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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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thegrowlygus · 28/04/2008 20:43

CP - I haven't watched coronation street in years and years and am watching now. So far unimpressed but that may well be because me and DH just keep saying "who's that?" to each other (DH has never watched corrie so is even more at a loss than me!)

thegrowlygus · 28/04/2008 20:49

HEY! I recognise someone in Corrie! Tis Lister from Red Dwarf!

This is just awful - incredibly unrealistic.

frasersmummy · 28/04/2008 21:13

I havent watched the street in years... but felt strangely compelled to watch tonight

I was hoping that it would be a powerful episode that would get people talking and raise awareness of still births

but it was complete and utter rubbish.. there was no emotion .. nothing. I think the writers ought to be hung. They obviously didnt even speak to someone who has been through this

dippymother · 28/04/2008 22:46

FMN - yes Essex!

Also watched Corrie (confess I watch it anyway) and thought it was very unrealistic, however will watch Wednesday and Friday to see if it gets better.

lottiejenkins · 29/04/2008 09:36

Morning everyone........ Have got a day off today!! Total surprise too... Hope everyone is ok this morning. I went out last night and stayed out a whole lot longer(and more cider) than i intended!!!

feedmenow · 29/04/2008 09:58

Lottie, my mate drinks cider and calls it Tramp Juice! Sounds like you had a good evening?

Watched Corrie. Found it very strange, I suppose cos it is all quite fresh for me. The bit where the midwife couldn't find a heart beat with the monitor particulalrly. But as for the rest, what crap. I can't believe that she wouldn't tell him! Seriously, can ANYONE identify with that at all?

GG, I don't usually watch Corrie but whenever I see bits of it I can only ever think of him as Lister! Can't possibly take him seriously when I get the flashbacks to Red Dwarf!

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lottiejenkins · 29/04/2008 12:03

FMN yes i did, im very lucky that i have nearly all my late dh's friends and by association their friends who i can go out with. It was meant to be Alison and I going out for a "quiet" girly drink...... it ended up with late dh's mate Mike his mate Roger whos lovely and Rogers daughter Kate with us, instead of getting home at 8pm as planned we wobbled home at 9.30. Ali's 16 yr old answered the phone when i rang to make sure she was ok and said "I think you got Mum drunk" I replied that I had help from M and R !!! In my defence it was a very strong local cider and Ali was drinking on an empty stomach!!!

feedmenow · 29/04/2008 12:19

I find it hilarious when kid's assume the role of 'parent'! "I think you got Mum drunk"!!!!!

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lottiejenkins · 29/04/2008 14:44

Alisons daughter is a lovely girl.She is the only Wilfsitter that he is happy with!!

LouiseAnn · 29/04/2008 16:52

Hello to everyone.

Can I ask what you do when you have birthdays of the ones you have lost? We lost James nine months ago, and his birthday is next week - he would have been 12. I don't want to make a big deal of it. We don't go the cemetery very often, so we may just go there and do some tidying up. Alex made a flag a few weeks ago, I might get him to make something else. The grave is getting a bit full of plants we and his grandparents have put in.

frasersmummy · 29/04/2008 21:00

Oh LouiseAnn its terrible trying to decide what to do for your little boy's birthday isnt it.

We like to release balloons on Fraser's b/day. I find it nice because I think Fraser must catch them once they go above the clouds. I also feel that as I let them go that I am letting go of another tiny bit of grief.

This might be more a thing you do for a baby than for a 12 year old boy...I'm sorry maybe some of the other mummies on here can suggest something more age appropriate

Whatever you do on the day remember to be kind to yourself and allow yourself to grieve

shabster · 29/04/2008 21:27

Wont be long - cant get near the computer tonight cause my DS is playing on 'club penguin!!'

Be back soon. Evening my lovely friends

triplets · 29/04/2008 22:31

Hi,
My lovely Matthew was almost 15 when he died, the first 4 years we really struggled on his birthday and I often regretted not doing something special on the day, always went to the cemetery with flowers. Now we have the trio we try and go out for the day to places that Matthew loved, the bird park or the zoo etc, Matthew will be 29 this year, seems unbelievable, miss him every minute of every day xx

shabster · 29/04/2008 23:31

Oh girls - the only good thing to come out of my Matthews death was meeting Triplets through Compassionate Friends.

Hard to believe that both our Matthews would be grown adult men now. My Matt would be 24 in June. Sorry - My Matt IS 24 in June.

