I have the Avent bottle warmer, DesperateHousewife, so warm the expressed milk in that. But you could just run the bottle under the hot tap or sit it in a bowl of hot water for a bit. :)

DH and I got the bottle warmer mostly because we don't trust ourselves to get the temperature right, especially in the early hours of the morning. Confused We do always test the bottles still before giving them, to make sure they're not boiling hot or anything.

Those who are expressing, how much are you getting each time? Assuming I've had around 3 hours to 'refill', I get 4-5 fl oz. But I get noticeably more on one side than the other... Hmm Is this normal? I feed pretty evenly.

kkfairybrains · 07/08/2010 19:49

i make up the all the bottles with just the water (boiling) vik and put the right amount of powder into them little powder dispenser tubs and add the powder to the bottle when i need it. my health nurse and the the nurse in the hospital told me this way was fine and i got a booklet that said this way was fine if yoiu need to make them up in advance. also i've never heated the bottles (i dont keep them in the fridge,just a clean place) i just give them at room temperature. she never got used to heated bottles as they were room temp in the hospital too. def try and get out for a walk every day if it makes you feel better. and im in ireland and thats how much it is to see gp plus your prescription!
i think i'll wait until monday morn and ring the health nurse and ask her about changing the formula.

Chulita · 07/08/2010 19:57

spirael with DD I'd get 9oz out of one boob and no more than 6 in the other - oddly enough the bigger boob gave less milk Hmm. At the mo I can get about 2-3 oz but Sam's only 2 weeks old so I wouldn't expect more than that.

dh sounds exactly like Sam. I've spent all day holding him cos he wakes up crying when I put him down. DD's finding it hard cos I'm not giving her much attention/ I hate it, I really feel like I'm neglecting her...first 8 weeks are the hardest though and we're 2 weeks in :)

gracie tell her to wind her neck in...what an annoying woman!!

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memphis83 · 08/08/2010 10:28

congrats emsie how was the birth?
gracie im surprised you didnt drop kick her out of the house!!!! my hv and mw said no baby products eg oil, shampoo, lotion should be used for a month and should only use olive oil, but stuff her i like my baby smelling like a baby not like how i imagine the dolmio puppets smell of!! if olive oil should be used why hasnt johnsons started selling it?! Grin, they all talk about the same shit, they get given guidelines that they spout on about!
vik i do the same as kk with the boiled water they you add the water to bottles and they are clean for 24 hours so you dont have to keep steralising all day.
driving mum to the airport later shes going to newquay to see my bro, my whole family but me are going, been thinking about going myself in car as dh is away for start of week but think journey would be too much on my own with baby! will miss my monday with my mum! and apart from that were going for a walk later so having a lazy day as the sun is shining, hope you all have a great day!

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DesperateHousewife21 · 08/08/2010 11:51

God last night was horrendous, Dylan literally didnt sleep at all, kept having to hold him as he was really grunting but wasnt interested in feeding so nothing would send him to sleep it was torture cos all I wanted to do was sleep.

So after a night like that he was over tired this morning and screamed and I had to hold him til he fell asleep but again wouldnt let me put him down.

God I want the next 2-4 weeks to go VERY quickly.

Thanks for the advice re warming up milk, DPs sister has a bottle warmer we can have so will prob do it that way.

Gracie123 · 08/08/2010 17:01

Thing is, I'm a holistic therapist and the first person to suggest natural products over chemicals. The 'lotion' she was complaining about was my own blend of 100% pure cocoa butter with a little jojoba oil so that it wasn't too thick! (cocoa smelling baby is sooooo much nicer than dolmio baby!) Grin

Anyway, hopefully won't have to see her again for a while, although I suppose that depends how serious FiL is about her. I think DH might have offended a bit when he said they could only sleep over in separate rooms (we have two spare rooms by the way - so it wasn't that unreasonable...) as they then decided not to stay over. I do feel bad, because obviously we are aware that they sleep together at their house, but don't want to have these conversations with DS yet, especially as FiL has had girlfriends in the past and they have all been fairly short term.

I'm already worried about how MiL is going to take it when she gets back from holiday having never met her DGD to find pictures of this other woman snuggling and kissing her all over facebook. Funny thing is she pretty much ignored DS and didn't seem very maternal at all, but FiL kept handing Elle to her and setting up photos all afternoon, so it looks like she spent hours cooing and cuddling. Confused

Just hoping this doesn't turn into another family feud with DH in the middle Sad

memphis83 · 08/08/2010 17:07

tsc i dont bf but if you dring dont you hsvr to pump enough milk for the majority of the next day as well so you dont pass on the booze to your LO?
oh dh hope it gets better soon, does dp not help when he just wants holding?
well after dropping my mum at airport she rang me and she has booked me into a hotel in truro for a couple of nights so im venturing down in the morning, was excited but how daunting 300 mile journey on my own with a month old baby! lots of coffee stops along the way i think, my BIL has sorted brakes on the car and gone over whole thing so were ready to go, packed so many outfits, muslins, vests etc its scary but i dont want to be stuck with buying them down there!!

stac14 · 08/08/2010 20:12

emsie congrats hun, hope your sticking with us

gracie what a cow she is, hope your dh doesn't get dragged into a situation

tsc you feeling any better?

memphis i'm sure you'll be fine, how long will the journey take? Lo will probs sleep most of it, if you make a few rest stops you'll be sorted.

dh has mw or hv offered any suggestions regarding dylans sleep patterns?

mlic rileigh does that and is up more often yet other nights she is great, hope you have a better night tonight

Well Rileigh has been sick quite often again so not sure whats happening as she has been pooing a fair bit too. So will see how she goes. Have hv on tuesday so she may have some suggestions about lo being sick. Also had a fight with dp regarding lo, he seems to think that as he helps with housework he doesnt have to do stuff with rileigh. So i let rip, hoping it makes a difference. I can't wait to saturday its my birthday and a crowd of us are going out so looking forward to being myself for a few hours. Hope that doesnt sound bad, i love my kids to bits but it'l be great to have a night off. Do you know what i mean? X

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DesperateHousewife21 · 08/08/2010 20:38

memphis yeah he does but he still cries and then DP thinks he doesnt like him! Obv he does he just falls asleep easier on me cos Ive got the goods!

stac I havent spoken to anyone about it really, I still keep telling myself it'll get better as he gets older.

Hes now going through a phase of really crying hard when hes tired and nothing seems to settle him so he stays awake and eventually becomes over tired and just screams.

We even tried a dummy earlier but he didnt like it and would much prefer to be on the boob. Im so tired and I feel like I cant ever put him down he just wants to be held or be on the boob.

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