Good night my new friends. Goodnight to all our loved children

lottiejenkins · 30/04/2008 13:54

Afternoon everyone. I'm off to Jacks grave tomorrow to have his cross taken up and mended. I dont get to go as often as id like as i dont drive but my Mum goes when she does her aunts grave and puts flowers on every fortnight. Jacks dad was a carpenter and he made a lovely cross but since he died (dh) seven years ago ive had to have others repair the cross. Its needing some tlc again so I have arranged for a friends bf's brother who i know, to drive me over tomorrow and hes going to do the work(he's a carpenter)
I didnt feel i could explain over the phone in case i broke down so my lovely friend explained and he rang up last night and we arranged everything. He was so nice. He is going to repair the cross and varnish it and put it back for me.

shabster · 30/04/2008 16:43

lottie - you will feel better when Jacks cross is repaired. We have a headstone with two photos of the boys on. We sent two ordinary pictures to Italy where they, somehow, put them onto stone. They are kind of egg shaped and come out from the gravestone a little bit. Long before you get to their plot you can see the smiley faces.

oh lottie - please accept the hug I am sending - your losses are so sad. I've been typing this post for about 10 minutes trying to find the right words and I hope that I have found them

Eris will be smiling and telling all her new friends 'look at our mums, they are putting on their smiles and pretending everythings fine - I am so proud of them all.'

feedmenow · 30/04/2008 17:04

LousieAnn, I can't help on the birthday thing, but I already dread it! I think I've said before but Eris shares her birthday with my friends dd who turned 1 the day Eris was born, and with my fil! It was a very sad birthday for him this year But I know one thing, I don't want her birthday to be a sad thing so I'm going to make sure we do happy, smiley things each year and that we raise a toast to her along with my fil.

Lottie, I'm so glad you have found someone to mend Jacks cross. It would be even more sad if your dh's craftsmenship for your ds had gone to waste.

Shabs, your grandson is due in June isn't he? Maybe he'll be born on Matt's birthday.....

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lottiejenkins · 30/04/2008 17:12

Thanks for the hug Shabs, what i must remember to do is to go and knock on my Grandmas door in case she tootles round to Grandads grave and sees the cross missing! She's an amazing lady my Grandma shes 95 and still driving a BMW. I hope i have inherited her genes!

shabster · 30/04/2008 17:25

FMN - Hiya honey. Yes Lewis is due in June. Mattys birthday was the 30th which would make Lewis 20 days late!! Hope for my DS and DSP that he's not that late.

We are having a party in Faliraki for Matty's 24th birthday. I agree with celebrating birthdays very much.

Hey FMN I haven't snogged your DP for ages!! Go on, as soon as you see him - tell him the leprechaun with the ginger beard sends a song!!

shabster · 30/04/2008 17:26

Ha Ha I meant 'sends a SNOG' - bet he was relieved when you said song

lottiejenkins · 30/04/2008 20:20

Ive just had a nice thing happen,,,,,,,, a mum from the school where i work has a friend who's son is doing a bronze doe award in social care and Sharon(the mum) has suggested that he could work with Wilfred as part of his Social Care!! Fingers crossed it all works out!!!

chegirl · 30/04/2008 20:55

Hello all,

I am finding the format of Mumsnet a teeny bit confusing so I hope you bear with me till I am used to it.

I hope you are all well. i am amazed that I am feeling so OK at the moment and hope I dont crash!

Have you guys already introduced your children? Did I miss it? I would love to hear more about them.

I had to go to a funeral on Tuesday of a very very special young man. He was only 13, he was a total star, bless him. I feel so much for his mum and dad.
Its lovely to meet you all and thanks for the warm welcome and for visiting my Billie's site. x

lottiejenkins · 01/05/2008 08:22

Morning ladies...... well i had no electric at 7am this morning............ grrrr Mr Neighbour isolated it to the boiler and Mr Heating Engineer is coming on his way home from work, i explained where i was going this afternoon and he understood. His Nan is buried in the same churchyard on the other side of the church from Jack. I'd like to think that Jack's special angel was helping him to get my problem solved!!

shabster · 01/05/2008 08:26

Morning lottie - definitly help from Jack

I have got Toms lunchbox ready, uniform all laid out.....Just remembered his school is being used for the local elections today!!!

I have been up since 6.30am -

Say hello to Jack for me please xx

lottiejenkins · 01/05/2008 08:47

Whoops! Lucky Tom having a day off!!! Am hoping that the boiler thingy isnt going to be tooooooooo expensive![shock} Mr boiler man is lovely, so is Mr neighbour who got snarled at by me when i was panicing at 7am. He was hmming and haaaaaaaaing and saying"hm this is funny" i growled back "nooooooo its not funny"

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